When Chancy strums the strings of his custom Frankenstein-style guitar, it's like unlocking a treasure trove of stories and emotions woven into each note. In this episode of Music Junkies, prepare for a captivating symphony of heartfelt narratives as our guest, a passionate music and movie aficionado, paints a vivid picture of his life's soundtrack. From quirky playlist challenges to the electrifying energy of American Head Charge's live performances, we embark on a journey through the auditory and emotional landscapes that music evokes in us all.
Picture yourself belting out tunes on a road trip, the melody intertwining with memories of family ties and personal triumphs. Chancy invites us into his world, sharing everything from the spontaneous joy of car karaoke sessions to profound reflections on navigating life with alcoholic parents. It's a rollercoaster ride of whimsy and introspection as we navigate through the challenges of high school, the transformative power of psychedelics, and the comforting embrace of songs like Placebo's "Drag."
As our auditory adventure reaches its crescendo, we're treated to a deep dive into the artistic brilliance of Type O Negative's "Bloody Kisses," a track that resonates with music lovers far and wide. But Chancy's tales go beyond the music itself, delving into the intricacies of life's twists and turns, fueled by an insatiable curiosity. Whether you're a seasoned music aficionado or simply seeking solace in a familiar melody, this episode promises to ignite your soul and your imagination, reminding us all of the transformative power of music and shared experiences.
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When Chancy strums the strings of his custom Frankenstein-style guitar, it's like unlocking a treasure trove of stories and emotions woven into each note. In this episode of Music Junkies, prepare for a captivating symphony of heartfelt narratives as our guest, a passionate music and movie aficionado, paints a vivid picture of his life's soundtrack. From quirky playlist challenges to the electrifying energy of American Head Charge's live performances, we embark on a journey through the auditory and emotional landscapes that music evokes in us all.
Picture yourself belting out tunes on a road trip, the melody intertwining with memories of family ties and personal triumphs. Chancy invites us into his world, sharing everything from the spontaneous joy of car karaoke sessions to profound reflections on navigating life with alcoholic parents. It's a rollercoaster ride of whimsy and introspection as we navigate through the challenges of high school, the transformative power of psychedelics, and the comforting embrace of songs like Placebo's "Drag."
As our auditory adventure reaches its crescendo, we're treated to a deep dive into the artistic brilliance of Type O Negative's "Bloody Kisses," a track that resonates with music lovers far and wide. But Chancy's tales go beyond the music itself, delving into the intricacies of life's twists and turns, fueled by an insatiable curiosity. Whether you're a seasoned music aficionado or simply seeking solace in a familiar melody, this episode promises to ignite your soul and your imagination, reminding us all of the transformative power of music and shared experiences.
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Welcome everyone to Music Junkies, a podcast about people sharing extraordinary stories about how music has impacted their lives. Welcome everyone to Music Junkies. I'm your host, annette Smith, and our guest today. He says he is like a music and movie enthusiast. He enjoys deep thoughts. So I'm pretty interested in knowing what the heck that means. Right, deep thought, deep thought into what Could be, deep thought into mystical trees I have no idea. So I love that. You like deep thought and thoughts through experiments, so again, that could be a wide range of stuff.
Speaker 1:We have no idea how depth this podcast is going to be today, but please welcome Chancey to the show. I'm excited, like obviously we need a clap bar right, which would be really, really cool. And yeah, jeremy said you're a great guy, so I'm excited to see how great you are and how depth we can get into conversation for sure. So I know that we chatted a little bit and you put a playlist together and it was getting out of control, but talk to me a little bit about what your experience was putting your playlist together for me today.
Speaker 2:Well, I have to give the obligatory Hi Every show every time I go.
Speaker 2:I got to do it so honestly, like when I, when I got started putting it together, it was kind of like, okay, I got to think of songs that may or may not have like stories behind them.
Speaker 2:So then it's like, oh, okay, well, and then I got to thinking about it, like you know, I was like, well, I did stop like attributing songs to situations and people because it just ended up ruining so many great tracks that I can't even listen to anymore. And then it's just like, well, I'm just gonna come up with this massive list that I know have things that are also attributed to it. Like I remember, on one of them, I might have said like a list for an entire album, just because there's a story behind the entire album, rather than like individual songs from the album kind of scenario it's. It's, you know, it was really difficult actually trying to narrow any like I think I came up with the first time. I came up with those like 40 something songs because, like I like so many different songs and such a wide variety of stuff that I just can't like. It's just like, hey, you know, you got to pick 10 people to live out of this 40 group, this group of 40 over here.
Speaker 1:It's like group of five million. Right, it's hard. That way Maybe I love it. Well, I'm excited to kind of travel down your road and we're going to open up with your first song. Are you ready, ready? I actually like your playlist. It's very interesting. Thank you. So Valley Girl, ventura quest by dog fashion disco.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Nice Rock in the fashion that's awesome.
Speaker 2:It's like, honestly, that's that's growing to be my favorite band, probably of all time, and that song is specifically on the list because that song was the first song of theirs that I heard from their release anarchist a good taste back in 2001. A friend of mine who does music now showed up to my place in his Berlin Etta and it had like a stereo system in it and everything like that. He's like, dude, you got to listen to this band. I'm like, oh okay, cool beans there.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you've listened to the whole song or not, but there's a section in that song where it cuts all the music out and it's just like don't fall asleep or will mutilate your genitals. And I'm like what the fuck? And then it goes into this like jazzy little smooth listening riff and it's like what the fuck just happened, like it just went from a heavy metal song to a very fucked up statement and now we're listening to smooth jazz. What? And that's literally like the entire discography of this band there. It's like it's like a pink Floyd was transported at the height of their creative you know, greatness, injected with heavy metal, mr Bungle and debauchery dog fashion disco.
Speaker 1:So who exposed you to that band?
Speaker 2:What do you mind? Named Gary we. Actually he moved. He moved from the big city down to the small town where I lived and I was I was, you know me, being a social butterfly I was always walking, especially if they were quiet, I'd always walk up, dude, and that's kind of how it was like hey, what's up, dude. And we found out we had a lot of similar taste in music and he had just listened to that album from his brother and he's like dude, you have to check this out and I honestly I'm super glad that he did, because I've actually been able to go see the band and meet the band and all this other stuff. Such great, such good shit.
Speaker 1:So how many times have you seen them in concert?
Speaker 2:I've seen this twice in person, three times or no, three times if you include the one virtual concert.
Speaker 2:Oh they did a virtual concert. Yeah, during the pandemic will see. The thing is is like when dog fashion broke up, a bunch of the guys got together and put together another band called polka dot cadaver. Yeah, and they will do. When they do like virtual stuff in their local area, they actually rent out this old church and then one band will open up for the other band and if they do a two nighter thing, then there switches up and then the other band will open up for them as well, since it's pretty much mostly the same guys playing all the same songs.
Speaker 1:Anyway, yeah, that's really cool. I'm impressed doing it during COVID and doing doing a virtual.
Speaker 2:They've even they've even done virtuals after the COVID, after the lockdown stopped, and people would just go to the church and then whoever wasn't at the church could just watch it.
Speaker 1:That's really cool.
Speaker 2:Did they charge you any?
