Music Junkies Podcast

Karate Moves, Cruise Upgrades, and Acid Wash Jeans: with Jane and Deklan

February 19, 2024 Annette Smith / Jane and Deklan Season 3 Episode 30
Music Junkies Podcast
Karate Moves, Cruise Upgrades, and Acid Wash Jeans: with Jane and Deklan
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Ever found yourself gripping the steering wheel, with Eminem blasting through the speakers, as you navigate a snowstorm? That's just a sliver of what we unpack with Jane and Deklan from the brutal, bizarre, and boozy podcast on this episode of Music Junkies. Our conversation traverses the emotional landscapes music creates, from s Deklan's breakup ballads to our host's intense Eminem-fueled driving sessions. These tunes aren't just background noise; they're the soundtrack to our life's most gripping chapters.

Picture this: acid wash jeans, karate moves in the back of a truck, and Skid Row serenading a moonlit escapade. It's not a scene from a nostalgic sitcom; it's a snippet from our teenage years, which we dive into with laughter and a hint of embarrassment. The duo and I take a trip down memory lane, swapping stories about sneaky exits past curfew, the anthems of our rebellious youth, and the fashion missteps that we thought were so cool.

Wrapping up with a story fit for a holiday movie, we recount the surprise of a luxurious upgrade on a Norwegian cruise line. Imagine the glee of trading a balcony room for the exclusive Haven suite—and the joy of gifting that experience to a loved one. From spontaneous pre-Christmas Caribbean getaways to the sheer delight of making unforgettable memories, this episode is an invitation to reminisce and revel in the shared journeys that unite us all.


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Speaker 1:

Welcome everyone to Music Junkies, a podcast about people sharing extraordinary stories about how music has impacted their lives. Welcome everyone to Music Junkies. I'm your host, annette Smith, and our guests today are the host of the brutal, bizarre and boozy podcast. It's a family run show, right, which I love, right.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

You guys often cover nasty stories that may not be family friendly, from true crimes, some strange stories. I love that you guys throw a cocktail in there. That's really cool because we all like to drink. Super creative idea and absolutely love your podcast, so I love that you.

Speaker 2:

Thank you.

Speaker 1:

What do I say? Mother and son seems kind of like it's awesome, right. I wish I was going to start Music Junkies was actually with my daughter, but it just kind of ended up solo, so I appreciate that. So thank you for joining us today. Jane and Del, is it Declan? Is that correct?

Speaker 2:

Yep Declan.

Speaker 1:

Yes, perfect, and welcome to Music Junkies. So grateful to have you guys here.

Speaker 2:

Awesome. Thanks for having us. Thanks for having us.

Speaker 1:

You are welcome. So, declan, what was your experience putting your playlist together for me today?

Speaker 3:

I had a very tough time because I go through a lot of music. I don't really listen to one specific genre, I listen to just about everything, and so when I had to come up with songs that were tied to specific memories, it was kind of difficult for me because I go through so many songs and it was a lot. It was a very challenging question also because it's like there's a lot of things that go into, like one first of all favorite song I don't think really counts as having a specific memory tied to it, unless it's like I don't know. It was very challenging, that's all I'll say.

Speaker 1:

And how about you, Jane? What was your experience?

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm a lot older than Declan, so I had a lot of music to go through and try and find like. But again, for me too it was kind of hard to find some songs that had a specific memory, like there's a lot of songs I like that I liked for a long time, but not a specific memory to link to them. So I was trying to find something like, oh, this was, I remember this. And then I started going through and thinking, oh, I have a lot of songs actually that I have like weird memories to, so I tried to have. I kind of had to whittle them down a little bit a few times where I was like, oh, I'm going to do this one and this one and this one, and I'm like, yeah, nobody wants to hear that stupid story about how you drove around in a car for a couple hours and kept listening to the song over again.

Speaker 1:

You never know? True, you never know. Maybe they listened to the same song True. I have drove from Red Deer to Calgary, which is about two and a half hour drive, and listened to one Eminem song over and over and over, oh, okay. Because there was a crazy snowstorm and I was paranoid and I'm like the only thing that's going to keep me like on track, focused, white knuckling the steering wheel. It's like Eminem one song, one song. Yeah, I literally did that for two and a half hours.

Speaker 1:

But I made it home safe, right, but yeah, but you walked me the whole time. So yeah, you never know.

Speaker 2:

Do you still listen to that song? I do.

Speaker 1:

I do, but not a lot right, because it's like anything you listen to. That's why I hate listening to the radio, because I feel like it's just certain songs it's like, hey, led Zeppelin had 50 million albums. Do you think that we could listen to the other 900 songs that they have? Yeah, the only five songs that you ever played. That's why I hate that Right, because of that. Yeah, same song. Yeah, I'm excited to dive right in and, declan, you're up first. Are you ready for your first song?

Speaker 3:

Yes, I am. Great.

Speaker 1:

Here we go, I should call you on your phone.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I should call you on your cell phone. I should call you on your cell phone.

Speaker 1:

So you and your mom's music is very different. Obviously, yes, I think 80s girl, which I love. I'm an 80s girl too, yeah, so you're obviously new school, some gangster rap, which I appreciate. So tell me a little bit about why you love this story. Memory behind it.

