Looking to discover how the magic of music can shape our lives, relationships, and personal growth? Join us for an enlightening conversation with our extraordinary guest, Joelle Gilmour who shares her intimate journey with music. We dive into the depths of our shared love for music, discussing its profound influence on our lives and how it connects us to our most cherished memories. From singing and dancing at parties to influencing younger generations, we uncover the myriad ways music can bring people together and inspire authenticity.
Our exploration continues as we venture into the realm of childhood memories, personal authenticity, and the unique challenges and joys of step-parenting. We share our personal experiences, revealing how music serves as a bridge to revisit cherished moments from our past while also helping us navigate life's complexities. Drawing from her experiences as a step-parent, we discuss the importance of breaking away from labels and boundaries and fostering a nurturing environment for blended families.
In the final segment of our discussion, we delve into the digital age's influence, emphasizing the importance of maintaining a balance between personal and professional life. With the insight of our talented guest musician, Awakened, we discuss self-acceptance and the crucial role of authenticity in our lives. Furthermore, we highlight the significance of female empowerment and unity, discussing the fight against gender inequality and the potential women hold to transform the world. Stay tuned for an episode filled with heartfelt conversations, memorable stories, and captivating insights into the world of music.
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Looking to discover how the magic of music can shape our lives, relationships, and personal growth? Join us for an enlightening conversation with our extraordinary guest, Joelle Gilmour who shares her intimate journey with music. We dive into the depths of our shared love for music, discussing its profound influence on our lives and how it connects us to our most cherished memories. From singing and dancing at parties to influencing younger generations, we uncover the myriad ways music can bring people together and inspire authenticity.
Our exploration continues as we venture into the realm of childhood memories, personal authenticity, and the unique challenges and joys of step-parenting. We share our personal experiences, revealing how music serves as a bridge to revisit cherished moments from our past while also helping us navigate life's complexities. Drawing from her experiences as a step-parent, we discuss the importance of breaking away from labels and boundaries and fostering a nurturing environment for blended families.
In the final segment of our discussion, we delve into the digital age's influence, emphasizing the importance of maintaining a balance between personal and professional life. With the insight of our talented guest musician, Awakened, we discuss self-acceptance and the crucial role of authenticity in our lives. Furthermore, we highlight the significance of female empowerment and unity, discussing the fight against gender inequality and the potential women hold to transform the world. Stay tuned for an episode filled with heartfelt conversations, memorable stories, and captivating insights into the world of music.
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Welcome everyone to music junkies, a podcast about people sharing extraordinary stories about how music has impacted their lives.
Speaker 2:Welcome everyone to music junkies. I'm your host, annette Smith, and today's guest. I'm excited about this. Right, I was outside at a friend's party, me and my husband. I swear to God pink was coming to the party. I swear to God, right, I was like this is really fucked up. That is pink, that's no word of a lie. Thought it was pink. But this guest considers music her best friend, right as uplifted her, inspired her, made her laugh, cry, feel less alone, like music does always to all, so many of us. She's always wanted to be a singer. She has a look and I love that. She says singing fills her soul. So please help me. Welcome jolyne Gilmore to the show.
Speaker 3:Well, hello and that. Thanks for having me. I really, really appreciate it. I had so much fun with you at the party that night. I know we had a blast, sing and dance and I just love. I love times like that. You can just let loose and you know you're, you're around. So such good people and I mean the conversation around the music stuff was just amazing.
Speaker 2:I love having connections like that because I just feel like it's on a different level, right. I feel like her world is so superficial where it's like hi, how are you? But you don't really want to know how that person really is. It's just like it's like a habit. You just say to somebody, hey, how's it going? And then they say good, and then it's up to you to like really want to dissect that or not dissect that, and you go OK good, have a good day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, our world is so full of that and I feel like music totally brings it out if people allow it right. Sometimes people just listen to music. There's kind of sitting there. Other people get right into it and I love that we were able to get right into it. It's crazy. There's lots of people there and you could kind of see like you know, maybe 20% we're kind of getting right into it and the other ones were like they're still into it but not really into it.
Speaker 3:To me it's interesting to watch it is, and you know, I feel like I was just born into music. Actually, to tell you the truth, like I'd sing in my living room when I was little, you know wanted to guitar. I mean, that's, that's just what I did. So it's always been a very integral part of my being. This, and probably the happiest I am Is is when I'm singing or listening to music or sharing music with other other people.
Speaker 2:I love it. So what was your experience putting your playlist together for me today?
