Music Junkies Podcast

Ice, Beats, and Chuckles: with Lori "ICE" Fetrick from American Gladiators

February 26, 2024 Annette Smith / Lori Fetrick Season 3 Episode 31
Music Junkies Podcast
Ice, Beats, and Chuckles: with Lori "ICE" Fetrick from American Gladiators
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Ever found yourself lost in the beats of your childhood, each song a thread in the tapestry of your memory? Lori Fetrick 'Ice' from American Gladiators joins me, Annette Smith, for a session that's as much a concert of nostalgia as it is a symposium on the sheer force of music in our lives. We trace Lori's journey from country classics that echoed through her youth to the rock anthems and pop ballads that became the soundtrack to her teenage rebellion. Along the way, we find ourselves reminiscing about cultural icons, the allure of the '80s nightlife, and how a tune can transport you back to the very moment you first heard it.

As Lori unfolds her narrative, we meander through the provocative evolution of Madonna, strip club anecdotes that'll have you chuckling, and the transformative world of fitness where lifting weights is no longer just a man's game. Lori's candid take on the competitive spirit of the modeling and bodybuilding scenes paints a picture of the relentless drive to succeed. Yet, it's the softer moments reflecting on the art of gift-giving and the hilarity of dating misadventures that remind us of the shared quirks of our human experiences.

We wrap up with a foray into the podcasting community's culture of support, a stark contrast to the dog-eat-dog world of entertainment from which Lori hails. She offers insights on staying authentic and true in a medium that celebrates unfiltered expression, a poignant endnote to a conversation that's as much about the beats we dance to as it is about the life we step through. Lori's parting wisdom? Embrace the unique melody of your own life's song, and let the rest fall away. So tune in for a heartwarming, laughter-filled journey that's as eclectic and diverse as a well-curated playlist.
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Speaker 1:

Welcome everyone to music junkies, a podcast about people sharing extraordinary stories about how music has impacted their lives. Welcome everyone to music junkies. I'm your host, annette Smith, and today's guest is a strong, empowering female, embodying both physical and mental strength. She is a role model. Her impact extends far beyond her athletic achievements. You may recognize her as ice from American gladiators, the number one hit TV show of the 90s. I love that show. I love that show. I love the documentary that they just put out. That was really cool to watch. She found her passion for acting, appearing as a guest to numerous TV shows and films. You're such an inspirational speaker and I admire you so much for that. I know others do too. I'm so grateful you said yes to be on the show, so grateful. So welcome, laurie, to the show. I'm so excited it's going to be awesome.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much for having me on Absolutely. That was a great intro, thank you.

Speaker 1:

You're welcome. So before we dive into your playlist, I know I gave you some homework. What was your experience putting your playlist together for me today?

Speaker 2:

It was interesting because you know you just don't think about it sometimes. You know, I mean I've got so many. Well, I have so many different playlists on my phone now, you know, for like certain moods, you know, either driving cardio, chilling, just relaxing, sex All these different playlists, you know. And it's kind of funny. So when you asked me that question to put a playlist together, I had to actually open my phone and go, ok, which ones do I do I want to use on this? You know kind of thing. It was fun, it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1:

I love it. It's funny because everybody's different, obviously, but the majority of people kind of go through this where they start here and then they go down more of a rabbit hole down here. Or you know, a lot of people stay, whether like 14 to 17, which I feel like you know that 10 to 18 age is mostly where we get lots of our, our music from, like, we kind of stay in that era. It's a lot.

Speaker 2:

I think I think possibly you know, like I was listening to something the other day and I was telling my girlfriend I was like, oh my god, I remember you know grabbing anything a hairbrush or something and I was like, probably you know 10 to 12 area, and I was in my living room and I was a singing away, you know, and it was like you know you're rocking out when you're just a little kid and back then I mean my, I grew up on country music. That's what my parents listen to, wow. So it was like, but the old country music you know Whalen, jennings, tanya Tucker, johnny Cash, those old old country artists you know. So that's what I grew up on.

Speaker 1:

Do both of your parents listen to country?

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, and then I I remember a time and I don't know what I wish. I wish I knew what song it was. It's probably like it was probably one of the songs fill me up, buttercup. Remember that? Yeah, love that. But it was like I can remember I was in the backseat of my parents car. We're on the freeway and they turn the radio on and I remember I actually thought as a child that the bands were actually in the studio playing the music as we were listening to. It is what I thought I was, you know when I was super, super young. So I think that's when my mom and my dad explained to me when I was in the car. They're like no, that's not how it works. And they explain the whole process now is just like blown away.

Speaker 1:

Were they more LPs, or forty fives or eight tracks?

Speaker 2:

Oh that at that point in time, we were LPs, we were, we had albums and we're. You know I'd flip through the albums. We had this big, huge console in the living room.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I love that.

Speaker 2:

That was like you had to open it up and the record player was inside, my dad yell at me all the time Don't, don't, mess up the needle on the record player. And then I used to. And then, as I got older, I started getting into the forty fives, you know. So excuse my dogs, by the way. Okay, good, but yeah, that was my intro to music. And then I started. They gave me guitar lessons when I was, I want to say, around 10. I started, they started having me take guitar lessons. I started learning classical guitar.

Speaker 1:

What was your favorite, like the first song that you were able to really play, that you wanted to play smoke on the water, like everyone else, yeah, so true though it's like so easy, everybody's going to play guitar.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly. I know it's fun going down memory lane and putting some of it. Put together some of the songs.

Speaker 1:

It's so awesome that you grew up with a record player like that. Like that was my first record player. I don't know where the hell my parents got it, but I remember coming home from school and my dad just started yelling can you go upstairs and turn that goddamn music off? And I was like I was at school all day. Why the hell is the music on upstairs? So I ran upstairs, not even like really thinking, because it's literally two bedrooms. There was no bonus room or anything, was just like two rooms. I wouldn't have left my stereo on. That doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 1:

But I went up there and there was one of those big, long wooden record players and it's they had like all like they must have just went to like the Goodwill and bought a whole bunch of records because it was they bought this Michael Jackson record, they had that plane and then they had all these Goodwill records and I remember going through them and, like Sean Cassidy, like I open it is like yes, rolled out all. Like yes, you know like what is happening. I'll listen to this. I'll check it out, donnie.

Speaker 2:

Austin and all that stuff. Yes, and it's interesting because I do remember and I it must have just kind of came in the time when I was like 1314 ish, like Queen, a day at the opera, night at wait, a night at the opera, and then they had another album a day at the races. I was really into Queen at that time too. My parents must have been listening to it because I didn't buy it. And then Elton Johns remember Elton Johns, they were big and Elton John, I remember that too. Captain Fantastic, you know all the Elton albums. So yeah, it's kind of fun to think back on those times and what we were raised with with music.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, my, my parents were 11 years apart, so my mom was like Rolling Stones, led Zeppelin, all of that, and then my dad was like Blueberry Hill, all of that kind of 50s music, all of that. So it was really interesting when they drank, right, they would be going back and forth my dad would like play the eight track and my mom would like play a record. So it's like so bizarre and I'm like this crazy crazy.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, eight tracks came in. Eight tracks came in a little bit later for me. How old are you? 48. All right, see, there we go. That's why the 12 year difference. Right there, I'm 60. So it's like that's why I was like eight tracks. They weren't even like introduced yet when I was growing up. But yeah, it was just like some of the when they drank, it was all. It was all country music and Johnny Cash, bonnie Millsap that was another one. It blows my mind that I can remember these artists. You know I don't even listen to him now, but I can remember when we were growing up, so in great.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1:

All right, we're going to start with your first song. You ready, yeah?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Nickelback something in your mouth.