Speaker 3:

Okay. So this actually reminds me a lot about the story you just told about the Eminem song. So it's a little different than that, but along the same lines. So I had just gone through a pretty bad breakup. We'd been dating for about three years at that point and so we were living together and I'd gone down to stay with my parents so we could just have some time apart, kind of figured things out, what we're going to do. And it was I was coming back up and I was just kind of upset over the whole situation. I this is going to sound crazy, but we had shared our location with each other and I had seen she was at someone's house the other night and like we had just been broken up for two days. So I was kind of upset.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And I put that song on and it's slightly emotional, it's kind of along the same lines, like the song is called WYA or when you At, by Wipefies Funeral, and it's along those lines. It's like hey, I'm here, you're gone, like where are you at? And it's about him waiting for the response to the where you at text. And so I put that on and I had a fairly sporty car at the time and the Claim of Falls to Eugene is about a three hour drive. It's over some mountains and stuff and I had put that song on like almost repeat. I listened to a couple other songs on the way, but it was playing for a majority of the drive and I made it from Eugene to Claim of Falls or from Claim of Falls to Eugene in about two hours. So it was a very yeah, it's fairly fast yeah.

Speaker 1:

Did you drive to the house?

Speaker 3:

I drove to our house. I didn't drive to their house because I wasn't sure and I was like what am I going to do? I'm not going to go and confront, it's just going to cause more problems. So it just kind of confirmed it for me and later that night I went up and stayed with my buddy instead of going back to the house.

Speaker 1:

So did you text her where you at?

Speaker 3:

I did yes.

Speaker 1:

And what did she say?

Speaker 3:

Didn't answer.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you got paid more restraint than me.

Speaker 1:

I would be fucking driving there. I'd be knocking on the door. Hey, just crazy. I'm going to get a little bit of a temper. I do too, but I can kind of know I'm really good at determining when it's a good time to use it or not, so it's like I didn't really feel like getting the relationship back together.

Speaker 3:

So it's like, whatever, it wasn't worth it to you, it wasn't worth it to me at all. I mean, I'm not going to be a good guy. I'm not going to be a good guy, I'm not going to be a good guy.

Speaker 2:

I'm not going to be a good guy.

Speaker 3:

It wasn't worth it to me at all. It's just like I could go in there because of big fit. Like I just decided to let it go.

Speaker 1:

Good for you, good for you. Yeah, I'm proud of you. That's amazing. Again, I would not be, especially if we just broke up, maybe back in the day.

Speaker 3:

I think it was either two or three days that we had broken up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah see, you're very good. I made that drive back. So I was just like, especially if I drove all that way, getting myself hyped up listening to gangster rap, there might be a scene.

Speaker 3:

Oh, worst part, I forgot to mention this. We lived in a house with a couple other people and when I got back, someone had obviously slept in my bed and left food in my bed, and there was a concerning amount of ants in my bed, so much to the fact that I just picked up the whole blanket that the ants run and threw it away.

Speaker 3:

I didn't even bother with trying to clean it, because I have a big fear of ants. So I was just like, oh yeah, so that was another thing that was fun to come home to.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

She was crazy.

Speaker 1:

So you obviously that relationship did not last. You moved on. She tried to come back into your life.

Speaker 3:

No, I made it very clear, that wasn't impossible.

Speaker 1:

I love it.

Speaker 3:

She tried to talk to me, like while we were still living together. She was trying to talk to me while she was moving some of her stuff out and I just I gave her like very clear answers Like it's like, oh, do you want this or this? I'm like no, take it and then close the door interface. So I made it very clear I didn't want to do with it.

Speaker 1:

I love it. All right, jane, this is you. You're up, okay.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I can't hear it.

Speaker 1:

The animal deaf leopard. Oh okay, you couldn't hear it. I couldn't hear it. I could hear you.

Speaker 2:

Neither of you guys.

Speaker 1:

Oh really, that's strange, because it's sharing.

Speaker 2:

Crazy.

Speaker 1:

Let's try again. No.

Speaker 3:

I've heard like a little. It didn't like. I heard like some weird feedback, but I could hear something.

Speaker 2:

I could hear Declan's song, but I couldn't hear mine at all.

Speaker 1:

Oh weird.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, interesting. I didn't recognize his song, though, but I didn't expect to either.

Speaker 1:

Anyways, it was deaf leopard animal.

Speaker 2:

Gotcha. Okay, well, that was the first song that got me switching from like pop music into more rock music and that my first like serious boyfriend introduced me to deaf leopard and we used to at the time MTV back when they did music and not all the other garbage they had their like top 10 videos of the week and my boyfriend and I used to sit and watch it. An animal was like at the top of the list for weeks and weeks and weeks and we just listened to that and just reminded me a lot of you know, switching my music genre and I'm really thankful that I did switch my music genre and I wasn't stuck in the Madonna and pop girl type stuff.

Speaker 1:

What were you like in high school? What kind of girl were you in high school? I was a cheerleader.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So the school that I went to, cheerleaders were not respected. We were like the you couldn't be an athlete, so you decided to be a cheerleader and a lot of people made fun of them and it wasn't. You know. I know that Now some of the bigger schools have huge cheerleading squads and they're considered athletes. We were not considered athletes. We were the nerdy girls that wanted to show off or something I don't know. But a small group of friends really tried to do good in school and was pretty much a goody two shoes for the most part.

Speaker 1:

So my parents thought what's something that you did that your parents never caught you doing in high school?

Speaker 2:

Oh, I snuck out of the house all the time, did you?

Speaker 1:

I was in a big window, or like was it a big ordeal to be able to sneak out.

Speaker 2:

No, it was super easy. My parents room was on the other end of the house for me and all I had to do was go out my bedroom door through the laundry room and I was outside. They knew, never, got caught, did all sorts of crazy things that you know 16, 17 year olds do, and midnight when they sneak out of the house, you know.

Speaker 1:

Declan, did you sneak out of the house?

Speaker 3:

I think only two times. They made it very hard for me because they had alarms on all the windows. I was able to take one alarm off of my bathroom window and that's how I snuck out.