Speaker 3:Oh my God, and that. Oh my God. Do you know how hard it was for me to distill it to 15 songs?
Speaker 1:I've got you be hard.
Speaker 3:I mean my whole, my whole life has been mapped by music and it's so diverse, which it which is also the thing I had to kind of pick a streamline of experience and and memories and everything to you know. Kind of go with that, because otherwise I'm all over the all over the place, like I'm like, you know, nirvana, pearl Jam, but I love country and I love, you know, all these things, and it was just I had to really pick the ones that had the most meaning to me over the course of, I guess, my, you know, younger years, but also through my teenage years. And then you know what I remember most, and my brother's been a big part of that as well, because he's seven years younger than me and he always reminds me of the songs that he's influenced by because of what I you know played for him when we were growing up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's interesting because you can go and pick a song. You're like, oh, I love this song and this is why it brings up this memory, but that song can take you down a rabbit hole. That you're like, oh my God, am I ever going to get on my teen years in this playlist?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2:Christine, it's true, it's crazy to see how much influence that 11 to call it 17 years old was on who most people are today their music, how they act, their clothes they wear, the you know their friends, it's easy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, it's really probably probably been everything for me. Music when there was no one else yeah, it's how we kind of see it. You know, it was the. It was the stuff that made me feel not alone.
Speaker 2:I love it. Well, let's get to it. Let's start with your first song. You're ready? Okay, yeah, you bet you fill up my senses like night in a forest. Right, john Denver. Who doesn't love John Denver?
Speaker 3:You know, it's just so pure. Yeah, and I was really lucky to have parents that were musical in terms of listening to a lot of different varieties of songs, and so we had music in our house all the time and I think I, you know, I drove that too because I, you know, I wanted to be singing in the living room and that was probably entertaining for them and the family and stuff like that. But when I listened to that song, it's just just opens my heart up and I feel warm because it does remind me strongly of, you know, those good memories of childhood.
Speaker 2:When you think back to kind of your mom and your dad, what are some lessons that they taught you?
Speaker 3:now that you're older, Both of my parents were poets. Oh, both my parents wrote a lot, and so I was really strongly influenced by that, and you know that that's what sort of started me on my songwriter one second.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So when I wrote music myself it wasn't Sometimes I hear the melody, but it was it was starting with lyrics. I'm a very lyrical person. I love listening to. You know the meaning behind it. I just remember feeling you know a lot of joy and just looking at them and you know we're singing and there's music in the car and eight tracks like that's aging me a little bit, but it was. Those were really happy times and I feel like in this world where you know there's a lot of uncertainties, you know it's nice to be able to have a moment of presence with that kind of, you know, power and Heart. And I mean it's just. You know John Denver was just such a beautiful soul. I think he left the earth too soon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sounds like you, grew up in a very loving family.
Speaker 3:I did and you know we had our struggles. My mom was in a wheelchair. She had muscular dystrophy, so you know there was some challenges with that but I feel overall, as a family, we did really well to navigate that and you know my mom was very instrumental in like you can do whatever you want to do. Yeah, powerful woman, so on measure, so her whole entire life.
Speaker 2:growing up she was in a wheelchair in a reciner, anything else Wow.
Speaker 3:No so you know, hey, I mean everyone has their things. But I guess you know, sometimes you just appreciate things differently when there's those, there's those challenges right in the present moment. So, and we share that as a family, we all did. We love music and my family on the outside of that, on my dad's side, is very musical as well. There's a few singers and musicians in my family.
Speaker 2:I love it. It's interesting because I always find it so interesting. The people that exposed is the wrong word but have grown up with somebody you know, with you know Down syndrome or you know been in a wheelchair, those types of people I feel like are like so humble, like it blows me away, like I always say to myself I, you know, I'm not like a massive God believer, but I do believe that you were dealt with, what you can deal with. Yeah, I'm a huge believer in that. And I feel like when I look at the people that have that in their life because I always say I don't know how the hell I would do with that, like I don't know where to even start I feel like I don't have the patience.
Speaker 2:I feel like I like I couldn't sit still for that long, like I'd be like, but yet so many people I know are like have that in their life. So I get exposed to that and it's almost like is to show me that OK, yes, this isn't in your life, but you could deal with it, and that if you had to go and deal with it. But it's amazing how I I get like I have a really good friend who has, you know a daughter that's older that you know has some serious mental illness and I'm just like sometimes I don't know how to deal with it and she's just so calm all the time and I'm just like, how do you do it? Like it's amazing, right.