Speaker 1:money for the virtual.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, I think it was like 10 bucks, just like you know. Not any bad at all, you know sure, especially if it's going, especially if it's going towards like your favorite band or whatever sold to the man with great as air.
Speaker 1:So what are you drinking today?
Speaker 2:It's actually. It's a non alcoholic sangria soda.
Speaker 1:Sangria soda.
Speaker 2:It's basically like non alcoholic beer. I didn't realize it until after I bought it, but that's apparently what it is. I just liked it because I thought it tasted good and it goes really well in this drink that I make. You take a bunch of like different stuff like cran grapes right, that stuff, lemonade, mix it all together. It's fucking delicious. But yeah, that on its own is pretty good as well. It's kind of funny because everyone's like what is that? And it's like well, it's kind of like wine, except we don't get drunk or hung over.
Speaker 1:Do you think they sell it in Canada?
Speaker 2:I don't know, they probably. I don't see why they wouldn't. I mean, it comes from Mexico, so I mean Interesting.
Speaker 1:I've never seen it before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a if anything I may, you know, I may have to just get a, get a case of it and ship it, you know. See how that goes to see if the board or not Just might ask for one.
Speaker 1:See how good it is.
Speaker 2:Not bad really. I mean, there's worse things in the world to drink, I suppose.
Speaker 1:I agree, I agree, all right. Next song yeah the self.
Speaker 2:Yes, the American head charge, the first band I ever saw live in concert, really.
Speaker 1:It was the first.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was the first concert I ever went to. They were the opening band and it was like slipknot Romstein system of a down. I think it was like nothing face these guys, maybe one or two other like locals here there, but they actually went to the local meat rendering plant on the way to the venue and picked up like fresh pigs, heads and stuff, so like the whole place is covered in plastic and these heads are just on spikes and they're an industrial metal band. So these are a lot of effects and his like non effect Mike was looped up into one of the pig snouts. No, I can, yeah, if he was like singing or whatever he's holding onto the snouts, singing into it and bending around and doing all this stuff.
Speaker 2:The whole album itself is, honestly, start to finish is one of those albums that I can listen to just straight through without. I mean, I could skip some, but I really wouldn't, because I love the fact that each song plays into the next song seamlessly. And it was at a time in my life where, like I actually did another show, where I actually brought that whole album to their show and broke down every track and as I was listening to it. I kept thinking back to myself oh, my goodness, like there's a lot of like, there's a lot of unresolved stuff that I was dealing with at the time of me discovering this music and it just did totally with you, with the fresh eyes of you know, hindsight and age and whatnot. I was like gosh man. I was like I can't, like I still love it, but it's I love it for a completely different reason, mostly because it got me from where I was.
Speaker 2:It's amazing they were out of Minneapolis. The bass player died a year or so ago, one of the founding members. The real tragedy got to see those guys live to. That was pretty sweet show twice actually.
Speaker 1:That's really cool when, like, obviously you love heavy metal. What did your parents listen to when you're growing up?
Speaker 2:So my dad, he was born in 51, so I had like a real, I got a really old that. So like it was all like Motown and you know oldies, like you know 50s and 60s kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:And then my dad is really old too.
Speaker 2:Right. And then my mom was more into the classic rock element like Nazareth and still top, and she, like she, loved to listen to Aerosmith but she couldn't stand up watching in the concert footage and stuff just because of the way he was all acting and whatnot.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:All that stuff really like. There were so many bands that she couldn't stand watching but love listening to because of the like kiss, she loved kiss. She could stand watching kiss because it was a gimmick and whatnot. And then my dad introduced her to Guar and she was like, okay, that's enough.
Speaker 1:So I was like that. When did you fall in love with heavy metal?
Speaker 2:My mother's youngest sister. She lived right down the backyard. It was like 89, maybe 90. I was four or five years old and she had one of them super duper, you know stereo record player, what not and she was listening to Black Sabbath. Black Sabbath and up until that point I was really only listening to like the classics, motown and classical music. That was actually one of the biggest things. Like my mom made sure that I got into right out the gate was classical music and I go into the house and at the beginning of the track, you know, you got the rainfall and thunderstorm and I'm like, oh, you know, and I go over and I sit next to the stereo and then that tritone is a do. Well, I'm like what the fuck just happened? What is this? What is this? And then he starts in and he's the first line of this dog is what is this? That stands before me.
Speaker 1:I'm like I don't know, but I like it. Yeah, that's really cool. So then obviously you were four, so you're pretty young. So I'm assuming you didn't go out and buy your belt Black Sabbath album at that, nope.
Speaker 2:Nope.
Speaker 1:So it progressed. It took a long time. Like when did you get exposed to it again?
Speaker 2:Basically right, just like pretty much right out the gate, Because I it was like I was able to kind of connect Black Sabbath with KISS through there, because, like it's a little, it's a little different but not quite the same. Because, like you know, I listened to like Detroit, rock City and some of the not not necessarily the heavier works and stuff, but like then, after that, you know, like I saw the Saturday Night Live rerun appearance where living color played how cool.
Speaker 2:And then they played Colt of Personality, yeah, and I've that. That fucking floored me. And then, shortly after that, I listened. I had heard Thunder KISS 65 by White Zombie on the radio. That's just like Black Sabbath. Black Sabbath, that's another song that completely changed my life. When I heard those audio samples in there, I was done for man.
Speaker 1:I love it, I love how, you know it's kind of interesting I've never actually had another guest in 200 episodes that you know. My dad grew like you know we were like Blueberry Hill and you know who wears short shorts and all of that yeah, like eight track. And then my mom was like Led Zeppelin, rolling Stones, all of that, and so my like view of music is just from them. And then my grandparents are like you know, mackenzie, mackenzie and like all this kind of you know old school music as well, and because of that I feel like I know so many different bands and I feel like we're the same that way, where you know so many different bands because you were exposed. So I feel like I get growing up like that.
Speaker 1:I give everybody a shot in a sense, because it's like it was so, so different from each other, but yet the music was so good Like I was never like, oh, that's awful, I'll never listen to that. Like how people are just like. I just listened to metal, I just listened to pop. I'm like I feel sorry for you because you should just listen to music.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's that, yeah, and that's kind of the thing where everybody's like so, what kind of music do you like? I just go, good music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everything, I love everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's awesome. I love that. I love that story. That's really cool and then just being exposed and loving and starting so young and loving metal and then developing into that. So were you like a heavy metal guy in high school or what kind of guy were you in high school? Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all of it, all of the above, I'm, I'm. Nowadays they refer to us as like elder goths, like yeah, so it's basically like a goth guy or a goth person. I should say Okay, before, before emo came on the scene, kind of thing. That it's a. It's a weird dynamic, I really it. I've.