Speaker 2:

Something in your mouth Nickelback. What do you want to know? Well, that's starting.

Speaker 1:

Tell you everything All right. You started it. We talked a little bit before the show, right? What was in your mouth with this song?

Speaker 2:

Honestly, I stumbled on this song and I actually just really, really like the beat. When I listen to music, the first thing is the beat, the rhythm, everything else, and then the words will come, and then I'll listen to the words. Some people are opposite, you know. They're like what's the song saying? But this one caught my ear and it was just like a great workout song, you know, and I don't know. I just I love it, I love it. I do love the words too.

Speaker 1:

I love Nickelback.

Speaker 1:

You know, I do too, they're really good friends, grew up them with them and Hannah, yeah. So it's really cool. We had him on the show like when I first started. He was one of the guys that really encouraged me to continue doing this because he had such a good time and and, yeah, he grew up with those guys, which was which was really kind of interesting just to kind of walk through his history with them and still to this kind of day, which is cool.

Speaker 1:

You know, small town like my husband's parents grew up, that like not grew up there, but moved there after Nickelback. I've already kind of moved out of that area, but we went to this little tavern like there's maybe 400 people in this town, it's like so small, but we went to like this strip club tavern, whatever you call it, right, I think that's all I talked about was like Nickelback, there's like eight people in the pub and those guys like drove us home because we they we drank so much there talking about Nickelback and the owner had, like you know, like one of those like track suits on with like flip flip socks on and I was like I love this guy already, like let's do some shots.

Speaker 2:

It's, it's I think about. It's interesting because Nickelback, it's like I think their, their recent last album is probably one of the best ones I like, you know, like you know, with this song on it and I think it's called Dark Horse, if I'm correct, and it has a little bit of a different kind of vibe to it and that's why I like it and what I'm. I'm. I forgot, I'll be honest with you. I forgot the list I sent you. So this is gonna be fun because I want to. I want to see if there's any kind of correlation at the end of it on the songs I sent you.

Speaker 1:

Check out another one, because it's another Nickelback.

Speaker 2:

So animals that I I did a TikTok video to that oh, and I had so much fun doing that TikTok video and I stumbled on this song because of the TikTok video itself and I know it's not on the album Dark Dark Horse. And so when I was scrolling through my TikTok I saw this and I saw some different people were doing the videos and I was like, oh, I can do one so much better than this and so I had that's where I got that song from and it just again stuck on my playlist. You know, and a lot of this too is when I'm driving, when I'm doing my cardio. It just think about it, listen to that beat. It's like boom, boom, boom, boom. It just keeps you going, makes me feel good. I don't know. There's a lot about the Nickelback songs. Definitely, if my mood is here, it'll take my mood up to here.

Speaker 1:

Do you drive faster when you got a good song on? Probably, I know why I do. I sometimes I'm like all over the place. I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa, sorry, sorry listening to a good song.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I have a pretty little fast car so I have to be very careful.

Speaker 1:

What is, what was one like, obviously, growing up in high school? What kind of what kind of girl were you growing up in high school?

Speaker 2:

I was kind of geeky, believe it or not. Yeah, yeah, I was not real. I mean I was. I was a jock, so I was playing softball, volleyball, basketball. But somehow I met the cool kids, like in my freshman year, but I can't necessarily say that I was one of those really super cool, cute little girls. I was kind of nerdy, kind of dorky, kind of, you know, not really that cool, you know so, but I was a jock, that's all I cared about was playing sports, you know, and all my friends that I hung out with they were, they weren't, they were like maybe on the swim team, you know, and that was supposed to be the cool sport, you know. And some of them were cheerleaders, some of the guys were football and basketball players that we all hung out with. But yeah, I just I didn't really look at myself as the cool kid growing up. I didn't. I didn't come into that until my late 20s, so it took me a while to grow into my coolness.

Speaker 1:

Were your parents strict or were they pretty open-minded?

Speaker 2:

They were strict with us and I think back now that they were pretty open-minded, because I found their weed I you know they hid it from us pretty good. My dad used to work graveyard shifts and so I found his little white crosstops speed, you know in his drawer. Not that my parents were drug addicts or alcoholics, but you know other than that they were pretty strict with us as kids. I can't really say they were super open-minded.

Speaker 2:

You know, my mom was. My mom was a very like strict church every Saturday, very religious. You know, growing up she wanted me to wear dresses all the time, so I put my cowboy boots on with them. They were strict on what we ate, our timeline, you know. We had to be in, we had to. You know, the only thing they weren't really strict with me on is my homework and my grades, because I think around that time I was around 13 and that's when you start, you know, getting into the homework and stuff. That's when they started. That's when they started splitting up and they got divorced. So you know how parents are. They're like I'll screw it, you're on your own now, you know. But yeah, I had. I had my curfews, you know, absolutely. I broke a couple of them. My dad got pissed through me out of the house. I was a little when I was a teenager, though I was a little helly at the same time.

Speaker 1:

Did you start breaking some rules when they were separated?

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, oh yeah, oh my God, yes, penny against each other. I got, I got pretty bad. I actually got popped for shoplifting and shit and they threw me in jail.

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

I was under 18. It was like stupid stuff, like a pair of shorts, you know, but I think at that, at that age, with kids and teenagers, you're pushing the limit to see what you can get away with. That's really what it was.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we used to shop shoplift all the time. We'd go into the dealers and then like, put everything in and then go, dump it off in the car and then go back in and get, like we were. It was bad. It was like you have enough lipstick that you're never going to wear and you can. You have way too much blue and pink eyeshadow Like you're going to be okay. You don't need any more big blue belts. Like we're going to be okay in that. Like it was. But I agree with you. I think we just were bored.

Speaker 2:

I'd go in and buy 145 and I'd come out with 20, because once I bought the one, I could put all the other ones in the bag.

Speaker 1:

Like we were. I feel like the kids aren't creative nowadays.

Speaker 2:

There's too many cameras. Think about it. We have cameras back then.

Speaker 1:

I wish you could go back there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, nowadays it's like, oh my God, you can get popped because there's a camera around every corner.

Speaker 1:

You know, do you remember the posters you had on your wall? Did you have posters on your wall growing up?

Speaker 2:

Donnie Osmond. Donnie Osmond was wearing a pair of purple pants, you know, sitting kind of cool on a trash can. That was on the back of my door in my bedroom, and I had to share a bedroom with my sister, so you know, it was one of those kind of so every time I wanted to put something up in the room I'd have to battle my sister, and she was three years older than me. She always won. She won the battle.

Speaker 1:

That's hilarious, good old Donnie Osmond. Yep, right. Next Another nickel back. Damn how many bags are on there so sex.

Speaker 2:

Sex. Do we see a correlation here? Going Like I'm thinking Sex and wine.

Speaker 1:

Something in your mouth. We should probably date, because I'm going to get something that I need for sure.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's funny. Oh God, yeah, that was the other one I stumbled on. After something in your mouth, I was like, hey, I think I'm really digging this, I, I. And here's the other thing I do, too is I'll watch music videos sometimes when I'm, when I'm doing my cardio, and I will purposely find music videos that have like really hot people in them. And I know it's like when you start going back on all my playlists you're going to go Jesus Christ, this girl is a sexual being, but it is. It's, it's, it's who I am. You know, there's no secret there. But yeah, and so the music I listened to is definitely the same correlation to you know, it's, it's funny.

Speaker 1:

Let's take you back to maybe your very. Do you remember like the very first album you ever bought with your own money, that you were excited about?