Speaker 2:

Which we never would have thought that you could have fit through that bathroom window, so you must have like buttered yourself up to get through it because I was a tiny window.

Speaker 3:

If you notice, there was an orange bucket outside and that's.

Speaker 2:

No, of course I didn't notice that.

Speaker 3:

It was like it was probably five feet off the ground. It was a pretty high up window so I had to put a bucket under to get it back in.

Speaker 1:

We had a steep roof like this and then kind of a level like this and the windows were not very big and they pushed out like this and my parents room was right beside my room. It's only two bedroom upstairs, super old house, so like creaky, like when you walked you could hear the windows move. So I would snuck out so many times out of this window that literally if you opened it up and just fall right off the thing. So you had to kind of remember it.

Speaker 1:

So then I'd have to slide down, jump off the carport and then go, do all the bad things that I wanted to do and then come back in that way, climb up. When that window finally broke, we had to go up and around and try to get into the under. It was really bad. Oh my gosh, I knew I was caught. My mom would just leave the light on and I would just open the front door.

Speaker 2:

I was like I'm already caught. That was nice that she left the light on. She's like just come in, it's fine. Whatever, you know when you get home.

Speaker 3:

Just get back home, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's right. Yeah, it's crazy All the things that you did when you were growing up, trying to get, trying to get away with it. Oh yeah, your parents did it too, which is just Yep. All right, let's go to the next song.

Speaker 3:

Oh, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh, when I was young, or was it young?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, when I was young with a by young pinch, so that was, that was when my parents went on a cruise. It was, I believe it was, ship rocked.

Speaker 2:

They're very ship rocked Okay.

Speaker 3:

So I was.

Speaker 2:

We left you at home alone.

Speaker 3:

I was probably what? 16, 17. Probably 16. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You would have been 16 because we went in 2017. So not quite yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so I was 16. They were gone for I think it was five, three or five days, something like that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was close to a week.

Speaker 3:

I had just discovered that song at that point and I invited a girl over and we were drinking some of the alcohol they had and we were smoking some weed and she ended up staying the night and that song played a lot during that night so it was like burned into my brain, that's funny.

Speaker 2:

Which girl was that?

Speaker 3:

That was Caitlin.

Speaker 2:

Caitlin Okay.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Nice you ever sneak any girls into your room when your parents were home.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I want to know the answer to this. No, you having girls over.

Speaker 1:

No, so you didn't have to sneak them in.

Speaker 3:

Not usually, I mean, I know usually like the point where I was spending the night or girls would spend the night. They were. I was old enough where they were okay with it. I pretended like I was staying at someone else's house, but they told me that they knew so.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah, he would tell us all the time, hey, I'm going to spend the night at my guy friend's house. And after that happened like three or four times, we were like he's dating that friend's step sister. Oh, okay, yeah, we knew that we're and we did ask him where when he got older and moved out and we were like you know, we totally knew, and you didn't, you know we. He was like you knew, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like I said, you think that you are sneaking something, but your parents, oh yeah, that same thing, right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you can't hide it.

Speaker 1:

So did you have like a little you know, for me, when I had boys over when I was younger, and obviously if we were kissing or doing something, did you have something against the door? Did you have a lock inside your door? Did you have like something where you're like, okay, I can hear them, like where you like? For me, I was really prone to the stairs. Like the stairs walk right into my room, so I would know if they were walking up the stairs and if I had to, like put my shirt back on or something like that.

Speaker 3:

I had the only room downstairs.

Speaker 1:

Oh here we are.

Speaker 3:

So the house is fairly old but it's very creaky so you can tell when someone's coming downstairs. And at the very end of a long hallway so you can tell you got enough like at least 15 seconds to figure something out.

Speaker 1:

That's right, I love it. All right, jane, I'm hoping that you can hear this. If not, I'll help you, okay.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

I remember you guys. I just bought their tickets to go to their concert there on March. Really, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh. So is it going to be with Sebastian boxing? Yeah?

Speaker 1:

Have you seen him? He's like not Sebastian that you remember.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I saw his new video that came out fairly recently and I saw that there was some discussion of them getting the band back together and having a tour. But that was just a couple of weeks ago, I thought, so I didn't know that there was going to be a tour. So now I have to go look because maybe 10 years ago there was something in town that was put together and they said that Skid Row was going to be playing at this outdoor venue. We don't have an outdoor venue anyway, so it was weird the location that they were having this concert. I was super excited because I have loved Skid Row forever and when they we went to the concert and I realized very quickly that it was not Sebastian boxinging and it was just like two guys, I think from the original band. My husband and I left in the middle of it because I was like this is terrible, it doesn't sound like them at all, this is trash. So we left.

Speaker 2:

But the story behind the my Love for Skid Row and that song was when I was 16, I was working at a pizza parlor and my manager was this guy that I had had to crush on for years and one of the nights I snuck out of the house, we went with him and a buddy got in his buddy's truck and drove up to one of the hills around here and we just listened to that first Skid Row album over and over on repeat, for I don't know, it seemed like hours, probably wasn't that long and his buddy was standing. His buddy was in karate, his dad was like a black belt and he was learning karate, his buddy was in the back bed of the truck doing his karate moves, while the guy I was dating and had the crush on were in the cab of the truck making out doing what teenagers do while they're listening to the music. And we just listened to that thing on repeat, for seemed like forever.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was going to ask you, just sitting there listening to music on the top of a hill in a truck, that there's holes in this story.

Speaker 2:

There was more going on.

Speaker 1:

Declan's like oh my God mom, do you have to pick these songs that you're making out all the time?