Speaker 2:The way I've always understood it is that those who are considered the elders, they kind of realize it's a state of mind, not a fashion statement, because the scene kids are like looking to stand out, which is kind of what we were doing at the time when we did all that stuff, but it's neither here nor there. No, I am, yeah, I was, I was. I was big into heavy metal, I was really big into pretty much everything. Really, I mean, it was one of those. If I was at a party, you know, if we were actually. I should even extrapolate further. I come from a really small town and my dad was still is, but he was a huge drinker. So there was one of the bars in town that knew me on a regular basis. Like literally the table that I'm taping this from came from the booth that I used to sit at after school when I would go and hang out.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:And what they would do is I would always come along and I'd always be underage, but I was a designated driver so nobody bothered me. Even when it wasn't even legal for me to be there, they wouldn't mess with it. But if there was a bunch of people in there and all my friends wanted everybody to leave, they'd give me five bucks and be like all right, go ahead and do your thing. So I'd pump out, like you know, sepultura, pantera, just all this heavy shit, and all the old people would just fucking leave and droves Just get the fuck out of here. No, I, honestly, it was all of it like I was. I was big into rap, I was big into R&B, I was big into, I mean, being in choir for 10 years. I was into all those, all that, that whole, that whole gamut, really.
Speaker 1:No, I love it, I think. I think I always say I feel sorry for people that don't expose themselves to so much different types of music. And when we were growing up like for myself, we weren't called any of that. In elder we were just called rockers. So yeah we didn't have fancy words that they have now. Just check out your next song, don't you mind?
Speaker 2:people grinding in your feet.
Speaker 1:Don't mind people grinding. I feel like this might have a choir story to it.
Speaker 2:No, actually it doesn't. I came across that song almost by accident. Really. I've always also, you know, when I get into something I go, I go a little bit in depth. So obviously, heavy metal, rock and roll, blues, that was the progression that I took into my backwards role and, you know, like Lead Belly, you know Sunhouse, which is exactly who that was. Just now I came across that song and I was like, you know, it'd be really cool because it's an acapella song, it's like it'd be really cool if I were to like and I came up with a whole set to it, like a bass line, guitar line, and I made the melody chase the lyrics rather than the lyrics chase the melody. And I actually realized after the fact that I can't remember the other rapper but KRS one always stands out as being one of the rappers who actually did that themselves In the rap community instead of, you know, because you always had, everything in the 80s and early 80s was always centered around the beat.
Speaker 2:Like you know, rappers Delight or or tricky, if you will. But you know, krs one and ultimately, like the Wu Tang clan and those guys, they didn't make, they didn't make their lyrics conform to the beat, they made the beat conform to the lyrics, in a manner of speaking. It was, it just was amazing but yeah, no that that song actually came across by complete accident, and I was just like you know, I fucking love this thing. This was something that was taped in the 60s from an earlier recording that was done back when he was doing his thing on the road, and I even brought it on the show and Jeremy absolutely fucking despised it, so I absolutely put that on there, specifically in case he listened to it.
Speaker 1:So we could hear it.
Speaker 2:So we could hear it and be like God, damn it grife.
Speaker 1:God damn it. I love it. I think it's awesome. We're going to hound you, jeremy, I'm going to. Actually, I should send it to him just to be awesome. No, I love it. I think, again, it's just really cool that you have your. You know, you're so open to all this type of music, which is which is phenomenal. Again, I just I love my show because it explores so much different types of music.
Speaker 1:This is probably one of the favorite parts of my show is that when somebody sends me their playlist, I it's winter here in Canada, but usually I just kind of drive around my car and listen to the playlist and just kind of get a feel. I can generally tell how the podcast is going to go. By the playlist that sent to me, I can kind of get into their brain a little bit, understand a little bit about them. It's going to be good or bad, or maybe I should cancel because it's just like where there's going to be no connection or whatever it is. So I love, I love diving deep, so you can go dive deep. While you're speaking about kind of diving deep, I look at it different artists I get to dive deep into your playlist and kind of try to figure out what, what kind of person you are, which is always like the most funnest part of me doing this show and yeah, that's really cool, I love it.
Speaker 1:So when you were obviously growing up, getting into metal, you know, you just talked a little bit about playing guitar. So was that your first instrument that you ever picked up was a guitar?
Speaker 2:Yep, I didn't know that I would have been able to play guitar and band, but when they wouldn't let me play the drums, I just went and did choir and then did that for 10 years but I got really sick, probably like 15, maybe 17 years ago, some weird stomach thing that never really got sorted out until very recently. But I basically I trained my dog and I taught myself how to play guitar and once I kind of did that, you know I played for the longest time and the one that the guitar that I own is actually the guitar that was made by one of the people that actually inspired me to play guitar, from my local area. It's a Frankenstein style guitar. It takes a body from one type of a guitar neck and a head from another type of a guitar.
Speaker 2:I got two like EMGs which are the pickups for the guitar. It's very sensitive, like I can breathe on the strings and it comes out the sound of the of the amp. I can't even play on other guitars because like literally it's, it doesn't come through because the I'm so I'm able to play it so light that if I play on somebody else it's like you don't know how to play guitar. It's like I really do. It's just your pickups fucking suck bro.
Speaker 1:So what's your first song ever played on guitar?
Speaker 2:In a God of David.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, that's impressive.
Speaker 2:It's not really. Not really, because it's all just on one string. If you do, if you're not doing it right, like literally, it's just I played the, I played the the do do be the do do. That's it, it's all these, it's just de-string. Honestly, learning how to play guitar taught me a lot of things about music as well, like Iron Maiden's the Number of the Beast yeah, the song, correct, okay, did you know that? That's just a tempo note. Change to when the saints go marching in oh, no, I didn't. Yeah, oh, when the saints go marching in yeah, dude, and then they just take it down instead of going up, the solo from we're not going to take it by twisted sister is oh, come, all you faithful. When they even do that, they've come down in their Christmas album.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, dude, and I got you know just all these things that people are like, wow, wow I think it was Richie Blackmore was talking about smoke on the water from Deep Purple being the fifth symphony inverted, and that was another thing that caught my attention as well as to why I was really into heavy metal after classical music, because I truly find them to be the closest related genres in music.
Speaker 1:Who were your first call it three, four bands, when you picked up the guitar that you wanted to go in and learn.
Speaker 2:Honestly, the only reason that I ever like taught myself how to play a guitar was to show somebody who had better skill than I did the stuff I heard in my head, because I'm a wordsmith, that's, that's my thing, like you know.
Speaker 2:I used to be able to say, like I still can kind of sing, but I used to be able to like sing rather well and extremely high notes and all these other things you know. But I always heard guitar and other like musical instrument stuff in my head and I would essentially get together with other people who could play and try and sort it out. And you know, it always worked itself out into some interesting avenues. But as far as, like, when I first picked up the guitar, a lot of stuff I wanted to learn how to play was stuff that I had learned. That I discovered through my aunt and by the soon as I was able to actually play all the stuff that I wanted to play in front of her, she actually found religion and stopped listening to heavy metal entirely. So, yeah, yeah, it's like oh, hey, auntie, I want to learn how to play you all the songs from my youth. Stop playing the devil music, like what the fuck that's so crazy.
Speaker 1:Have you been able to show her, like all this new kind of heavy metal, that she's probably not been? That's so crazy.
Speaker 2:That's a much. That's a much.
Speaker 1:All right, this is a great band to listen to.
Speaker 2:And he played a lot of it on acoustic and then entered in a lot of electrical components for electric guitar stuff and the electric guitar that he uses is by guitar and it was always something that I always kind of like. You know, if I didn't make it in any kind of you know any kind of moves in the music industry, anything like that, I just wanted to have at least one thing that I had to, you know, even if it was just to cover something that was mine, that I recorded like it's me this is me with my friend playing guitar, and you know, this song itself, like the band itself, the song itself, just always resonated with me, because you could always just feel the pain and his voice, even on the unplugged version, when he sang it. You just, you just feel it that that stuff really resonates with me.