Speaker 2:

buying. I didn't. I actually I don't know if I really say I mean I most likely it was probably I'm going to guess like seriously, like Queen did a night at the opera or a day at the races. I was really big into them, I think that's. I think I was around 1415 in that, in that genre. I remember again singing in the living room singing one of the songs was Lover Boy, yeah, and I remember the first album and oh my God, I was just, yeah, I was. I was the girl in the living room singing and dancing by herself, listening to the music.

Speaker 1:

Did your parents ever think that your music was too out of control? Or, you know, obviously listening to country all the time, did you ever get to share it with them? Like, oh, mom, dad, like you got to check out this song and they actually.

Speaker 2:

I mean they they did, they were. I got okay. So, going back to the strictness, they made sure what I was listening to was appropriate, let's put it that way, yeah, but again, if you think about it, okay, what's what was appropriate? Back then to what it is now. I mean Crazy. Oh, it's insane. Yeah, music that, that the words that are coming out of the music nowadays, it's actually, it's kind of scary as a matter of fact. But you know, they did, they made sure that whatever I was listening to at the time, that was, it was age appropriate, you know. And if you think about the Queen albums and everything back then, I mean, even if he was looting to anything, I didn't know, I was just a kid.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's right. Do you remember the bars in the 80s?

Speaker 2:

Okay, so I graduated in 81. So I had my first fake ID when I was probably 1920.

Speaker 1:

Was the bar in your like where you grew up or did you go?

Speaker 2:

I grew up in San Bernardino so there was really no cool bars at all. I had to come into the Hollywood area and I remember the very first gay bar that I went to now it's called Peanuts and this place was just packed and it was a Hollywood bar and it was fun. You know, the music they played was was just I mean, everything was. It wasn't necessarily the disco back then. Yeah, they were playing the Joan Jets, they were playing the, you know, the 80s music, yeah, and yeah, I remember that that was really probably the first bar I had truly like went to. That, I remember, with my fake ID and back then it would make fake IDs because you could just you could just take the razor blade and cut your photo out, right Put it on somebody else's driver's license, kind of scuff it up a little bit.

Speaker 1:

Put it on the cement, Just rub it. Ah God, those were the days. Tell me about your, your 80s outfit to the bar.

Speaker 2:

Oh, parachute pants. These were the, the, the parachute pants that were made, I guess, parachute material. I don't know that's why, but had zippers all over, you know, and they were tight, and I had a pair of boots.

Speaker 1:

Did you? Have tassels on the boots or they just kind of no tassels on the boots.

Speaker 2:

No tassels, no. However, it did have like a little on the very tip of it, that gold tip on the very end. I love it. And then probably I had a black t-shirt on, like I have now. But then obviously we had like the, the, the headbands, you know the really thin, like black cool headbands. Oh my God, I look back and I laugh. I laugh at those pictures. I thought I was this cool shit going out.

Speaker 1:

Did you wear lots of bracelets? Did you tease your hair? Hair a lot.

Speaker 2:

Lots of hair. No, no, back then. I mean, if you think about it, I was 81. Hair didn't really start getting big until the later 80s. Okay, so if I graduated in 81, I was 18. So let's say 83, 84 is when I started going out to some bars. It was still straight hair. You know, it wasn't too crazy yet, but that's, you know, we that's when we kind of I mean, you know, started playing around a little bit with alcohol and smoke and stuff.

Speaker 1:

So what a really cool place to have access to in the 80s at that time. Like, honestly, like I would have loved that because I would. You know how I grew up like tons of hair bands, like I loved it. I loved every single hair band out there just to be on like Sunset Boulevard and be able to go to all of those clubs with all like oh the with Kia, go go.

Speaker 2:

I mean, tower Records was like huge back then. That was a place where we all went on the weekends and you know you, just you could, you could spend two to three hours in Tower Records, you know, just because they also you could have the little corners where they had the headset listen to the new music. There was a waiting line to get in Tower Records sometimes. Um, licorice pizza. I don't know if that was out when you were it, but there was licorice pizza stores. Oh, sunset Boulevard was crazy back in the 80s. Yeah, I mean just some of those bars were amazing the, the Roxy, um Rainbow.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I mean, gay bars were back then. What, how many? Was there lots of gay bars back then.

Speaker 2:

Um, I I don't really know, to be honest with you. All I knew is that one, and it's just a name for a gay bar peanuts.

Speaker 1:

I know of all things.

Speaker 2:

I mean like, Well it's, it's interesting. It's funny because even nowadays, um, like Santa Monica Boulevard Okay, so peanuts was all the way up on Sunset Boulevard, so I didn't really venture down into Santa Monica Boulevard, which was literally only two main streets back down. And Santa Monica right now is where all the men, all the the men's gay bars, and there's probably, like you know, shoot 10 to 20 of them. There's always been that one girl bar, you know, one girl gay bar, and I always questioned why that was. Why do the men have so many damn gay bars and there's one gay bar girls?

Speaker 1:

What do you think that? Why do you think that is girls, don't support the gay bars.

Speaker 2:

Oh, actually looked into it and I asked the owners, because there was one is called a girl bar and these two, uh, sandy and Robin, they owned it for oh my God, it must have been 20 years. And I asked them I go, why is there only one? And they said because girls don't support the bars, the boys do. The boys will go out and they'll do their drugs and they'll stay up all night and they'll dance and they'll drink and they'll support the bars. The girls, on the other hand, think about that. The girls.

Speaker 2:

Girls will be, girls will be girls, no matter what. If they're gay or straight, yeah, they'll go to a certain time, they'll have a few drinks and they're like oh, 1112, I'm done, let's go home. So, where the guys will stay out and party all night long, yeah, that's how we are as females. We just don't. We don't have the oaks to stay out, we don't have the foam, all that they have, yeah, and do all the drugs they do and stay out and support the bars online. Women just aren't like that and that's why there's only like one female bar to every probably 10 to 15 male, male bars.

Speaker 1:

Wow Interesting.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

Interesting. All right, I love this. You're the first person to have this song on their playlist. Oh, it's a little red wagon. I love that song. My husband passed a year ago and I just absolutely love it, but you're the first to have it on their playlist.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 1:

I think I've seen a couple hundred episodes, which is which is crazy.

Speaker 2:

There you go. That's part of my country coming out. You know, I still love country music. Oh, she's, she's. She's a great artist, miranda Lambert and I just I saw that song she was. She had that on one of the country awards. I was like I'm going to be on the same mountain and saying it live the very first time and I fell in love with it right away. You know, and that's kind of like, that's like my little attitude as well. You know, that's just a fun feel good song for me when I listen to that when I'm driving.

Speaker 1:

I love it. What about concerts? What was your first concert you ever went to? Journey? Oh, it was. It was my very first. That's a pretty good concert.

Speaker 2:

Steve Perry, journey. I think they were playing with cheap trick at that point in time and I remember Steve Perry jumped out there on stage. He had his little like tux jacket on with the tails, his tennis shoes, his tight ass jeans and I just thought Steve Perry was the shit. Oh my God, I love journey and I I love journey so much. I remember I named my cat when I was in high school, a senior in high school I had a new, brand new little baby kitten I named. I named him journey. No, steve, steve Perry, I call him Steve, I called him Perry. But I would actually, when I got mad and I Steve Perry, come over here. But that was my first concert ever and it was. I can remember it like it was yesterday. Oh my God, that was amazing concert to be at. Were you like close to the stage? Oh heck, no, are you kidding us? And nosebleeds. And I didn't care.

Speaker 1:

I know that's when concerts were fun, though, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I didn't even, I didn't even care where I was. I was just so happy to be there and listening to the music. You know I was watching him through my binoculars, you know. Now we do, we get all. You know, we get a little older, we get a little jaded, little jaded, and I'm like, oh my God, if I'm not, if I can't see him and I have to watch him through binoculars, I don't even want to go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

We're actually to the Madonna concert here in the next month.