Speaker 3:

You're laughing about the. The funny in the back is the one.

Speaker 2:

You know, both parts of it are memorable but they add to each other, like the fact that we were just. You know, because when you're a teenager and you're worried, I would assume I don't know, I haven't made out with somebody new in a very long time but you kind of lose the sense of like what's socially appropriate, just so you can do that thing that you're doing. So I mean, if it were me today, I don't think I would be making out in the car in front of a bunch of other people that were just like trying to entertain us.

Speaker 1:

That's what we did, right, it was fully acceptable.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. I think I can't remember all of the songs off the top of my head in the stories, but hopefully that might be the last one where I was making out with somebody, maybe. I hope not. I hope there's more. Did you make out with everybody?

Speaker 1:

What kind of posters did you have on your wall, Jane, when you were growing up?

Speaker 2:

I had Def Leppard, for sure, and Dawkins. Those were the two that I had.

Speaker 3:

What was your first?

Speaker 2:

A few Miami Vice posters too, because I was big into Miami Vice back in the day.

Speaker 1:

What was your favorite thing to wear from the 80s?

Speaker 2:

Probably the acid wash jeans. Yes, yeah. I had acid wash jeans, and I had white leather boots that had fringe on them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you did, of course. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, did you ever have those jeans Like maybe it was more than 90s, but they had the lock on them?

Speaker 3:

No, I didn't have those.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they had a lock and then you could just have the key. You put it in your pocket. What an awful invention because it was like literally a lock, like a little tiny.

Speaker 1:

I have to go to pee right now, and then you would be like where the hell's the key, yeah, and then you have this stupid lock on your pants and then do you I don't know, maybe they're not called that in the in the US, but in Canada we call them bubble gum jeans, where they were like this big, like super skinny, but like they stretched, like you would not believe. Oh, yeah, yeah, you could call them bubble gum jeans. They were with acid wash. How about you? You were born in, you grew up in kind of the 2000s, is that okay? So what kind of? What was kind of your favorite thing? You wish that was around still.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, gosh, that's tough.

Speaker 1:

Maybe a little bit different, just because in the 80s we had so many different types of clothes and you know companies like Chip and Pepper and Varney and all of these stuff that aren't around anymore. That one wasn't really into like specific clothing.

Speaker 2:

You were just like Right.

Speaker 1:

I was like I'm a good eating clothes.

Speaker 3:

I got super into clothes in high school and now I've turned into just like a white tee. I like shoes. I really like shoes.

Speaker 1:

He's the shoe guy, jordan ones, jordan's all Jordan, jordan, everything.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I like. Jordan's, and then just like a plain tee shirt and some like nice pants. Good.

Speaker 1:

You're so pretty, I love it.

Speaker 3:

I love it Do you guys, I like cool hats.

Speaker 1:

Did you have a nickname growing up, declan?

Speaker 3:

Declan, that's about it.

Speaker 1:

I think, how about you Janey? Yeah, Any names.

Speaker 2:

I did have a nickname growing up that my family gave me, and that was well. I had two I have my opinion larger ears and, according to my siblings, very large ears, and they called me mouse for a long time. And then, as I got a little older, they started calling me short, because I'm not the tallest person, but I'm certainly not the shortest in my family, which is kind of ironic. How tall are you? Five three.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I'm five, two and a half.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's why they called me short.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. We're fine.

Speaker 1:

We're totally fine. Yeah, I agree. All right, declan you ready? This is your song. I wake up every evening with a big smile on my face and it never feels out of place. Steve's you hell. That's a great song. I haven't heard that song for a long time.

Speaker 3:

This is a memory that involves both of us. Yeah, we had just moved from California back to claim the falls. We were doing furniture shopping and that song I think it came on the radio or something.

Speaker 2:

Probably.

Speaker 3:

But as soon as I heard it it caught my ear and I was what? Seven at the time.

Speaker 2:

Six or seven yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so we're walking around the furniture stores. I'm singing it in my head, but I was such a little like good, two shoes, kid that I You're a good boy. And I asked her. I was like, is it okay if I sing that song in my head because it has the word hell in it? I wasn't even saying it out loud, I was just singing it in my head. My mom was like, yeah, do whatever, that's fine.

Speaker 1:

Do you have a favorite family vacation or a memory that sticks out for you?

Speaker 3:

Yes, it wasn't until I graduated high school, but we went on a cruise, a Mediterranean cruise. That was great. That was a good trip, that was really great. Just the food, the food alone, is what did it for me. Yeah, I'm a big foodie and that was definitely worth it, just for the food alone.

Speaker 1:

I'm a big foodie too. How about you, jane? Is there a holiday or a memory or a trip that's been one of your favorites, with you and your family?

Speaker 2:

I love that. The European cruise was amazing, but we've done a lot of cruises together as a family and those always stand out to me, I think, one of the best. We took a cruise on Norwegian cruise line and right before we were supposed to leave, just a few days before, they called us and asked us if we wanted to upgrade. We had an outside room and it had a balcony, but they asked us if we wanted to upgrade to the Haven, which, if you've ever been on an NCL cruise, the Haven is not on every ship, it's only on certain ones and it is like the top tier, best rooms. You have a concierge, it's a suite. No, you have a butler. You had a butler, we had a butler and a concierge. It pooled for just the people in the Haven private restaurant, private bar there's a separate check-in process. They take you into the ship in a different manner than all the rest of the people.

Speaker 2:

We didn't tell him that we were going to do this, the cruise that we had been on previously. He and I were just walking around the cruise and we snuck into the Haven because somebody had left the door open. We walked in and we're looking around like holy shit, this place is really fancy, like its own pool, its own jacuzzi. It's amazing. When we got done sneaking around, we told my husband about it and he's like, oh man, that's super cool. Then, when we got the opportunity to do it ourselves, we didn't tell him it was just fun. We always tried to surprise him with really cool stuff. I think that was a pretty big surprise because that looks crazy.