Speaker 1:So you were in choir for 10 years. Why did you get out? Why did you decide to stop?
Speaker 2:Well, I had enough choir detention that I actually taught myself how to play the beginning deferre lease on a piano, if that tells you any kind of thing of how long or how much choir detention I had. The choir teacher. I didn't help them. I don't want to go into this is an innocent victim here. Like I didn't help matters much, I was not of. I was.
Speaker 2:I was a bit unruly, but the choir teacher like to make an example and even if I didn't do something, if something happened and her back was turned, she would come down on me for it. And my mother, being the ever so loving, belligerent psychopath that she is, had a conference with this teacher because of all the unruly nonsense that had been going on and I don't know if the fucking teacher woke up and drank a whole bag of ass glass, of fuck around and find out, or if she forgot who the fuck she was talking to. But she was like, oh yeah, she fully admitted to my mother that everything I just said to you about making an example out of me Fun fact on the very thin side of the other side of the plaster wall was the band teacher's office, who hated the choir teacher. So the band teacher and I were literally just sitting there listening to this thing unfold. And he's like you know, my mom's got a pretty loud speaking voice to begin with and he's like, is she yelling?
Speaker 2:I was like no, I will know when she's yelling. And then she started to yell and I was like now she's fucking yelling. And he's like, do we need to go in there? I was like no, not, unless you hear something slamming around and we'll probably be good. Oh man, she read her to the whole asriat act, like it was a whole thing. And then she was just like you know what? You're not doing this anymore. And I was like okay, so you want to say like, did you want to keep pursuing?
Speaker 2:it.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, I really enjoyed, like I enjoyed. I enjoyed the element of being able to sing and I had already picked out my senior song, although there that was the contentious HU as well and I enjoyed, like we did a competition where we scored very high and it was with a very, very small, by a small choir, which was kind of. One of the things that was really impressive is that we had, at the right opportunity, we had a massive lineup of just heavy hitters and there may have been like 12 of us and seven of us could sing. So like we just knocked it out. And the only thing I hated was that in order to do bad choir, you had to be in show choir. Oh, what's that mean? So like, show choir is basically the song and dance numbers from like musicals and shit.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, so you had to learn how to do that.
Speaker 2:So to this day I still I fucking hate musicals, like absolutely hate musicals. We were forced to watch all of them, like as preparation kind of stuff, like five, six, seven, fuck you, but no.
Speaker 1:What's your go to? I don't want to say karaoke, but like, let's say, you're at a karaoke bar and you could pick any song and you just kind of want to blow, blow your friends away or blow the girl away, and you get up there and you sing what?
Speaker 2:Oh, wow, um, Um. Well, it really depends. There's a whole varying depending on what kind of a voice day you're having, but like it could be anything from Stevie Wonder, sharia Moore to actually the song we just heard, not Shell, or a Volbeat. Um, there's a few songs from them that I would, that I could do. That would just you know that I like, um, I was at a bar with a friend of mine who knew the bartender and it was early, like we just got off work, it was early in the day, like early in the afternoon or whatever, and I put some money in the jukebox and we're all just sitting there and it's literally just us and like maybe a couple other people, and the song comes on.
Speaker 2:I think it was broken man in the dawn and I just start singing the song as I'm sitting there and it's. They're all able to hear me over this, over the system and everything, and they're like they're all kind of looking at each other. My friend knows that I can sing. They knew I was in choir or whatnot. They're just kind of sitting there with a shitty eating grand, just like, oh yeah, it's amazing as far as karaoke goes, like I don't know, there's so many of them that I, that I could or would sing like Green Day's she. That's a good one, that's a great song. Um, basket case, um, if I wanted to go a little bit heavier, I maybe like living colors, the cult personality, like I was standing earlier or what about if you're going to impress a girl she didn't know?
Speaker 2:anything, okay, so I'll just tell you the story. I didn't have to do it a karaoke. So like my girlfriend now was on her break at work and I showed up at her job and I was listening to, my listening to Sharia Moore by by Stevie Wonder, and it's like right at the beginning of the song when he's doing the da da da, and like I sit in the car and I look at it and I was like, fun fact, I was in choir for 10 years, lovely as a summer day, and she's just like what the fuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, basically like what the fuck just happened here.
Speaker 1:Okay okay, that was about it. Does she get you to sing a lot?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, when it's nice out we'll go. She'll be like, hey, let's go for a car ride. I don't really know. She always suckers me into it too, like I don't, because I'm not, I'm, I'm. I'm an introverted extrovert. You could say I'm a living conundrum.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like I don't I love to sing, but like I'm not going to be all. Like you know you spend all your life.
Speaker 1:I'm going to sing for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you spend all your life getting told to shut the fuck up. You start to shut the fuck up and you don't want to be too loud in front of everybody. But then again, you know, you get a couple of drinks in me and I'm a lot of motherfucker. But yeah, she'll. So she'll just take us out on the road and she'll have a playlist and she's already got ready to go with all of her favorite songs that she likes to hear me sing, and then like about three songs into it. I realized kind of what's happening. It's like God damn it, she got me again.
Speaker 1:I love that. I do that to my husband. He plays guitar and like he's not a professional singer or anything, but I always encourage him to sing. Like I'm like I want you to sing when you're playing. So he'll be like, hey, I'm going to go play guitar and he'll be in the basement and I can hear him playing guitar and sing and I know when he's having like a good playing guitar singing day and I know when he is not.
Speaker 1:But I love it because I think, like if you're not an artist and you're just used to going in and playing and that's just what you do, I admire that. But what I admire more is people that have taught themselves how to play guitar. They're going to go sing and somebody is potentially in that house that could hear them and they're not pros, and I admire that, that you are comfortable enough to go and do something like that. I just think that's awesome and I'm always encouraging him to do that and regardless if he feels like it's really good or not, I'm always like I think it's amazing that you're doing that Right?
Speaker 1:I think it's yeah.
Speaker 2:It's cool and it always helps us on the other end of that song, the other side of the table, Even if we know we're having a bad day. Having someone there for that support system really makes it not quite as bad as we thought it was.
Speaker 1:That's right, all right, let's next song. Don Williams must be love.
Speaker 2:It must be yes, and I actually I also enjoy Alan Jackson's cover of that song as well. He did a good job with it as well. That actually stems from stuff that my dad used to listen to, like he still does, and stuff. I mean I went out and bought like a massive record collection when we got all the stimulus money over the lockdown and I had a bunch of like. It came with a bunch of Don Williams records and all that stuff. So I sent it over there with them because I know I love it too, but I knew they'd get much more appreciation out of it than I would and that literally like that's.
Speaker 2:You know that'd be something that my parents would be sitting around and they'd be having drinks and whatnot. And they did come on. You know whether they had it in the tape deck, eight track record, whatever you want to call it. And you know dad had just hum a little, hum a little bit. You know he could say the man, the man could sing, but he just never. He never had enough confidence in himself to put throughout the effort. But you know that was kind of how that was kind of my introduction to it. I was like, oh, okay, all right, that's what's up.