Speaker 1:

Oh you are. It's funny. I'm reading her, I'm reading her book right now and it's awesome, like because I grew up with Madonna. I loved Madonna and it's really cool just to kind of walk through her life. I've never really read a book like this before.

Speaker 1:

I do a lot of reading this book, though. It's like when this was going on in her career, this is what was going on in the world. So it's really interesting because you get to go through all of these different things that were going on in the world, like when she was growing up in New York and stuff, and just like the gay scene, right, how it was portrayed and all of that stuff, and then the AIDS and then her going. It's just so interesting because it includes all these other crazy events that I'm from Canada, so I wasn't not really exposed to a lot of that stuff. Yeah, it wasn't. I didn't really see it Like when, even when people talk about racism, like it's not that I'm naive, I know it's happening, but we don't see it like that. Yeah, yeah, who? It's very different.

Speaker 2:

I thank you, but then again, I mean, on that note, I mean I think it just depends on where you are. You're in Canada, but even though, being in the United States and me being in LA, it's the who you're hanging around with and what you're doing in your life, if you really notice these things, Because even when that was happening, I was I, how old was I? What time period was that?

Speaker 1:

Because I don't know. I would say early 80s, like pretty much all of the 80s.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so I was consumed with just getting out of high school and I didn't even, honestly, I didn't even know all that shit was going on, Because I was so consumed in my own world about coming out of high school and what I was going to do. And am I going to go to college? And if not, what am I going to do? Am I going to get to work? You know, it was one of those kind of things and New York was obviously that was a, you know the big melting pot as well. You know a lot of things that was happening, but I do remember that time and I remember little bits and pieces of it, but I just wasn't in that world and consumed with everything that was happening.

Speaker 1:

Like I remember Truth or Dare, like I remember when that came out, I remember when her sex book came out, but like listening from it from her perspective and what was kind of going on in the world, I was like, wow, I didn't. I had no idea that those types of things were were going on. I had no idea that she was, you know, doing concerts and like doing speeches during it for, like, awareness of, of same sex marriages and all. I had no idea that she was raising funds for AIDS every single concert. No clue. Like it was just like behind the scene stuff that I had no idea what was kind of going on.

Speaker 1:

So it's such an interesting book and it's funny because I was talking to a friend a little while ago, probably about six months ago, and I saw a TikTok video and we were talking about Madonna and it's like your phone listens to you. So I went on TikTok and there was Madonna Of course it does, yeah, and she's sitting there with a bunch of girls and she's like, yeah, I should probably just go on tour. Why don't I just surprise everybody and go on tour? And it didn't even look like Madonna for one. And I was like, wow, yeah, it didn't I mean it does not look like Madonna?

Speaker 2:

Okay, are you talking recently, like six months ago? Yeah, yeah, I don't know who that person is either. Yeah, but it's Madonna. I mean, I didn't want to go down that road, but let's do it anyway. Yeah, what the hell is she thinking? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I'm like so then it was an announced her concert and I was like that's weird, yeah. And then I wanted to really go, like I really do want to go. I want to go even more just reading her books and you know, reading this book and all the stuff that she puts in these shows. But I'm kind of like not a hundred percent because I don't know. Like I I want to remember her like this, not like this.

Speaker 2:

It's interesting, yeah, okay, so I am living with a girl who is a Madonna fanatic Okay, grew up with her, loves everything about her. I mean, you name it. She's like one of Madonna's number one fans. So my point on that is you're right.

Speaker 2:

When she started changing, april was like who the hell is this? She goes. I don't even want to follow her anymore. I don't want to look at her anymore. I don't want to remember her like this. Yeah, I want the old Madonna back that we all fell in love with, you know, and she is just kind of like this badass woman and, just you know, broke the barriers and she was amazing and she was just fit and just dancing and all of a sudden, it's like she started looking like this alien. Yeah, yeah, she started doing way too much work on her face and then all of a sudden she decided she wanted that big ass. This is like Madonna. What are you doing? It's like somebody needed to shake her and go. You don't need to do this. You're beautiful. You look amazing the way you are. However, interesting enough, I've seen her now that she's a great person, now that she is on tour, she's kind of slowly reverting back to what she looked like again.

Speaker 1:

Interesting.

Speaker 2:

Go figure, I don't know, maybe all the stuff is wearing off on her face. Yeah, she's like.

Speaker 1:

I'm just going to let this filler like, just wear off and see what it is. I'm going to get my face back. It could be really awesome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know, I know, and then I don't know. I know it's a grill that she puts in her teeth, but all of a sudden she thought it was cool to have like gold teeth. And it's like, how old is she? Like 65, something like that she's older than that. Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to say, you know, it's so funny when people go. Oh, I feel sorry for them, I don't feel sorry, I'm just saying what did you do and why?

Speaker 1:

That's brilliant. How did you look in the mirror one day and say you know what I get it. You want to tweak, you want to, but you can do it in such a natural way Like it's almost like you go to your book on the same doctor and he just you have no more bags under your eyes. You're like, yes, awesome. And then the next girl she looks like cat woman and you're like I just told you to go get your bag, yeah, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, maybe she's bored.

Speaker 2:

I mean, think about that for a minute. If you had all the money in the world and you had the popularity and you had the fame? It's like what floats your boat anymore, what makes you excited?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can't caveat or somebody's bumhole, if you wanted to. Right, I'm not saying that you're happy, but you can have those options.

Speaker 2:

Maybe it's you have to go to extremes, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

And maybe that's just it. You're like I've stayed at every single Ritzy hotel. I've ate every single type of food that there is out there. I've been at every beach. The biggest yachts flown in my PJ. Like, what else am I going to do? I'm going to make, I'm going to start messing with my face. I'm going to see if I can get on the tabloids here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm going to start messing with my face and I'm going to grab me a big old butt and let's see, let's have some fun with it. Oh my God, I love it Okay.

Speaker 1:

I love this song. This song's good. Yeah, I feel like we need to talk about a strip club.

Speaker 2:

Hornstar dancing Another song I stumbled on that. It's funny. It's when I started watching the video on that one. The video is actually really good to it as well, very good to it. I just again, it was one of my playlists that I did all my cardio and I was working out to and I was bartending at the time as well, and that's where I found the song, because when I was bartending one of my friend, the one of the other bartenders because that was my darkest days, right, my darkest days there was another song that he actually introduced me to as well, and around that song came like a couple other of them nine inch nails only and all these other different ones. So that song came from when I was bartending and I just thought it was the coolest song and it had such a great beat and all the videos and everything to it are amazing.

Speaker 1:

So did you ever spend any time in a strip club? Oh God, yes, my favorite time in a strip club, do you?

Speaker 2:

remember? Yes, I do. As a matter of fact, favorite time in a strip club was when I started seeing my current girlfriend now and her and myself and two other people went down to. It was a gentleman's club down by LAX and I was told they have the prettiest girls. I'm sorry, I can't watch ugly strippers, I'm a little prejudice.

Speaker 2:

I'm a little prejudice when it comes to, like you know, strip clubs. These girls got to be hot, I agree, because if they're not I'm like, no, don't take it off, no, keep it on. We went down there and it was just. We had such a good time. First of all, I think it was April's maybe second time into a strip club, so that was fun to watch her and her expressions, you know. And then I was like, come on, we're going to get you a lap dance, which was all like a lot of fun to watch. No, because she. What was really funny about that is she comes across a little aggressive but yet at the same time when I remember this for a back, when I was watching her in there, all of a sudden she became so hot, so shy.

Speaker 1:

You know exactly what do.