Speaker 2:

What would have been just one single room for us and two separate beds, him sleeping on a bunk bed. He got his very own room, his very own bathroom. There was a living room, there was a balcony, there was a separate master suite with his own bathroom. So we really got to do it up for him.

Speaker 3:

He was nice to the most hotels. Oh for sure it was on a boat. It was really cool yeah.

Speaker 2:

It was amazing.

Speaker 1:

I love that. We've only cruised once and we did a surprise. We woke them up in the middle of the day it was probably a week before Christmas Woke them up and back in the day with those massive cameras with the light, so you're getting blinded when you're being woken up. That was cold video tape. Then we jumped on a plane. We went to Miami for a couple of days and then we jumped on a cruise ship and did St Thomas, st Bart's, bahamas, nice. Then we went back to Miami and then we went and spent New Year's in Key West Unreal.

Speaker 1:

Unreal time they were at a perfect age that the 16-year-old plus club was really cool for them. They got to go and do all of that stuff. We told my son when we were in the Bahamas just go in that liquor store and get your mama six packs. See if they'll sell you a six pack. He came out Nice. He's like I got you a six pack. That is awesome. He was all over that, that's cool.

Speaker 2:

That's cool.

Speaker 1:

Cruising is fun. We did that one with the family and then we did Alaska before. Other than that, everything there is fun. My husband gets seasick so bad and I love to fish. I grew up fishing my whole life. Anytime we travel I want to go fishing. I take the whole family and they puke for hours. I get to fish, but they do it for me because I do what your mom does. I get all this nice expensive stuff where they can go and enjoy that.

Speaker 2:

They can let me. It's nice.

Speaker 1:

I love it for sure. What's one thing, Declan, that your mom has taught you growing up?

Speaker 3:

I'd say she's taught me a lot of empathy. I'm a very empathetic person and I think that's a very important trait to have. Nowadays I don't see a lot of other people with empathy like we have, and I value that a lot.

Speaker 2:

I would say that was intrinsic in you, though I didn't teach you that. You've always been that way. Even when you were little two, three years old you were very empathetic to other people and animals and other things. So that's always been in you. What about you, g?

Speaker 1:

I'll take the credit. That is the thing, one thing that Declan's taught you as a mother.

Speaker 2:

Question. He's taught me that things work out. You know, growing up, my family was very regimented. This is how we act, this is what we do, this is how we act, and I tried to put a little bit of that on him as he was growing up and then realizing we don't have to act that way and it's all going to work out, even if we don't act that way and we don't do the things that everyone says you should and this is how you should be acting, you know. So, just having him be the person that he is and seeing that, ok, we can go with the flow on this and it's going to be OK, and that's everything is going to work out just fine.

Speaker 1:

I love that you said that this morning. I'm reading this. It's like 360 days of just kind of like a little passage. It's not like a God book, but it's like an affirmation, in a sense, that just kind of goes through. This is what you need to focus on today, and one of the things that it said today is that you'll never fail. Like, no matter what, you're never going to fail. You're going to learn. Maybe it's going to take you longer, whatever it is. So that's really cool that you shared that, because it's very similar to this that you like just reading that today, which is so true You're never going to fail. Maybe, if that's what you're not supposed to do, it doesn't mean you failed at it. You realize, maybe years and years down the road, but still you didn't fail.

Speaker 1:

It's not like you're just accepting what's going on, Such good at it. It's like my son. He's so philosophist too. My husband and I were getting married and he sat me down and he's like I'm just so proud of you. I'm like what is happening? Wow, it's getting married. I'm getting married, Not you so crazy. All right, Jane, next song I'll come up to you if you don't hear it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I can tell David Lee Murphy.

Speaker 1:

That's on the bomb.

Speaker 2:

So another guy is attached to this, but we weren't making out. But this one is my husband. So when we first started dating, I'm the rock girl Listened to rock music. For a long time he was a country music boy and the night that I first heard this song, never heard it before in my life.

Speaker 2:

My husband, declan's dad, drunk as could be, and for some reason I don't know, we were at a bowling alley with his friends and this song came on. I was so annoyed with him because he was drunk and I was sober and I'm like, why are we here? I'm not enjoying this, this is not fun. And he started singing that song to me and he thought he was hilarious. He thought it was the best thing that he'd ever done. He doesn't sing, he's not a singer, but he was singing that song to me and I'm just sitting there like why are we here? This is so boring. And then he had to go and act that song. He thinks it's a great memory. He's like, oh, I sang to you. And I'm like, yeah, I was pissed at you, though.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of being around my husband when he drinks and I'm sober either- no.

Speaker 2:

I used to be able to.

Speaker 1:

But after 24 years I'm like, I'm good Like.

Speaker 3:

I don't.

Speaker 1:

I'm not 18 anymore. I need to go drink rye somewhere else. It's irritating, Right, Right. Do you guys have any pet peeves Like Jane? Do you have any pet peeves?

Speaker 2:

So many Too many pet peeves, give me two. Oh gosh. People that drive slow in front of me, yes, stop it, just get out of the way, agree. And I would say I get really frustrated with people who get caught up in their own drama but don't realize that they're creating it and like to tell you oh, I really I hate drama and I'm like well then, stop causing it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, that's a good one, that's a really good one. I experienced that one the other day which it's like somebody's telling you a story and they're telling you what they're doing and you're like, wow, that's going to create like 15 more nightmares for you, but that's awesome, good for you. Yeah, yep, how about yourself, declan? Any pet peeves, things that drive you crazy?