Speaker 1:So your dad was a heavy alcoholic when you were growing up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, still is yeah Well, I mean he's, it's not, it's gotten infinitely better. It really has Cause, like the way that it was growing up I would always say that my dad's the highest functioning alcoholic I ever saw Cause like he never missed work, never affected his life in extreme negative connotations, like there were also circumstances when he drank a gallon of liquor trying to set three carburetors on a car yeah, couldn't walk, but he set them. Some bitches fucking ran like a kitten.
Speaker 1:It's crazy. My, my dad was an alcoholic too, um, but super functional, super happy, not a, not an angry drunk, but I could pinpoint and be like every three days, right. So I just knew like if I came from from school they weren't there, I'd be like aw, it's drinking day. I just knew it. I just it was like, and his drink of choice was lucky or black label, right, they drank flats of that shit, um, but yeah, it's just crazy watching like growing up and just you know he's, he was a chain smoker, so he was fucking chain smoking.
Speaker 2:So was my dad yeah.
Speaker 1:And then obviously, as you become a teenager, the drinking and the smoking and stuff is kind of cool Cause. Then you can go out and do whatever the hell you want and you're rolling their cigarettes and you're taking half of the cigarettes and you're taking beer or the fridge for you can go drink as well.
Speaker 2:So See, uh, my dad, my dad drank liquor, so there wasn't any beer to be had, but I had been known to uh steal bits and pieces of all their liquor bottles and keep it in a gallon jug. So it'd be like this giant gallon jug of, like you know, mix, fucking blended whiskey, peach schnapps, fucking triple sack mix just the worst imaginable on its own all mixed together. And the first time I remember I brought that out, I watched my friend get into a fist fight with a six foot thistle and I was like, oh no, and he's like, what happened? You got into a fight with a thistle? Huh, why did you let me do it? I wasn't coming in after you fucked that.
Speaker 1:And you're the first time you got drunk.
Speaker 2:I do. Yep, I was like nine, I think Um my cousins actually convinced me that my grandfather's glass of brandy was apple juice.
Speaker 2:Oh and uh, by the time I realized it wasn't apple juice, the glass was already half gone because I was so thirsty. I was just drinking it without tasting it and then, all of a sudden, the taste hit me and I was like this ain't apple juice. By that time it's already like it's already done and done. And my dad you know the devil, recognizing his own whatnot he saw me kind of getting a little Herbie Derby and he's like uh, you're going to want to go to the bathroom, kid, I'll cover for you. I'm like oh, okay, so I go to the bathroom. We're like why did my dad want me to? It was so bad. It was probably, like you know, cause it was like a regular glass. It was like a glass. Yeah, it was like a regular glass. So it wasn't one of them, like you know, liquor glasses or anything like that.
Speaker 1:You know that.
Speaker 2:I would have known because, you know, dad used to drink with his friends with the whiskey glasses, with the, with the shit on the bottom so it wouldn't slide on the ice, and you know, with the condensation and shit, it was a regular glass. So I, like they said, hey, that's fucking more apple Geez. I'm like, okay, it's apple Geez. Bam, that's a lot. Everybody else is they're all. They're all like.
Speaker 1:Looking at me all wide eyed and I'm like I thought I was just, I thought I was just my parents used to make a sake and they used to make wine out of those big huge jugs. Right, we had a, we had a wood stove and so there'd be like these big huge garbage cans by the wood stove because they would like have all the berries and stuff in there and the sugar and, and then they would funnel it and they'd have like hounds of wine in the room like these big jugs, and we would go in there and we would steal a big jug and like sneak out the house. How'd I have it in my backpack and we'd sneak out of the house and we would drink this fucking wine. We'd only do it when they were drinking, but I'm sure that they probably know to this day that we sold some, sold some of that wine. But we would get fucking annihilated on that shit. Like homemade wine is like out of control. Yeah, it is hot.
Speaker 2:Especially, especially if that's what they're going after in the first place, like that's. You know cause. If your dad was like my dad, it wasn't like they were trying to drink some low octane shit Like they're. They're in it to win it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no he. I never really seen him drink hard alcohol, which is probably a good thing, Cause I think my dad would probably kill somebody if he drank hard alcohol and that might be reason why he probably just drank beer. I never seen any hard alcohol, which was probably a good thing.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean that one could still get pretty high if you fuck with it, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was. It was out of control. All right, I like it. I like your playlist. All the songs called drag.
Speaker 2:Yeah, placebo, um, I uh Sorry, it's a that's sentimental one for me Um, my, uh. And that my acts, um, introduced me to that band, and the reason that that song particular stands out for me is that there's so many lyrics in that song that just resonated Like um, you're the monkey I've got on my back that tells me to shine. Um, uh, what is it? I just want to, uh, I just want to get off my chest that I think you're divine, like literally. The whole thing is just basically about how the person that the singer admires is so far advanced. You know you're always ahead of the game while I drag behind. You know, it's just, it's, uh, it's, it's, it's honestly, it's, it's really it's. It's one of those, it's one of those songs that I, if you don't, even if you don't have someone special in your life for that, just listen to it to understand it and it. It can be applicable in so many other ways, but that's where it hit me specifically.
Speaker 1:And obviously you're, you're not with that girl anymore.
Speaker 2:No, you are negative.
Speaker 1:So you're with a new girl now and had your. How did you and your new girl meet?
Speaker 2:Uh well, we were friends, like like, uh, she was friends with a buddy of mine's girlfriend. Uh, I call, I call him my little brother. It's like I'm an only child, but like I adopted him. He was younger, needed some, needed a role model kind of thing, and then he had this girlfriend and then my girlfriend was her friend, so like we had kind of known each other a little bit and then, you know, situations just lined up where so the girlfriend that came from that song and her were friends. Negative.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:No, no, it was uh. Uh, my, my girlfriend was the friend of my friend's girlfriend.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay. So how long from dating to the bedroom? How long did it take? Week Couple days Hour.
Speaker 2:Month. It took a little while because, like she was in the process of leaving a pretty toxic thing on her own. So, like I was, it really was kind of like a we were, we were each other support system. And then, like you know, we were talking you earlier in my introduction. You were talking about thought experiments and what I can actually extrapolate on a little bit, so like for my own personal private thought experiments, I'll have conversations in my head with people that I know and if, depending on the length of time that I know them, I can almost to the T determine which, which direction, of course, of a conversation will take, and then I can also prepare for the antithesis of that, antithesis of that point as well.
Speaker 2:I did a similar style of thought exercise with her at the time as to let's see how this plays out. And then it kind of was like, oh OK, so I actually need to do something, like yeah, yeah, you probably should. And then it kind of, you know, the next day I come home and she's in the driveway, like they're talking on the phone after the break up and whatnot, and I'm like I'm going to go inside because I don't, I can't stand being in my mother focus when they grind. I'm going inside.
Speaker 1:So is it a pretty toxic break up from the last song? Just your no.
Speaker 2:No, it wasn't. It wasn't a toxic break up. There was definitely toxic toxicity to both elements of the relationship. I wasn't a saint and neither was she it it's. It's a tough thing to talk about.