Speaker 2:

I do with my hands. Oh my God, it was so funny and I remember, I remember even the girl going you can touch me if you want, and still it's kind of like really Can I wear? Oh my God, and we, we partied that night. Oh yeah, that was probably the best time I ever had a strip club and it's important that you're even. And it's called Spearmint Rhino, that's what it was called. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I was literally going to tell you. I just heard about Spearmint Rhino.

Speaker 2:

It's yours.

Speaker 1:

We go to Vegas quite often and we took my brother-in-law there and he's so shy, right. I'm like we got to go to Spearmint Rhino. Brent will love this. We'll have a good time. I took he was dating my girlfriend at the time and so me and Tyler got them both lap dances and we just were sitting across from them and watching them get lap dances. It's been fun. It's been so hard because they're both like hands on the chair. They're like new in this relationship and they're like what are we allowed to do? Are we allowed? And obviously the girl on Pam is like way more aggressive. You know what I mean. She's like great titties and she's like I don't know. And Pam has big boobs and the girl's playing with her boobs and Brent's just like trying not to watch, but kind of watch and probably getting turned up Like this is awesome. I love Spearmint Rhino. That's a good one.

Speaker 2:

They actually do. They have some really good girls at Spearmint Rhino, you know. And I also like the strip clubs. I'm the girl that likes the strip clubs to where it's topless, only I don't like the full nude clubs. It's like let's leave a little bit of imagination, and yet at the same time they don't serve alcohol at the full. You know nude strip bars, yeah, and so you know the topless ones are the best ones. And actually when I was in Florida I lived in Florida for five years Florida had the best strip clubs and the best, the prettiest girls' hands down, the girls in Florida. I don't know about now, but that was probably like 15 years ago when I had my business there, and I remember it was just like, oh my God, you know, the girls used to have to literally audition. Nowadays they're like, hey, anybody sign a ticket? Come on, please, we need some.

Speaker 1:

I know it's kind of scary now.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, isn't it? Yeah, half of them should not be taken their clothes off. No, no, and even I enjoy a good strip club. It's been a long time since we went, though, and I want to go to Vegas, as a matter of fact, because I did hear they have some beautiful women up there, and I actually it's funny because I still want to go to the Thunder Down Under. Yeah, yeah, in the male strip club either, and I bet you, those guys have beautiful, beautiful bodies, beautiful bodies, and if I can move with a beautiful body like that, no, so good.

Speaker 2:

Like magic mic, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's why they remember me.

Speaker 2:

Isn't it? It's so cheesy, I know I love him, I love him.

Speaker 1:

Oh, janine Tano, I love your song.

Speaker 2:

I can feel it. Okay. However, that version that I sent you, that's the recreated version. I can feel it and that's the one it's called, I think they the DJ sick, I think it was a matter of fact, and I love that version. I mean, I can't really say that in the air tonight would be on my playlist, but that version, the mix of it, yes, so good. I don't really have anything on that one, that one's just. You know, I actually I heard it the first time on one of my TikToks. Okay, I was scrolling and somebody did a couple of TikTok videos to it and I was like that is an amazing beat. And then I started researching it. More and more people started downloading it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know. So I know you worked out a lot. It's obvious, but if you had to give somebody some advice and you could only give them three things that they should do, what would be the top three things they can?

Speaker 2:

Consistency.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay, I love that.

Speaker 2:

Consistency is the number one because of the consistency. If you're not consistent, you could start a fad diet, lose some weight three, four months. Stop what you're doing for the next six months, put it right back on again. I mean this on and off and on and off. It just doesn't work. So consistency is the number one key to working out. The second thing is really you are what you put in your mouth.

Speaker 2:

It's very true what you eat, you can't out train what you eat. How's that? And a lot of people think they can, you know. So, consistency, what you eat and it doesn't matter if you're and this is a big thing with females is, I'm not. Nowadays it's getting more and better and better. But lifting weights, I mean, it's just not about cardio anymore. Cardio is great for your heart, but the more muscle you have on your body, the less body fat you normally have, because your muscle actually feeds off of your body fat for energy and so therefore, it's kind of like you know, women are like oh, I don't want to get big. You won't get big, You'll get tone and you'll get solid, but in order to get big, you have no idea how hard you have to train to get to that level. I mean it's insane. It's a dedication, it's a lifetime.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So those three things, yeah, consistency, what you eat, and lifting weights. Lifting weights is also, I mean, good for osteoporosis, for your bone density, all of that Later on in life. I mean it just you can mold your body, Literally, you can mold your body and make it look any way you want by doing those three things.

Speaker 1:

I love that Great advice, very simple. So when you started, like, were you really like I know you were, you know an athlete before the gladiator. But like, did you notice, like you're obviously your workout routine totally changed. Like were you already getting super buffed back then already, or?

Speaker 2:

No, I mean, all through high school my coach would make all the girls you know go into the weight room and do jump rope with weights on their ankles and stuff. So my body was just normal, but I'm sure it was firm at the time. I mean I could sit. I mean I remember after practice I'd go out and I'd literally go to McDonald's and have like two cheeseburgers, a large fry and a chocolate shake, you know, I mean, and that was like I wasn't even full. Afterwards I was pounding the food down.

Speaker 2:

So I was just, I was strong, I was tone, but I didn't really start changing my body until probably mid-20s when I went into the gym and really started lifting.

Speaker 1:

So how did you become a gladiator, did somebody?

Speaker 2:

I saw the show. I stumbled on the show watching television and Ray Hallett played Zap on the show. So it was the very first 13 episodes and it was super cheesy and kind of stupid. And I knew who she was because of the fact that she was a bodybuilder and she was, you know, all the girls get to know. You get to know the girls in your circuit. You know whether you're training for cities, states or national levels. You get to know who you're competing against.

Speaker 2:

At the time, ray Hallett was a bodybuilder. She was a little bit more advanced than I was and at that time, and so when she was on the show and I flipped it on, I knew exactly who she was at the time and I was like, holy shit, that's Ray. You know what a stupid show. How do I get on there Exactly? How do I get on the stupid show? So I saw her in the gym and I asked her you know we weren't friends really I just I walked up and introduced myself and I said how do you get on the show? And she goes. Well, it's interesting because I'm pregnant now and I'm not gonna be able to go back, so they're looking for a replacement. Oh my God, how, how can I get on it? She goes, just watch the show. All the information will be at the end of the show.

Speaker 2:

It wasn't, and it was at the end of the show the production company. The name of the production company was at the end of the show. So I'll date myself and say there was no internet. There was nothing like that at that time. I had to open the yellow pages.

Speaker 2:

Oh, wow and through it and find the production company and it just so. Thank God, it was here now in Hollywood. So I drove there and walked in and handed him my headshot and my resume. I don't even know if I really had anything back then, but what I thought was and they said hey, we're having tryouts this day. You know, we'll keep you in contact, and the rest is history.

Speaker 1:

I just thought so what kind of things would be on your resume?

Speaker 2:

Just I know that's what I was like so funny I, because I was like well, my resume was more just work. Yeah, Think about it, because you know probably McDonald's.

Speaker 1:

I don't know how many push-ups can you do.

Speaker 2:

Right, and nothing to do with that. I had a headshot, though, because I remember when I was 18, doesn't every 18 year old girl become?

Speaker 1:

a model? Yeah, because we all were convinced by some dude yes, when we were out that we would go and meet in an alley and he would take headshots of us. Thank you, exactly, and there might even be a few that have some booby shots as well. Right, right, yeah, that's what we did. So you were that girl? No, right, yeah?

Speaker 2:

I remember. And then they, they coax you, they would cork, she'd shit. What's the word I'm looking for? Were you, they would. They would talk you into. There we go. I'll just introduce another word they would talk you into coming to the modeling agency, because that's where they made their money. Because, oh, do you want? Okay, let us get you some headshots and we're going to make you a Z card, and oh, it's only going to cost you $2,000. Yeah, you're going to be a model.