Speaker 3:I really is.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, I completely agree, and you know you probably would have had to grow grow up a little quicker do you? Know, because you probably had to help.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of I mean. To tell you the truth, I mean I, even at 3, I feel like I was very in tune to you, know what responsibility look like and what adult conversation was like, and in some ways I was. I think I was different, that way unique, and that I mean I think that's why I resonate so much with with music, because, you know, I wanted to understand what people were going through and what they were talking about and their experience. And you know, that's what I love. I love learning about people and when my husband and I first met, I mean he loves melody and he loves the music, but it's really me that, you know, spoke to him about the lyrics of things and what they potentially could be talking about. I mean, I don't know what's their experience, but it just was always very intriguing to me. You know, like I wonder what they're going through, I wonder what's going on in their life, what they write this song, what, what are they talking about?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm reading the Madonna book right now and it's, how is it? It's really cool. The reason why it's really cool is that, like, yes, it's about her, but this writer is kind of pulling things out in the time. Like you know, when she, when she went to New York, that was the time of, like, son of Sam, and so it's like pulling out all these kind of crazy events that were going on, not just her entering New York, but also what was going on in New York, the riots and all this kind of stuff. So her writing is really cool because it pulls all of this and then anybody that she met along the way, it's kind of pulling their background and what they kind of did. So it's really, really interesting.
Speaker 2:Like, I'm only up to the part where she, you know, is starting to become a little bit famous and they've just put out holiday and stuff like that. But she was a freaking grinder. I did not know that. I knew that she was a grinder, but I didn't realize how much suffering she had to go through before she actually, you know, made it Like the crazy stories and the shit and not wavering, not wavering this Like, if you're going to work with me, this is what we're going to do. If you don't like it, I don't care.
Speaker 2:Like putting her career on the line with producers, like people that could take her to the promised land, and they just really thought that that was. They've never experienced that with another artist for a while. Because they're like we're producing you, we're going to, and she's like, no, if we don't agree, we're not working together. So to be like that cutthroat at such a young age, with no like backing behind you, just that determination that you're, she'd say to everybody I'm going to be a star. So whether you want to come or not, I don't really care.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean she was very much I remember looking back and thinking, wow, like I love her music. I mean, you know I'm a child of the 80s, for sure, and to have, you know, women in those kind of situations and as role models, I mean, and just doing her own thing, and I mean some of it I've kind of gone wow and some of it I've gone very inspirational and you know it's. But to know you and to have that purposeful is, you know, it's very impressive.
Speaker 2:It is. It makes me look at her differently, because I didn't really know too much of her background, but it makes me look at her in a totally different light, just like in the first 90 pages where I was like, hmm, that's really interesting. I admire you, even though you're kind of going great, like really off the rockers right now, but I still admire her.
Speaker 3:That's true. Do you remember the Denelle Ice book she put out?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:You don't remember that one? No, I can't remember when it was released, probably the 90s, because I think that's when he was kind of in his thing but they put out a like provocative photo book.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and she was like you see, yes, I do remember that I think like only a thousand were printed or something like that. Yeah, I know, I remember wanting one of those books. My parents were like what the we're?
Speaker 3:not going to buy you. Yeah, what are we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 2:We're not going to buy you play girl, like what the hell's going on.
Speaker 3:Exactly. Oh, I love it All right.
Speaker 1:So you picture on a poster.
Speaker 2:Now we're getting into some country.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, and I have a lot of country influence, like when I when I look at myself now, like I you know, I mean I had a band that I was doing, you know, electronic dance, you know 90s kind of stuff. I love all that music as well. But in my early years country was very influential and this was an album. Dance seals Probably was very comforting for us after my mom passed away and this is a song that my brother and my dad and I listened to a lot and I think the message is really really good.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's everything that glitters is not gold, so it may look nice on the outside but it doesn't necessarily mean that it is. And I think you know it's important to realize that when you follow your own heart and purpose and your own style, even say that's going to come through in the end. You know, like I mean I appreciate your comments at the beginning with pink and stuff and I resonate with pink so much. And when I first did this haircut it was a very big shocker for a lot of people Right, and I did it through COVID because I thought, you know, if I'm going to do this, then I'm going to do it and then I have like a little bit of you know, leeway. I don't have to be necessarily in public or go and do a job and and doing all that. But here's the thing like I just want to be authentically me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I want people to feel that and realize it and you know, that's what this song really actually means. To me is just about, like, being authentic and having those high, you know standards and what's important, and recognizing that and and also standing behind that, you know, come hell or high water like, and so I feel like it's taken me a while here here I am 51, but I feel like right now this is the genuine you know, joel, that's who you're going to get and that's really refreshing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I bet, and I feel like it comes with age, because I feel like I'm at this really weird center time as well, where I'm just kind of done with the bullshit, right, and I'm just kind of like that stuff and I'm like you know what, I just don't. I've always been able just to kind of wake up one day and just like, okay, I'm not going to do this anymore, so I'm going to leave these people on my life. I don't know if that's a good quality or bad quality, right, because lots of times in my life I've been alone, but it's like for good reason to not have these types of people in my life, and so I've been very easy to go and do that, and I feel like I'm quite quick to make those judgments, sometimes at all, and then I second guess myself but later on I see that was probably the best move, and now I feel like I'm going through that again, where it's yeah, I think it.