Speaker 1:It sounds like there's maybe some unresolved feelings motions there as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's. You know what I and I don't mean to like Harper on you about this, but it's very. This is why I love music so much. It is interesting that a song can bring up an emotion, bringing back to a place, or remind you of somebody, and there's that connection, whether it's good or bad. Like I tell you, if I ever hear love bites, I would like I will literally run across the room and stab the DJ in the eye to turn that song on because it reminds me of, like, my very first serious boyfriend. His name was junior, right, we're madly in love, apparently, and that was our song. And then, like, obviously we did not work out, we're fine, but then he went and played Russian roulette and shot himself in the fucking head. You know what I mean. So it's like I don't want to go hear that song Just because of that. Like I don't want to think about that and it's it's like you can't change that wiring. It's almost like it's always wired in your brain that way.
Speaker 2:You know, you and I have far too many things in common.
Speaker 1:I know I've been noticing that, so I don't know if it's the same for you, but it's. It's very interesting. And I don't know if you think of music this way, but for me when I listen to music it's like a different thing. I don't know a lot about a band or I don't know a lot about all the names of the people in the band. I don't contaminate my brain with that stuff at all, like I've never have. But where my contamination with music comes from is like one note. I you know I can do one note probably know that band 90% the artist. I'm really good at that. Don't fucking challenge me to name that tune, you'll lose. Like like that's kind of my, my niche, I guess you could say. But then another part is like there's always something about the song, whether it's how they played a guitar riff, whether they have how they play the drums, a baseline, the little lyric in the song where I'm like, oh fuck, I love when they sing this, part it and lost. I lost.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know, I was weird. I was like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:I was like I was like I was like so yeah, so that's kind of how where my music talent comes from is like I'm always in this deep dive and you know what I never feel I don't. It's very rare that I would run into somebody that thinks of music and like listens to it the way I do or like picks up on it the way I do, and when I find those people I'm always in awe because it's like it's like I actually found another me, which I think a not a lot of people listen to music the way I listen to music and think about music the way I think about music, and I feel like you're frozen. What is happening Night? Weird. I don't know what happened there, so bizarre, yeah, I know I Double-checked my Wi-Fi connection and everything.
Speaker 2:My I'm by the numbers. I'm five by five. I.
Speaker 2:Don't know who knows, I Know like I was saying that I have a similar thing. We're like what you were saying. You know you don't contaminate it with the knowledge of like all the other stuff. I can't help but do that. But at the same time, like all here are part of a song, and I'll still be like, oh, that's this band. And a lot of times my girlfriend will actually play either polka-dacadaver, dog fashion, disco or one of their other bands To see if I can distinguish which band it is, find out like which song it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah what album it came from it's. It's kind of funny how we have that similar thing just just on separate routes. Like I can't help but contaminate it with the small details of all the All the little intricate you know, minutiae it. But for me sometimes, you know, like you say, you resonate with a no. But that to me that also is the minutiae like there are. There are songs that I absolutely despise because of the way the singer holds a specific note and it's like get the fuck out, I'll be, I'll be a fan of the song all the way up to a point and then they hit it. It's like Fuck it, you're dead. To me, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Right next song what?
Speaker 2:is happening. I don't know, but I could see.
Speaker 1:So beautiful song, I believe, oh.
Speaker 2:I thought that's what that was. It kind of it kind of cut it in and out a little bit. I was like, oh my god, is this, I believe. So you remember how I said that I picked my senior solo song for choir and it was this one, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's awesome.
Speaker 2:I love it yeah everybody was all about it till the last verse and I was like what? And I didn't? I didn't put two and two together about it, because everything else about the song is absolutely beautiful. It has a great fucking message. Like In my head, it's like why not just not have that part in there? Easy peasy done, everybody's happy sings a good song. You get to play your piano, because that was the one thing that the choir teacher was Like it. It really had to have a piano accompaniment to it.
Speaker 2:Okay, that was important and so that I was. You know, obviously I. I knew she wasn't gonna go for it, but at the same time I knew that it was gonna stroke her ego because of so much piano accompaniment to it, especially the piano solo and everything, and I knew like she was all about it. And then we get to the last verse and she's just like what Am I reading that right? I was like, yeah, you're reading it right. I mean we don't have to have it in there, but I mean they had to get the principal involved and whatnot.
Speaker 2:It's like dude. It's like dude. It's just me and you here talking about how we handle this thing. Just take it out, sing the song. I Don't. It's dumb, like I understand. I can't say that. That's not my point. My point is everything else about the song is a very relevant point. Take this one thing. That's not okay. Put it over here. Insert some other, yeah, insert some other acceptable word like loser or whatever, that whatever derogatory, nonsensical thing that would be Inserted in that position for anybody fucking else other than the guy that wrote the song, which also funny enough, by the way. That song fucking. She likes me, for me, same band.
Speaker 1:No way.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's a way. So what was your graduation song?
Speaker 2:Well, technically I technically I didn't graduate, but the I think the graduation song that my, that my classmates shows was that stupid vitamin C song, vitamin graduation. The graduation song, it's so fucking, it's so bad. It literally made me want to claw my fucking eyes out with with lemon, with with like a fucking Like one of those fucking ice cream scoopers, a melon baller or whatever. It's literally. It's literally like the course is like and we go on something or other. Fucking, it's so bad. It's so fucking bad, I think a really bad 90s pop song.
Speaker 2:Yep, real bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean pet peeves, things that drive you crazy.
Speaker 2:Oh, I mean lots of different stuff, but usually for the most part, like if somebody really wants to upset me, they got to work at it. I Used to be really short triggered and would always pop off, and that's kind of one of the things. Like I basically morphed my original anger problem Into Something that's a lot more amusing. It's actually become kind of like a little trope for the maniacal music musing show. Like on the bracket shows there's a lot of like Casey I'm saying this, but you know I'm just saying this in event in advance about you buddy. Like he will be on these things to Watch me have these meltdowns. Like I will just fucking. Like you got a very, very small dose of it when you were on the show, but like there will be times where I'll just go straight off. I'm like what in the fuck.
Speaker 2:This is fucking ridiculous, and it just you know it, just like I, I, I realized I'm losing my temper, so then I grab a hold of it and turn it to something funny. So that way, instead of people being like God, that guy's a fucking asshole. It's always like you know he might be an asshole, but he's pretty fucking funny.
Speaker 1:Gonna give this guy fucking heart attack all the time, right oh.
Speaker 2:It's what I really bad like the vein in my forehead sticks out and branches off. It's, it's so, it's so awful, so it's bleeding, and that's why I've always got my camera so far back so you can't tell that. It's like this giant index finger sticking out of my head Do you have a nickname. Not really. No, never, never had a nickname growing up, no um, like you know, you know chance, because most of the time people mess up my name anyway.
Speaker 1:So you're just accept it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean honestly, it's like it's one of those things where it's like, you know, you can call me pretty much whatever you want, just as long as it's not derogatory. I don't care because, like you know, people, people call me Chauncey and and chance or like I Think there for a while in high school much kids used to call me boner.
Speaker 1:Boner interesting nickname. Did you have a bonus in high school all the time, or what like? Why would you know?
Speaker 2:No, we were doing a repelling tower and PE. Okay, and you have those. You got those harnesses on yeah and when you're going like literally, it was one of those things where, like, I just let go and did a quick stop and when you do a quick stop, the entire harness just like Congeals to the backside of the center. Oh, it just congeals to the backside of the center of your ass. So, like, everything else is just like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mangled.