Speaker 3:

I'd say people that stop and take up too much space at the grocery store, like they park their cart in a weird way and then they just stop and look and they're blocking the whole aisle. That's a big one for me. And then I'd say people that don't take accountability for problems that they cause.

Speaker 1:

I love that.

Speaker 3:

That's a big one.

Speaker 1:

That is a big one for sure. Walk me through your guys' podcast. How did it get started? Where did the name come from? How did you guys make a decision to do it together? Go for it bud.

Speaker 3:

So we both like true crime and things that are kind of bizarre, like UFO stories and ghost stories and things like that, and we listen to podcasts and catch each other like telling the full story of it to each other just like over the phone or something, and we're like we can just record this. And we both like to drink. So we're like let's kind of combine everything, find a cool little cocktail that goes with our story, and we'll come up with two stories every week. So we do one brutal, which is usually true crime, and then one bizarre, which can be. We've had almost everything. We've got bank heists, we've got ghosts, ufos, bigfoot, anything. That's kind of just like a weird story or something that we find interesting. We'll throw that in there. And we always end our podcast with a chaser, which is like just a happy news story or maybe a movie recommendation. That kind of clears the palate after hearing a very brutal true crime story, because we can get kind of dark sometimes on our podcast.

Speaker 2:

Some of those true crime stories just get out of control and it's like I don't want to listen to anything more about this horrible person. So let's change the direction and talk about something entertaining, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I get quite addicted to that kind of stuff too and I never like it's. When I graduated I skipped grade 9 and 10. And I was able to do that. If I wrote a thesis on something, and I did it on Spirit and I did it on Serial Killers Like I was kind of obsessed with this whole realm for a long time and so I did that, and then it kind of like escaped me for a long time. Like I like documentaries, I like kind of like weird, the football team is going down bad traits or whatever the situation. Like I'll watch those types of documentaries. It's always very fascinating. And then when we were in Nova Scotia and we had some downtime, there was a true crime story on I'm not even sure we sat there for eight hours Like I. Just I was like, let's watch another.

Speaker 2:

I could stop watching.

Speaker 1:

I was like this is insane, like it was definitely the husband and he used a hammer, like it's so obvious.

Speaker 3:

Like why don't we?

Speaker 1:

like, just get to the point, or you know what I mean. I kind of fell back in love with it. So I love your guys's podcast because it again it doesn't have to be eight hours, which is good, but it's really interesting stories. So I love the way you guys do your podcasts. It's really cool. Oh, thank you Great too, so it's awesome. So I'm assuming, but correct me if I'm wrong. Where are you guys located? How can we stalk you and find you and all of that kind of stuff?

Speaker 2:

We're on all of the major podcasting platforms. We're on Instagram, we're on Facebook, we post on there regularly so, and we interact with people. So if anybody wants to make a story suggestion or a drink suggestion, sometimes we'll pick our drink first and then find a story to go with it. Declan tends to pick his stories and then find a drink, but I've done a little bit of both. Most of the time I pick the story and then I go looking for a drink, but there's a few times where I've found a drink first and said I really want to do this, and then I got to go find something that kind of links back to it, because with every drink we try and link it to whichever story we're ourselves telling. So and that could be the brutal or the bizarre or whatever. We alternate, so you know people want to reach out to us and tell us fun stuff. Then we're happy to meet new friends.

Speaker 1:

Have you guys did something as simple as just a beer.

Speaker 2:

No we did a tequila shop. That was the simplest one that we've done. We've we've done some really good drinks that I was surprised I liked, and then other ones that I knew were going to be bad, and they were terrible.

Speaker 1:

Hello Jane, we're going to do another one of your songs just because you have more than deckland. Ok, ready, ok yeah. One, note One's under the bed when you need them the most.

Speaker 2:

Oh, bad day that the.

Speaker 2:

This is yeah, deckland was about four or so. We were living in California and we had to drive around a lot between where I was going to school and taking him to school and where we lived, and so there was a little bit of a commute and we listen to music all the time. That was just what we did on our car rides and this song came on, and when it was over he goes. I understand this song, because sometimes I have a bad day too. He was so little I just didn't even it didn't occur to me that he would be listening to it that much, and it was just such a sweet thing for him to say out of nowhere.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, that's awesome. Declan, do you have any hidden talents?

Speaker 3:

I'm a mean chef.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I know how to whip it up in the kitchen.

Speaker 1:

What's your favorite meal to cook? A girl, a lady- A girl Hmm. Or a boy, I don't know, like.

Speaker 3:

I don't want to serve you. If I had to cook like a light meal for a lady, I'd cook a a lemon garlic shrimp pasta probably. Nice, I love that, and it's a lighter meal.

Speaker 1:

It's not super dense, so Right, when I met my husband, he was a chef and I like it. Literally, I'm like, ok, so I don't know, here, here's something. And, jane, I don't know if you're the same, so you have to let me know. But when you're busy amongst your day doing whatever I know, when I'm busy amongst my day doing my stuff, my husband comes up with these great ideas like, hey, we should make an awesome meal, and all I'm thinking about it. Yes, that's awesome, let's do that. And then I think, hey, I got to do all of this shit today, and one of them was my taxes. I'm a financial advisor. I had to do a stupid course today before this awesome podcast. I had to do the podcast.