Speaker 3:I think it goes through all the, all the years to tell you the truth, and you know who. Who are we fucking trying to impress?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 3:You know like, because, and you know they like.
Speaker 2:who are they?
Speaker 3:I think if we're not living, you know our best self, maybe people aren't going to understand that I mean I don't. I mean, let's be honest, they don't. But at least now I can say you know, I'm true to myself, I'm true to my vision. You know I'm the person that you know. I want people to say that, at the end of the day, I mean I don't know who she was, I mean, yeah, maybe she was eccentric, maybe she did these things. We didn't really understand that.
Speaker 3:You know the whole, you know music, sports and all of the other stuff, but it's still me and I know on some level that when we do that, when we have the courage to step into ourselves, like you said in that you know, then there's impact because it shines light on, you know, the area that people can step into their own self, and I think honestly, the world would be a better place if we weren't trying to figure out you know who we need to impress and what we need to do, and if we can just say it like everyone's so sensitive right now no, it drives me crazy, it drives me. Why? Because I don't have a filter.
Speaker 2:So I'm like, I don't know why. Why are like, why are you crying? I don't know what's happened. What did I say? Yeah, I didn't mean it like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right. So for me it's so bizarre because I'm just like I don't, I just don't get caught up in that stuff and I don't take it's like everything is taken so personally, it's like, oh, it's like well, that's not really what I meant. And if I did, then like why do we have to say, like there's this apologies for like everything, yeah, like I'm done apologizing, because we get like, as women, we get in that that habit where it's like, oh, sorry, what the no? Why are you sorry? You're standing for me, get the fuck out of my way. Why do I have to say, excuse me, sorry, no fucking move, you're in my way.
Speaker 3:That's why we connected so well in it.
Speaker 2:It drives me crazy. I want you to tell the story how your, your mom came up with your name.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's. It's very interesting and I think I don't know, are you a past life person?
Speaker 1:or yeah, I totally think that Okay.
Speaker 3:I don't know, you know if I'm right or wrong, but I do feel connected to that part. But when my mom was pregnant, she was watching a television program and there was a singer on there. Our background is actually French and it was a French singer and her name was Joelle and she just thought right away Okay, if she's a girl, that's going to be, you know, that's going to be her name, and I think it's just kind of ironic that, you know, I happened to be born and came out and that's what I wanted to do was sing. You know, first and foremost, like that, you know, that would have been what I said as a young kid. You know, what do you want to do? I want to be on stage, I want to sing, I want to perform, I want to sing, and you know.
Speaker 3:Then, secondly, I wanted to be an NHL hockey player, but you know, that's another story. You need a penis. Exactly, don't have one of those. So, um, yeah, but I mean, I think, how did? How did that? How did that work? And at the time I'm going to tell you something I've been a kid that's been like somewhat traumatized by having that name, because I wanted to be the kid that you could go to the store in wherever and you could get the fridge magnet that said you know the name, right, and I mean my name was never, ever out there.
Speaker 1:Me neither.
Speaker 3:No, so, um, I think for a while I resented the name. You know, I wanted something that was a little bit more knowable, or yeah. Recognizable. But you know now I'm really glad that that I have this name and I feel really privileged to have something unique.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that. I love that too, cause I feel like then we can be stars. Right, you can have the, the, the share, the Madonna, the net.
Speaker 1:Right, it's awesome.
Speaker 2:He's not over, girl, he's not over yet. Nope, right, let's go next song. I hear you talking everywhere, words on the loudspeaker singing in the air Every way. We rodeo right Again. I think one of one of those kind of bands that I don't think gets very much play time, need more play time.