Speaker 1:

You will be for sure With your look you will be for sure and you're like, okay, well, I'll trust you. Well, the funny thing is back then.

Speaker 2:

I was five, six and a half, I want to say, coming out of high school and and their height minimum was five, seven. Oh really, I would put boots on, my cowboy boots or whatever I was wearing at the time, and I'd go in for these interviews. And I remember one lady she literally did this to me she goes, take your boots off. I was like, really Well, I took my. She goes, you're only five, six and a half, I'm sorry you have to be five, seven. I'm like, well, that's the way of saying you don't need me. You know you're going to blame it on my height, but I had headshots. That's my point. I had headshots from that time that I took into the gladiators. So what kind of things do they make you?

Speaker 1:

do at tryouts. They made us run a 40-yard dash.

Speaker 2:

They made us play tug-of-war with each other. Obviously they also made us do kind of like a simulation of Powerball one-on-one to see if we can move. Then what else did they have us do? Powerball, 40-yard dash oh, pull-ups. How many pull-ups can we do? How many push-ups can we do? And we did all of that. And if you passed all of those, then they took you for a one-on-one camera interview to see if you could speak. Wow, so which one of the girls were you like?

Speaker 1:

were you like? I can destroy you, destroy you, destroy you. I went through every single one of them and went.

Speaker 2:

I know I can beat you, you, you and you because of the fact that they were all big-ass bodybuilders. Yeah, and I knew they weren't athletes. See, I was an athlete before I became a bodybuilder so I could move. Yeah, a lot of these girls were coming from out of the woods or coming from out of cheerleading or swimming or something, to where they didn't have that athletic I'm going to kill you kind of attitude, yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know that really aggressive kind of like I'm going to win. So I knew I had that over them and so a lot of them. I just had to get through the strength. I played tug-of-war with one girl because I remember at the tryout I must have only been maybe 135, 140. And this girl came out and I remember who she was. Her name was Nikki and she weighed 180. So she had like 30 pounds on me and she was big and strong and I remember playing tug-of-war with this chick and I was just like I am not. It became a standstill, yeah, literally, because the fact I was like she's not going to be standing there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sorry, no, so that was. It was like the on the back lot, believe it or not, on you know pavement. We weren't even inside, so I passed that you know kind of try out. And then after that, I think like 75 to 80 girls was at the tryouts and then they weedled it down to 20. And then those 20, we went indoors and they started using us as guinea pigs actually to test the games out.

Speaker 1:

How much time did you spend on your outfit the night before to wear to the?

Speaker 2:

That is a great question, but not a lot you weren't like oh, I should maybe wear the silver bikini.

Speaker 1:

No, you weren't.

Speaker 2:

Oh, because, think about it, these were athletic tryouts. Yeah, you know, these weren't bikini model, kind of walk across the stage.

Speaker 1:

Did you notice any of that kind of stuff though?

Speaker 2:

Maybe some of the girls were wearing really tight white. You know tank top beaters, you know they were tied up and yeah, I was probably. I mean I, I. At that point in time I got to be honest with you. I'm pretty damn lucky I got through that tryout.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I passed it because I was pretty hard looking. You know I was bodybuilding, I was big. I think I had 80s hair at the time, you know.

Speaker 1:

I was already a direction you were already looking at going. You wanted to be a bodybuilder. Oh, you didn't. Bodybuilding yes, not on television. Like you were kind of already going in that direction because that's kind of where you wanted to go and I wanted to go pro.

Speaker 2:

That was my whole thing. I wanted to go pro. Was there a?

Speaker 1:

lot of women back then looking to do that. Did you have a lot of people like helping you as females, giving you advice for that kind of stuff?

Speaker 2:

Girls never gave you advice you had to have. You had to actually hire a coach. Oh, all the male coaches you know.

Speaker 1:

yeah give you any information.

Speaker 2:

Was it just jealousy or just oh God, yeah, competition, competition, girl, crazy On word, as females were caddy, yeah, competition.

Speaker 1:

We'll let you drown, sweetheart.

Speaker 2:

That was pretty much it.

Speaker 1:

Crazy, all right.

Speaker 2:

Another song, I don't know if I'm going to be able to Wow.

Speaker 1:

I remember I was like oh my God, what playlist did I send her? The greatest part, though, is that I am so good at it. I'm so good at it.

Speaker 2:

I'm so good at it. I'm so good at it. I'm so good at it. I'm so good at it. I'm so good at it. I'm so good at it. I'm so good at it.

Speaker 1:

I'm so good at it. I'm so good at it, I'm so good at it. The greatest part, though, is that I am so huge on sexual and the end those that I absolutely love it because it's so good. So here's a question for you before you tell me the story what is kind of the crazy thing you've ever did in the?

Speaker 2:

name of love. Are you a romantic, Are you? I'm very romantic, I can be very spontaneous. Let me think about this. God Geez, I can't even. I mean there is, I don't know, there's so much. What are we?

Speaker 1:

talking here Anything, you, anything else.

Speaker 2:

Open question.

Speaker 1:

I like those open questions though, because then it allows you to pick the boundary not me, I mean.

Speaker 2:

I'm a big gift giver too, so I always have fun. You know, the best one I ever I did actually buy I bought April a car for Christmas.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

That was kind of fun. And then the girlfriend, my very first girlfriend, trinity. I bought her a horse. That was a lot of fun. What was the horse's name? Spunky? Oh, he was a black and white dressage paint. And when we, when we were dating and going out, we used to go horseback riding all the time. So once we started living together, I was like, oh my gosh, to buy our horse, you know, for Christmas, yeah. So I'm romantic when it comes to that and it's like, okay, I don't know what to buy him, let's just buy him a horse.

Speaker 1:

You were like whoa, whoa, whoa. How about just like a Pandora bracelet? Let's just start.

Speaker 2:

I know right, exactly the part it goes okay, I know, I know I don't know. There's so many things that I've done throughout my life that are just, like you know, on the romantic side of things. I can't even. I can't even pick and choose one, to be honest with you, there's so many different ones.

Speaker 1:

The good thing that you're romantic, I think that you know a lot of people lose sight in that.

Speaker 2:

I mean I think once it's in you, you know what I mean. It's there, I guess. I love giving experiences.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't think you I spoiled the crap out of my kids, even though they're adults and having babies. But I love to give them experiences, like I love gifts. But I'm always like you know, my son he mentioned it a little while ago he's like, oh, I'd really like to get my pal license. And I was like whatever, I just got it from the other day, right, and just said here you can go get your pal license. He texts me today and he's like I'm going to go get that on Saturday and I'm like that's really cool, like I'm excited because like I feel like you know, it gives a gift, you know whatever it is when they're growing up, right.

Speaker 1:

I love experiences I love and I love spending like I'm a foodie, so it's like I want to go to like this restaurant and not continue and get whatever, and we just have this experience with like weird fancy drinks and I love doing that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and on that note, okay, so like, for instance, I said that you know April's this huge Madonna fan. So when we again, when we first started going out and dating, I took her to Madonna's brother's restaurant here in Hollywood, wow and I was like a surprise kind of thing. You know that's a big deal. Yeah, I was supposed to be. I mean, it was an amazing restaurant, you know. So I love doing those kind of things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think it keeps it fresh as well, yes, it totally does.

Speaker 2:

I'm seeing it. What's happening at the front door? Hold on a second. Roxy come here, have a little chihuahua and she like rules the house.

Speaker 1:

Great next song. We got two more left. Bad Girlfriend, Bad Girlfriend.