Speaker 1:

So, in my mind, I'm like I'm freaking busy. If you want to make something, I'm in my thought process. You go to the store, right, you go to the store, but he loves to include me in everything. I'm like, hey, I go downstairs, right before you guys pop on. I go are you going to go to the store while, like, I'm doing the podcast? And he's like, well, I guess, I'm like that would be amazing. Right, like this is something I don't need to be a part of, but he is making, and he makes the best. He's such a good cook, but he can't really eat that much red meat but I so I've been like depriving myself of red meat. So he's like why don't?

Speaker 1:

I make this steak and we'll be like a cream sauce with crab and shrimp and it does a sauce that I'm like that's how he got me, like when we were dating, like 24 years ago, we made this like shrimp, like crab cluster fuck of such goodness. And I'm like, yes, so I love that you pick, like seafood and pasta and yes, so good, good choice, good choice.

Speaker 2:

And go do stuff on your own.

Speaker 1:

You don't need to bring your girlfriend with you all the time.

Speaker 3:

Exactly yeah, I prefer shopping alone. I don't like shopping with other people. Oh, I hate shopping. I want to get in there and out as soon as possible.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know I, yeah, I'm the same way and like I don't even go shopping with women on clothes or anything, because like I'm a brow shop, like I just kind of look like this yeah, no, I don't need to go in there, that's why I mean with girls myself. I'd be like I just. I do not want to go in there. Why? I know I'm not going in there. No, nothing's standing out at me. That bad yeah.

Speaker 3:

I'm good with the Kirkland white tea, that's it.

Speaker 1:

That's right. Hey, declan, we're on your last song, you ready?

Speaker 3:

Yep, do it.

Speaker 1:

I got a story to tell you know that I cherish these over the two many feelings in life, Lisa Wayne right. Who doesn't love little Wayne?

Speaker 3:

Yes, so I'm a big fan of little Wayne, but he there was a while where he couldn't. He was trapped in a label deal and so he wasn't able to release any music and that was the first album he had released in a couple years. And it was my senior year at high school and I had taken some college classes while I was like going through high school. So I had five periods Out of seven, because my school we did seven periods a day, and so I had five, two of which were tutor and teacher aid classes.

Speaker 3:

So I really had three classes that I had to actually go to and I had them all in the morning. So I'd end up skipping a lot of my classes because I was. I picked the teachers that liked me the most and I'd be like I'd stop in as soon as the class started and be like, hey, do you need me today? And then it'd be like, no, you can do whatever and I just go home. So that song came out right when I started my senior year and I listened to that whole album. That's pretty much all I listened to for the first semester or two of my senior year.

Speaker 1:

Oh wow.

Speaker 3:

So that whole album has pretty much the same memory for me. But that's my favorite song off that album.

Speaker 1:

Did you have a big struggle in high school? Like, if you think of high school, what was your biggest struggle?

Speaker 3:

I didn't like it.

Speaker 2:

Going to class.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I fought going to class a lot and it I just really did not like high school. So the whole thing was a struggle for me, and I'm sure it was a struggle for my mom trying to make me go, because, yes, the I remember I think it was my sophomore year of high school I had 160 unexcused absences.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's quite a few yeah.

Speaker 3:

But I graduated and I think that was the year that I had the best grades. If I'm being honest, I think I had the A's and B's during that year, yeah your senior year you did pretty well.

Speaker 2:

Your freshman and sophomore year you really didn't want to go to school and you hated it and it was tough.

Speaker 3:

But to be fair, my school, be fair Was a trailer park and so it was really easy to just walk out, just go straight to the parking lot. It was that school was a disaster.

Speaker 1:

What did you do in the park? Like smoke.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, sometimes I or I just drive home. If I was going to skip, I'm going to go home probably. Yeah, just kind of sit on campus and whatnot. But yeah, how?

Speaker 1:

about you, Jane. What's one struggle that you had in high school? What was your biggest struggle High school? Oh, gosh.

Speaker 2:

You know, school was weird for me because my parents were very, you know, I had to be the good girl and I had to get the good grades and I had to, you know, do the extra curriculars and even though they didn't really want to be involved, they just wanted to, you know, be able to say, oh, jane did really good in school, and here's her report card and that. And so I learned that I just had to do what. You know, I had to be the perfectionist, and that takes a toll on you after a while, when you're like everything has to be perfect all the time. Yeah, I agree so, but high school itself wasn't a thing for me. I didn't. I didn't like it or dislike it, or it was fine.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was excited to skip. I went a lot, but I think my biggest hurdle was was I wasn't gaining any value and they didn't see that in grade nine. And then they found out maybe this girl is smarter than we think she is. So when I got opportunities to skip some grades, that is when I excelled because I felt heard and I felt like, okay, I'm interested in something, yeah, and then they were peeking my interest and I think that's the probably the downfall of school. It's like you got to fit into, like you know, this little tiny box. If you don't, if you're outside of that box, then you know you're a problem child or you're. You know you don't pay, whatever the situation is right. And I felt like our school was like that. Until you know, I had great teachers that seen that in me, which I was grateful for, but not forever, right yeah.

Speaker 1:

Which was really really hard for me, for sure, yeah.

Speaker 3:

We're on your last song, last song, okay.

Speaker 1:

Are you ready? Yep, so good, so good.

Speaker 2:

So Papa Roach, Papa Roach, my favorite band I love them, I love everything that they've put out, I mean even when they're they put a new album out and I listened to a song on it and I'm like you guys missed it on this song.

Speaker 2:

If I go back and hear it a couple of weeks later I'm like, oh no, this is actually a really great song. And I it's happened over and over again where I'll hear something from them and go I don't know if I like this one. And I hear it again later and I'm like, nope, this is a kick ass song, I really do like it. So that was a great song. Nope, this is a kick ass song, I really do like it. So that one in particular, that that was the first that song in particular I went to. It wasn't, it was actually, it was my first Papa Roach concert.