Speaker 2:And so, yeah, the front bits were all mangled up into this lump and fucking oh look, he's got a boner. Like no, if I did I would have been. If I did, I would have probably been a paraplegic at this point, because that was a sudden stop after a long fall.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm, what an interesting time to get a boner repelling yeah right Like oh yeah, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 2:I mean, you know, I was picked on a lot when I was younger, so they were like you know, I'm the cool upperclassmen fucking. I'm gonna call him boner Fucking. That didn't really stick.
Speaker 1:Is that one of your your hardest things that you went through in high school this being picked on?
Speaker 2:absolutely not. No, no, no. That high school, it got a lot easier. I mean, columbine changed the entire game. Really.
Speaker 2:I'm like for real, for real, like I was in junior high, like just getting ready to go into high school, when that happened and I was in the back of the class reading a book in this Clean, like a literature class, and they were all having a class discussion about it and me personally I just was reading a book because Not to some, I don't want to to detract from the tragedy, the situation, but like I just I didn't care. Like it was one of those things like Fucking people go crazy with guns and shit, fucking Okay. So this time the venue changed in the age, demographic was a lot different. Fucking Insert issue here, yeah, but they were all, but they were all talking about it in the narrative at the time was like, oh, they did it because they were bullied and blah, blah, blah, blah. And that's exactly one of the questions that the kid asked our teacher and whatnot. And I'm not paying attention and I look up and she, after she tells them that you know, they the what's.
Speaker 2:What appears to be the case is that these two did this because they were picked on a lot in school and I look up and everybody's fucking looking at me. I'm kind of looking at everybody else and I don't know why everybody's looking at me and I don't really like. I love a good awkward situation, but you know, I always try to ease the tension somehow and I didn't really know what was said ahead of time, because was not the proper fucking response. Yeah, so I got. I got 90 days with the, with like the, the state shrink that would come around and deal with the, the out of pocket children, the ones that had disciplinary issues. She sat around with me for an hour. She's like why are you here? And I explain the situation to her. She's like what did we learn? And I was like I should pay attention.
Speaker 2:I should probably pay attention in class and she's like yeah, yeah, well, you know, we'll just call it study hall. So I basically I talked to her how you been? What's going on study hall? Yeah, Kids can be after those for sure, oh yeah, after that nobody mess with me. Like it was there, they assumed I was a ticking time bomb ready to go off.
Speaker 1:I mean gonna go to school, right like.
Speaker 2:I don't know why they, I don't know why they would have thought that specific thought because literally at that time it was still that time frame where people would you know all the hunters, kids would come with their gun, racks and stuff and they'd go hunting.
Speaker 2:I mean, at that time the worst place to try and pull one of them fucking things would have been my high school, because literally would have just been like a gunfight at the okay fucking car out. But, like you know, there would be times where I'd get picked on and then, like you know, the teacher would catch me carrying a steel chair back to the group where they were because I was gonna fucking, you know, tuchaka, and you know I had anger problems. You know, fuck, I got picked on when I was growing up and a lot of bullshit and but you know I gladly I got through it. Fucking a lot of psychedelics, fucking, really fucking, changes your outlook on things. And come to find out, you know, all these years later it's like oh hey, they're using psychedelics to help treat, you know, ptsd and depression and all these other things and it's like no fucking shit, huh.
Speaker 1:I could have told you that right shit.
Speaker 2:You could have gave me all that, graham, and I'd tell you the same fucking thing that's right, all right, next song right, so we mutilated lips.
Speaker 2:Oh my god that's. I'm so glad this made the cut, all right. Well, okay, so this is when this is gonna be a deep dive and we're gonna get real, real, real quick. Okay. So I was a product of the dare generation, right, and you know, they basically were like everything is terrible and my parents had a very exposed, like an exposure style growing process. So, like my anti drug slogan growing up until the dare program was literally that scene in fatal beauty when that kid goes to the pool house, it comes back and everybody's dead because that shit's tainted. And my parents are like that's what happens if you do drugs. So I grow up.
Speaker 2:I think I was like 16 yeah, I was 16, was my 16th birthday, I smoked weed for the first time and then I was like they lied, they lied about everything. And then I got to thinking about it and I was like, well, if I ever have a son or a child or whatever, one day I wanted them to be able to come to me and be like dad. I did this drug at a party or I did that drug at a party. So I basically went on a whole fucking expedition to try all the drugs the only reason I told you that was to say this, and it does include why it ties into the song. So I did some speed right. First time ever up for two weeks. Don't recommend it. Not a good time.
Speaker 2:I don't recommend it either by day, like seven or eight, I hadn't had anything.
Speaker 2:I had any food or anything like that. We go to a friend's house and this is right about the time when that really really high-pokey weed was coming through, like from California and Canada and Oregon and stuff like that, and buddy mine gives me his bong and take a big old fucking hitter out of that and I stood over his sink and cough for 45 minutes and if I would have had food in my stomach I would have definitely thrown up. But I got so fucking high and he's like hey, dude, come over here. So he sits me on his couch and on the old school Xboxes you could pull up like a Windows media player and it would have those trippy psychedelics and he fucking play. And he played that song and I'm just like like literally everything just starts to feel like it's floating and you get these just like that whole lead into the song. Is that fucking like what? And the fucking shit's freaking out in the background and you're just like, dude, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker 1:The good story. What was your? What was your drug of choice?
Speaker 2:oh, it's always been marijuana. Yeah, like I honestly, like I was always super jacked up. I was a very, very hyperactive child so, like uppers have never really did it for me, it was just kind of like what's drug you?
Speaker 1:know, like you know, yeah, I'm glad I tried that, but I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna try that again pretty much most of them like to be honest, because I mean, like you know, now, especially nowadays, with all that I wouldn't with it.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, yeah, yeah, I got it like, no matter what I'd be like I don't fucking think I can, I just right. I think it'd be scary because I've tried all drugs too and I'd be like freaked out to like try ecstasy again or try code and I had a good time scared to like yeah, yeah, just yeah because you don't know what's in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like it was, we didn't really know then, but yeah, well, we didn't know here.
Speaker 1:I just felt like it was you know what the book was split with baby laxatives. Oh my god, I did coke have to go take a shit like that was like the right. Yeah, it's like. Even if I think about coke right now, I'll have to go take a shit like it's just right. So it's like I don't know I just don't. The only thing I would like to try again, but still makes me a little bit paranoid is mushrooms.
Speaker 2:Still makes me paranoid, though, because I mean if you, I mean if you can get a hold of the right like if there's, there's people that grow up themselves now, yeah, and if you know the person and then and like if they have the horticultural knowledge, then absolutely I would totally be down with that. But, like you know, like like cocaine, I did cocaine for a while and I stopped doing that because I noticed that I would just like all my muscles would start to tense up and then I could feel like the onset of anger which I was like, oh okay, well, I'm getting hooked on this. I gotta stop, be done with that. And then for me it was really easy to quit doing math because, like it went from that really pure, the good, the good, as good, as good, yeah, the quality, you know, ingredient, as could be at the time in the circumstance to this crazy nonsense where people lose their minds after three fucking days.