Speaker 2:

That's a great video, too. That's a great video. Okay, so we're stringing these all together, right, we are, we are. I'm like was this a super sexual time in my life? My hormones are up here.

Speaker 1:

Have you had a bad girlfriend?

Speaker 2:

Haven't we all no, I'm kidding. God, yes, yes, I've had some bad ones. Of course, I've had some bad dates, okay tell me what was your worst bad date.

Speaker 2:

But this was so long ago though. It was so long ago. It was probably late 20s. I was new to coming out and new to dating girls. I didn't know what to expect. Guys are so easy.

Speaker 2:

Coming on the girlfriend scene was a completely different experience for me. I would say one of my friends if she listens to this, she's going to laugh because we've been together. So she thinks that she's going to get me to go to bed with her because she's going to take me, to take me to eat oysters and it's supposed to be the aphrodisiac, right? I hate oysters. I just think they're disgusting. And now they slide down your throat Not interesting.

Speaker 2:

I agree, I don't get the appeal. I do not get the appeal, but I remember this girl. She wanted to take me out so badly and I don't know if she was a little bit younger than me. I don't remember everything, but she was so aggressive and so scary I wanted to leave during dinner, let's put it that way. Just some of the questions. And I remember asking her this question. She got so pissed I don't even remember I go. So what do you do for a living? She goes. Why does that even matter? And she went off on this whole tangent I was like, oh, this is not good this is not going to match.

Speaker 2:

I literally looked at her and went because, honestly, if you're working at McDonald's, I'm probably not going to go out with you anymore. I've probably said that to her.

Speaker 1:

Like I need to know you have a job. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You have some kind of career path.

Speaker 1:

Did you bus here or drive a car? I need to know these things, so mind you okay.

Speaker 2:

So we went to a shitty restaurant, had oysters, couldn't stand it, couldn't stand her company, I mean, it was just getting worse and worse and worse and worse and I just could not wait to leave and unfortunately she drove, had to go back to her place and then that was a disaster. I'm not going into that because that was just a whole disaster on itself, but I remember at that point in time I'm just like I seriously went do I really want to date girls? I had to question myself on that one. I'm like guys are so easy, you know, but that was a disaster of a date. I remember that one, God. And if I remember that, and I remember her name, oh, my God, her name was Eileen. Oh, that's probably why.

Speaker 1:

Like right there.

Speaker 2:

I know, yeah, here's the podcast she goes I'm that girl. How dare you.

Speaker 1:

Tell me about your podcast. Tell me about how it got started. What kind of? How did it come into fruition? Why did you?

Speaker 2:

decide Chillin' with ice, chillin' with ice, chillin' with ice. Everybody's got to go listen to Chillin' with Ice. Basically, I'm very good friends with a gentleman who is the manager over at Joe Rogan and his name is Curtis and we've been friends years, years and years and years. I'm driving down to San Diego and he goes Laura, you need to do a podcast and I go. Why?

Speaker 1:

You know why.

Speaker 2:

He goes because you have done so much in your life, so many things from A to Z, he goes. You can talk about anything he goes and that's all it is. He goes conversations with people, having fun, telling stories, giving some good information to where maybe they can take it back or just entertain them Period. And so we talked a couple times about it and all of a sudden, one day I just went. You know what Curtis I said if this falls on its face, it's your fault.

Speaker 1:

If I fail, it's because of you.

Speaker 2:

And I had made the decision, but then, about three weeks later, I actually we got the invitation to do the documentary Wow, and that was the Muscles of Mayhem on Netflix. And so when we started filming that, by the way, that was two years ago we each did like a six hour interview and they called me back a second time and they said well, you come back, we need to do some pickups, you know, for you. And that was another six hour interview and it just so happened. That's when I decided, right before that, because I was kind of bummed out and I really decided to do my podcast. I had already did my first interview for the Muscles of Mayhem, so I didn't get to mention it. So when they said I want you back, I was like, oh, my God, score, this is where I get to mention it.

Speaker 2:

And so I kind of put it out there to hold myself accountable, to be honest with you, because it was two years ago. I was like, yeah, I've got this podcast, and chilling with eyes, just like you know, it was happening right then and there, you know, and I was like, holy shit, I got to do this now and I was extremely nervous, you know. I'll be honest with you, I was very nervous about my first podcast, my first five. I don't feel like I hit my rhythm and my stride. Until probably the 10th to the 15th podcast I started feeling more and more comfortable. I don't know about you, but my first five I was like oh my God, I say that too much. Oh, why did I say that? Oh, I say that too much.

Speaker 1:

You know I did seniors, like you're used to seeing yourself on film If I, you know I'm not, so like that was weird. I'm like, oh my God, what's like? Do I have to look at myself con Like?

Speaker 2:

I had to get over that part of it because I was not used to being on camera.

Speaker 2:

So that part it was strange, I know, and it was. I did hire I'll be honest with you. I hired a girl as a consultant to get me up and running because I had no idea how to do it how to do a studio. Do I buy a studio? Do you buy my own stuff? I don't have a room in the house because of all my dogs. So she really helped me through that. And then she's like okay, now I need you to go out and get sponsors and advertisers. And I was just like, oh my God, I can't do that. That's not my wheelhouse.

Speaker 2:

So actually just this morning, before I got on this podcast, I signed a contract with cloud 10. Wow, Cloud 10 is taking on my podcast and I'll be on their network. So I'm extremely excited about that because they've got about 80 different shows so I'll be able to be on their podcast. I'll be able to grab them and put them on my podcast. They'll be helping me with different advertisers and everything. And so because, honestly, podcasting can be very expensive if you do it all yourself and you don't have your own room and you have producers and stuff. It runs me about two grand a month, to be honest with you. And so that's why I was like I want to sign with a company that can help me really get it.

Speaker 1:

And they can help you move it to the next level, and all of that.

Speaker 2:

I want to get to the next level. Yes, you know, I did the Adam Corolla show and I got a message last week from his booking assistant. She goes hey, we'd like you back on the Adam Corolla, and how would you like Adam on your show? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, and it's just it's. You know, it's really exciting about that. So the podcast has been a lot of fun, you know, and I'll continue to do it. I know that a lot's coming out this year. Um, I've got a children's book coming out this year.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you do. Yeah, yes, I love it.

Speaker 2:

I'll playground warriors and there's going to be an animation that'll be following that um, possible, uh, kind of a lot of comic cons, personal appearances, signing, getting a PR agent for the book, so that's going to help also catapult the podcast to the next level, you know. So a lot of it's, a lot happening this year and let's cross our fingers because it's election season and we all know how that goes.

Speaker 1:

No, I think it's awesome. I love where I love that you're still so inspired to go and do new things where most people get very stuck and stale or they think, oh, I'm just going to do this, it's not a you know, this is what I'm going to be for the rest of my life. So many people stay in that stagnant.

Speaker 2:

Did you hear my playlist?

Speaker 1:

I'm wondering. I want to have a conversation with April. I have a few questions for her that I am curious about.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I can't, even at my age. Right now it's like you know, I feel like it's my second, or you know, my second act in life. You know that I, just I, I can't, for the. Even before the documentary hit this June, and before we found out we were doing it, the last five years I kept going God, I'm not done. I know there's something deep down inside me going I'm not done yet. And it's really strange how I kept feeling that I'm like I don't know where I'm going, I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm not done. And so when it just kind of hit, you know it was just like God, thank the universe and everything that was happening. Maybe that was my energy, putting it out there that I'm not done yet.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love the podcast world because, from what I've experienced so far and I don't know if you've had either, I feel, because it's such a new area, like most people don't really know what to do. Like if I ask people for advice in the podcast world, if you're not you or Joe Rogan, right, where you've built up some form of followers, like just a brand new person. Without that outside of experience, I love how this, like just the community, is so helpful. They are Don't find it cutthroat at all. I find it like hey, I'll go on your show, you'll go on my show, let's do this today. Let's promote together. I get so many people that I've never even spoke to that have a podcast that put me on their top five podcast. Listen to this and then I'll see it and I'll go and I'll fricking like 500 other pictures. I don't care, like I'm always trying to. It's really cool and I didn't expect that at all.