Speaker 2:

I've been to several of them and my husband didn't want to go and his good friend lived it was up in Portland, oregon, and his best friend and and the friend's wife live up there and and my husband said, hey, maybe you should take Don with you. You know he didn't want me going by myself, but he knew I really, really wanted to go. And he's like, why don't you take Don with you? See if he can go? And Don went with me. Don's a firefighter, bigger guy, you know, really pays attention to everything because he's, you know, in first responder world all the time.

Speaker 2:

And that song came on and it was I'd never been at that kind of a rock concert before where there was a circle pit. And they, jacoby, said, all right, we're going to do it and there's going to be a circle pit and whatever it was that he said, and Don and I were kind of standing towards the back and the pit was more at the front and Don was pushing me into it and Don's, you know, like six foot muscular firefighter, he's pushing me into it and then would see if somebody was getting too close to me. He pulled me back out. I did not want to be in the circle pit. I don't need to be in a mosh pit. I'm not a big person not able to really defend myself against six foot tall guys that you know weigh 300 pounds.

Speaker 2:

That are you know crashing into each other Right, swinging on each other, whatever, and so he thought it was really funny to just push me in and pull me out, and push me in and pull me out, so that I was like in it but not in it, and then if I got too close to somebody he'd pull me out more. My very first and only mosh pit that I've ever been against my will. I will say against my will.

Speaker 1:

Have you guys been to a concert together? We have.

Speaker 2:

What concerts. We went to gosh. You were probably 10, maybe 11. Somewhere in that range. We went to see Three Days Grace, buck, cherry and Nickelback.

Speaker 3:

Nice yeah, we went to yeah we went to a maroon five concert some country yeah concert. That was too young to remember know there's a picture of the next to.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, chris Cagle, you were there. Buck.

Speaker 1:

Cherry's. Oh, oh, really nice, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's kind of crazy and I remember that when we took you to that Buck Cherry concert I thought holy crap, I am like the worst mom in the world that I am exposing my young, impressionable son to Buck Cherry and Crazy Bitch and all the songs.

Speaker 3:

Well, you did a good job.

Speaker 1:

I felt like that. My daughter wanted to go see Kesha and she was 13. And so anytime we went to concerts I always get like the first five rows. I got like third row and LMFAO opened up. That is a bad mom. There was a big sly in everywhere. I literally fell my husband. I'm like there's so much cock in the front row I don't even know what to do right now.

Speaker 2:

I take her out of here Like it was so out of control.

Speaker 1:

And then Kesha, just like blow up guy dressed as a penis and like nailed him to a cross and she was kicking him. I was like, oh my God.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

Insane, insane yeah.

Speaker 3:

That's funny.

Speaker 1:

So that is like a concert we will never forget. There was so much dick there. I was just like this is a lot. I don't even know what to do, like I was, so terrified.

Speaker 2:

But then I looked around.

Speaker 1:

I'm like there's tons of kids here, Like there's so many kids here yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so insane. That's a fair show.

Speaker 1:

Anyways well, declan and Jane, thank you so much for joining me today on music junkies. I hope you had a blast, but before I let you go I want to hear some words of wisdom from both of you. So, declan will have you go first, and then, jane, you can go right after, okay, Words of wisdom.

Speaker 2:

Let's go, declan.

Speaker 3:

So I'm going to bring it back old school, yes, my elementary school, roosevelt Elementary, shout out. We had three rules, and one of our rules was called the golden rule, and that's treat other people how you want to be treated.

Speaker 1:

That's great rule.

Speaker 2:

I like that.

Speaker 1:

I like it too, it's nice, I think more people need to see that we're in this crazy room right now where it's like, yeah, I don't even know where the hell it's even going, I mean, and I feel like people are all over the place, and that is one thing that's just lacking. Sure, yeah, and how about you, jane? What are your words of wisdom?

Speaker 2:

I would say that it's really important for everyone to you know it's easy to go back and say, oh gosh, I really wish this hadn't happened to me, or this bad thing happened to me and it and let it ruin your life, or think about how, if I could go back in time, I would change these things that happened to me. But it's important to remember that all those things that happened to you led you to who you are today and if you like who you are, then you have to accept those things and learn from them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's great words of wisdom. I'm a huge believer in that. I know a lot of people say you know, like I could easily be a victim of that, like both of my parents were addicts and on all of that kind of stuff. So it's very easy for people to get so fixated on that type of stuff, where they had, you know, a hard upbringing or whatever the situation is, or they go through hard times in high school or whatever it is. But really what they don't understand is that without going through that kind of stuff, maybe you wouldn't be the person that you are to be able. I'm always a big believer that whether you believe in God or not, God gives you what you can handle right. So I know we say that all the time because I've been through so much and I have a. Like.

Speaker 1:

One of my great friends has a child with Down syndrome and I say this to her all the time. I said there's no possible way that I could have ever had a child that had Down syndrome and she'd say, oh yeah, you get, you would. I'd like, nope, no way. There's no way I can do with addict parents can do with the Down syndrome child. I just can't. I just know I could not do that, I do not have the patience for that, I don't have that much patience right and just watching it. So it's just insane to watch. Like I admire her so much because that's a part that I don't have, but yeah, when he looks at me she doesn't. She says I admire that strength that you have, that you're like real and upfront and that's what that created for you. So it's really cool. That's really good words of wisdom. Both of you are amazing, Wow, Impressive.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, but again.

Speaker 1:

I thank you so much for joining us today on Music Junkies. We will make sure that we like, subscribe, follow all of your guys's content out there. Thank you, love it yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, awesome. Thanks again for having us. This was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that was a blast.

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