Speaker 2:But like you know, I watched Requiem for a Dream and, fucking, I basically walked away from a whole litany of drugs based on that fucking movie. Man, I never I've got a terrible phobia of needles. I have no tattoos, no piercings. Go like I never, I never fucked around with anything in Ravina, sir, anything like that either.
Speaker 1:But I still snorted heroin. I still try to, I still smoke, I snorted, I did it is.
Speaker 2:I did it with ecstasy as a dirty roll.
Speaker 1:Those, those are my favorite, like an upper and a downer, so you do code. Yeah, the rubber band roller coaster.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember doing that. No, it's I like I liked doing. Yeah, I actually liked the ecstasy that was piled together with the heroin, so they call them dirty rolls and instead of, instead of being all whacked out, wanting to dance and being all like super, yeah so like you get that.
Speaker 2:You get that element, cuz you know a method that means a part of the chemical compound. But then at the same time, at the same time you get that rubber band roller coaster, so you'll be in the fucking party going. It's in all of a sudden, it's just like, but it feels great, like everything's the greatest thing ever. But yeah, that the outside of that, like that was really like that. I just really didn't care much for all the other stuff because it was just, you know, too much of my foot above my faculties were being given up in order to achieve some type of state.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like hallucinogens were okay, but I'm a set-and-setting kind of guy. Like I can't. I can't go to like a hippie festival and get all fucking wasted and wander amongst the hippies like I'd. I'd lose my mind. That'd be the nah. Nah can't do that. And then, like you know, fucking uppers are fucking terrible, because then you're trapped in, like your mind, if not wherever you're at, bouncing off the fucking walls drinking.
Speaker 2:I never really was a fan of drinking because, like there's no middle ground for me. I can't just have a good buzz like I will, I'll be drinking, and then I'm drunk, doesn't it? But I'm also allergic to beer, so like I can't drink beer, so you can't slow your way into it, there's no medium zone for me. It's like, all right, we're gonna take a few shots and now I'm wasted, but yeah, and then too much of my faculties are being given up. I prefer to be in control of the meat wagon as I'm going down the way, rather than kind of being told oh hey, by the way, fucking last night fucking ruin, and you know, did you act?
Speaker 1:I only had 16 times with your head, so just thought you should know that, right, you wake up, no idea. And that was literally what happened. I woke. I was what I thought was while I was sleeping. I was sleeping and all I heard was dance, music, right, and I was sleep. I was like, holy fuck, like am I asleep in this fucking club? And I woke up and I was in my bed, but I was still like somewhat high. But when I woke up I was like that's it, I'm done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, first of all, waking up and not like, or just like slaying there and not knowing where I am and thinking that I'm in a fucking rave, I need to not do drugs anymore. And I did. I literally woke up. So that is it. I did probably the whatever. I went and wrote letters to all of those people that I knew, and that day I went and just put them on their car. On their cars, use their kind of windshield wipers. They'd fucking read it and that was it. I never heard from any of them. They never, ever reached out to me and it was just like that. I was just totally done. I never wanted to ever do it again. From that experience, thinking that I was in a fucking nightclub and I just like it's time to stop. And it wasn't like I was doing drugs every single day, it was just like it was like it was on the weekend, right or?
Speaker 2:whatever.
Speaker 1:Like this is just not working for me anymore. Like I'm not seeing how this is gonna progress my life or make me become a better human, continuing to do this at all.
Speaker 1:And I was starting to watch more people go more and more, like I already seen people go to the third and then I was like people were collapsing and I'm like, you know, dying around me and I'm like I just this is not. And now, you know, I look at 10, 20 years later, I look at all the people that I literally grew up with and enymo, 75% of those people are all dead. All drug overdose, all went from, like you know, fucking fentanyl and all this crazy fucking shit that they're fucking putting in with the drugs, and I'm just like it's brutal, it's like I'm so glad that I made that decision, moved and never, ever went back there.
Speaker 2:Right, it's like the old saying it was good, but it's good that it was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I'm grateful that I went through those experiences, for sure, right, obviously you can't always have those types of conversations with people, because nobody's really, you know, not everybody in your circles tried hard drugs or whatever. But and I voice it to people either I'm not like, oh fuck, hey, I've did this, but I'm still grateful that I did it, because I can, you know, have a conversation and just not be fucking blinded by it, right? Or just you know, I'm just aware of it.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, our group was always very accepting. Like, if anybody ever made a decision to do anything like as far as like you know, hey, I'm on the wagon, I'm not doing any of this stuff anymore we always were, like, please come and hang out, you won't have to deal with that at all. Nobody was ever pressured into doing anything. It was always you know a place of you know hanging out, having a good time. If all you want to do is drink, the drinks are over there. This room is for this. This room is for that. Stay out of this area of the house if you don't want no part of this nonsense. Like it was just you know, organized chaos, if you will. But everybody always respected everybody else's lane and nobody ever looked, nobody ever browed at anybody or anything like that, especially like, oh, you're good. Yeah, none of our people really ever said that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:At all.
Speaker 1:That's good, I love it. Okay, we're on your last song, you ready.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, let's do it.
Speaker 2:She is in love with herself. She likes the dog.
Speaker 1:Right Typo negative my blood type.
Speaker 2:I love Typo negative man For real, though, like I, I I my one regret is not being able to have gone to see them in concert, just because Peter Steele was a mountain among men and he would like I always loved the fact that he would his guitar strap was a fucking log chain and that's just, that's if there's. There's nothing more heavy metal than that at all Like, and it's not even really a super, super metal band. But like the dude was like six foot six or six foot eight and had a voice deeper than deeper than the Mariana Trench. I mean there's a song that they do on a different album called Nettie, highly recommend you look that up, just because of the fact that he starts the song off on like his lowest octave. That's crazy, disturbingly low.
Speaker 2:And that whole album, bloody Kisses. Just it's a really good album just on the face of it and then on top of that, like you know, there's all these things that you learn after the fact. Like the song Bloody Kisses is like this 10 minute song that's super, duper sad and makes you think about all these things that it could be about. But it's about this dude's cat that died and and like Christian Christian woman is probably my Christian Christian woman and Black Number One, which was the one that was just playing, are probably two of my favorites on that album, just because of the, just the way that they kind of play into one another. Christian woman has a total tempo change halfway through and then it goes into a different type of tempo change in between the two tracks really, really interesting.
Speaker 2:And there was a quote on the back of that album that says never mistake lack of talent for musical genius or artistic genius or something like that. And I always, I always thought about that, especially whenever somebody be like oh, check out this artist, they're so new and innovative and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and kind of look at it and you're like, is this really artistic talent or is this no talent? Yeah, but let's find out.
Speaker 1:Well, I so enjoyed our time together. Thank you so much for joining me today on Music Junkies, but before I let you go, as you know, do you have some words of wisdom from the audience today?
Speaker 2:Words of wisdom no matter what you think is actually the worst day of your life, it can always get worse. And just because you think you've reached the end of the line doesn't mean that there's an unlocked door just to your right. And a lot of people always use the cliche don't Choose a permanent solution for a temporary problem. But I look at it as why ask why, when how is so much more fun? All right, thank you so much again.
Speaker 1:I so appreciate it. Hope you had a good time. Hey man, I love you, appreciate it. Hope you had a good time hey man, I've got 30 other songs if you ever wanted to do this again. Absolutely. I love it.