Speaker 2:

No, and it takes a minute. It does take a minute, for it does take a minute to actually start to happen, but you're absolutely 100% correct, it is the coolest industry. It's not like the acting acting industry, it's not like the entertainment industry, because that's cutthroat, you know. But the podcasting industry whole, nother, whole, nother. Ballgame, everybody's helpful. You know, you can be on mine, I can be on yours. Let me share my guests with you. Yeah, you know it's.

Speaker 2:

I mean, think about that. It's just so nice. I don't know what that's all about, but yet at the same time it's. I do know being in the acting industry that's cutthroat. Yeah, I mean, it's insane. Um, but the podcasting industry, and I think that's why I feel so comfortable. I feel like I've found like a new home. You know I can be myself. Yeah Well, you know we can swear and say fuck and all those kind of stuff.

Speaker 1:

Put things in your mouth and whatever.

Speaker 2:

Put things in your mouth and then you can have sex with a dad, girlfriend, I mean. Go to strip clubs, like whatever you want to do, right, bring out a porn star dancing, but it's uh, yeah, it's kind of cool, it's. It's that's what I love so much about it is, I can be myself and be truly authentic of who I am. And I'm not watching. I mean, I am obviously have been told. Lori, now you got to kind of kind of just have a small filter.

Speaker 1:

I hate it because I'm like this is who I am and I know right away, like if somebody sends me their playlist, I'm like, oh fuck, this is good, this might not be, we might not. So I have like two. Oh, that's funny, I never thought about it.

Speaker 2:

So you're right. By the songs that people okay, yeah, perfect, oh my God, okay. So she'll kill me on this one too, cause I know she's listening She'll. She will listen. My manager up in Canada, the shit, the shit, yeah, the shit you listen to. And if that was a playlist and you got this place, you'd be the same way. You'd be like, oh dear God, who are we interviewing today?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I love it. I knew that there was going to be a connection, like sometimes I'm like I have no idea what's happening and then I can see it. I also probably shouldn't say this, but I say it anyways. They have to be a certain age. They really do, especially when we're talking about music and stories and stuff like that. There's got to be some form of a life experience there. I've tried to do, you know, people that are fairly young, that where I'm like and I just think it's because that world that they're in, that becoming a new actress or actor or an artist, they're scared to get canceled. So they're like I don't want to say I don't want to talk about sex, I don't, and I have a hard time with that because that's me. So now I'm not being authentic Me because, yes, I'm going to promote the shit out of you, but I want to be able to promote the shit of you because it's a good show, not because I'm pulling shit out of you constantly, right, because you're so scared of saying anything.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the young ones are very, very timid nowadays. Yeah, just their lack in the balls, and that's including the men.

Speaker 1:

I know I said to a friend over the other day and I said what the fuck is wrong with guys these days. They can't even hang a picture. And I go where, cause my husband's like a manly man, right, yeah, like. And then my friend Kevin's like well, what are you talking about? I'm like, honestly, dude, like can you hang a picture, or do you need to go have Tyler come over and hang a picture for you? Like it's true, though, like they can't fix a car, they can't, you know they can't, they cannot.

Speaker 2:

That is so funny. You're absolutely one big ass pussy men nowadays. That's right and it's too bad. I think our generation got the last of the good ones.

Speaker 1:

Right, here's your last song.

Speaker 2:

Oh, now I forgot what was number one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, live it up, pitbull of that.

Speaker 2:

Jlo Pitbull yes, good song, good song. God, I forgot to put that on there. As a matter of fact, what do I have to say about that one? She looks amazing. Yeah, she does Amazing in that video. I do.

Speaker 1:

Jennifer Aniston Like are you guys like what's happening here? Give me your stuff Like it's out of control, like they don't even look like they're over 30 years old. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot of treatments out there nowadays that you can make or keep your skin looking super good, you know, and as as youthful as you possibly can. I mean, the big thing out right now is the Morpheus, you know, for skin, skin type of things. And then there's, you know, other different machines. I'm actually having one done next week.

Speaker 1:

I'm having a little tuck. I'm going to look like Madonna, but that'll be fine, we're going to try it out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there are these micro needling machines that have a great frequency and it just tightens, it gets rid of fine lines, it resurfaces, and that's what I learned, that a long time ago. And they said, if you start, I started when I was 50. I mean, I started taking care of my skin when I was 40. And even though I was when I 30, because my mom's like sunscreen, sunscreen we're sun worshipers here in Cali Now going to the beach and just sunning and baby oil and iodine and I don't get a shit. Yeah, and then you know they kept going, use it and then all of a sudden 40 hits and like God damn it, why not listen to them? But I honestly, I started doing these little, different, small procedures when I was 50 years old and just kind of like slowing it down. Slowing it down Microneedling you know that's kind of one of the big things now with the PRP treatment they called the vampire facial.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you ever heard of that? Yeah, I've heard of that.

Speaker 2:

Oh. So not a lot of downtime, you know, but so yeah, they look amazing. So yeah, I've kind of followed suit in that kind of area little Botox fillers here and there. You know not shy to talk about that. But I don't want to. I don't want to grow old, I'll grow old. So either we had that. I had that conversation this morning. You know, men, they grow, they, they grow, they go gray, they get a little potbelly and they're called distinguished women. We go gray, a little potbelly and we're just old.

Speaker 1:

It's game over honey, it's like whatever, I'm going to fit into my acid boss jeans this weekend.

Speaker 2:

And then and then I was told no, they called. They call women at that age refined. You know it's like, really do they?

Speaker 1:

I don't know if I want to be called that, though.

Speaker 2:

But it's funny, that song, live it up. I mean, that's kind of, if you think about it, that just goes along with the entire playlist. Yeah Well, it's like live it up right now, right here. I love life, I love everything about it and it's like I want to be in the moment and I want to live life to the fullest, you know. So that's one of the other reasons why I think I take such good care of, like, my health and my body and working out and eating correctly, because I want to be in my nineties and not walking around with a walker or a cane and I can travel the world and still have that energy to do things. I might not, but hopefully in my mind I'm thinking I will. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I love it. It's, it's so true, and your playlist is super fun and energetic and full of life and love and sex and all of that kind of fun stuff that you know we should be doing at all ages.

Speaker 2:

Yes, remember.

Speaker 1:

Yes. So thank you so much for joining us today on Music Jerkies. I had so much, so much fun. I was so looking forward to this. I know.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, I was too. Thank you so much. This was a really fun podcast, totally different. I love doing totally different podcasts, you know, and it just makes it so much fun. So thank you so much for having me on your show. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1:

So, before I let you go, I'd love for you to leave us with some words of wisdom.

Speaker 2:

Ooh, I just put one out the other day and I'm going to. Actually I love this. So here's, here is your words of wisdom, from Lori Fetrich to your ears, and that is this Hold on, let me go back. So I have to look, I have to go back and here it is. Stop caring about what people hear and fall in love with your unique voice.

Speaker 1:

Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:

There you go.

Speaker 1:

That's really cool.

Speaker 2:

I stole that from someone. I won't tell you.

Speaker 1:

I love it. Thank you again so much.

Speaker 2:

You're so welcome. Have a great week and I'm sure we'll talk again.

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