Speaker 3:You know I'm a huge fan of Canadian artists and music. I always have been. I've gone to concerts since I was like six or seven years old. I've probably seen Blue Rodeo God 12 times. Wow, yeah, absolutely love them. I love again the lyrics you know the depth of the song. I mean I think Jim Cutty is an exceptional vocalist Always touched me really deeply.
Speaker 3:You know, going, going to see them and different venues, like you know, inside venues, outside venues, one of my well, when I made money, you know, I say I would say for concerts and my parents were really good at that, they let me go to Concerts, concerts at an early age, like, yeah, you know, probably when we shouldn't have been going, like my you know best friend and I, ali, we went to Corey Hart In excess and I mean those were at the Saddle Dome, right, but we were, we were young still, and I think back to that and I think nowadays like we had a lot more freedom and, you know, range, because our parents didn't come with us, like they let us go to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But Blue Rodeo, like it's just, you know, it's got that thing right. It's like it's got the country thing but it's still got you know a little bit of Movement to it. I guess like and yeah, I've just always, I've always loved them, I've always sang it. It's always been probably one of my top 10. That's been in my you know iPod or before on my CDs or cassettes.
Speaker 2:And remember the first tape you ever bought.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, the funny thing about that is that I remember my first album, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:OK, good Right.
Speaker 3:So I mean, and it was very odd, like it was like Glenn Campbell, and then it was like OK, let's do you two war. And then I had Bobby Brown. So I was, I was really all over the place when he used to. And you know just, I loved all, all forms for a lot of different reasons. I love harmonies. That's why I love Blue Rodeo as well. I think they do really great harmonies. I love listening to the Commodores based on that too, just because you know Lionel Richie, and they just hit it right. I think that's just a beautiful thing when you can make voices like that.
Speaker 3:For sure so. And yeah, like I mean through high school Blue Rodeo, like my brother and I, you know we'd listen to that and it just makes me feel, you know, it just makes me really, really feel and I I think sometimes we get caught in the mundane and not in priorities and I feel like sometimes we need to bring it back and we need to get back to you know. Ok, let's look at the basics again, yeah, let's be human beings again, yeah, but care for each other again, yeah, Love ourselves again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure. Connection I love it.
Speaker 2:I love this next one that you have here. People smile and tell me I'm the lucky one and we've just begun Again, Anne Marie, it feels like this would be like a song from like your mom and dad.
Speaker 3:Totally, totally. And Anne Marie was. You know that was the one I mean I'd sing in the living room with a hairbrush and do the thing with her and somehow I always really resonated with her. Just a purity again. I think you know music from a simpler time. You know it really really is like let's talk about that. You know, I'm just excited because we're having, you know, this beautiful baby and you know we're building a family and it's not complicated.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, it's just, it's just that purity again. And through the years I've been, you know I've gotten that label as well, like it's pink now. But you know, younger, wise, like when I would sing this stuff and you know people would say, oh yeah, you remind me of Anne Marie, but I still listen to this song. This is one of my, you know, feel good songs. If I'm having a bad day driving to work or I put this on because I feel it just, it's uplifting, I feel I feel good again. It reminds me of probably that right, I mean, you know, thinking about my grandma's house and lilac bushes and apple pie baking and just, you know, those simple pleasures that you know just make you remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I think we take it for granted as well. Right, she's played a lot of sports growing up, what's? And don't think you have to answer this question, like on the sport side of things. I just want to kind of get your head off of that Last thing you're thinking about before I drop this question what is the most hurt you've ever felt?
Speaker 3:Oh God, Um, you know, I mean, probably the biggest pain point was losing my mom Were you young 14.
Speaker 2:14 is young.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it was just a. It was a really bad year and a half, like my grandma died, my dad's mom, five days before my mom died, um, and then a year later my aunt died, my mom's sister, um, so it was. It was a very, very trying time. My brother was seven. He had really bad asthma, so we were in and out of the hospital a lot. I mean, when I look back on it now, I mean sports was my, probably the thing that saved me, and music through that timeframe I could get on the ice and I could turn it off for an hour before I had to go back to. You know a reality and, um, it's made me who I am, let me say that. But it was probably the hardest thing that I've ever had to get through.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you're a mom yourself, right, you have children. Well, I have stepchildren.
Speaker 3:I actually have my own. When I met Dale, he had three kids. I was 27. It's kind of an interesting story because my dad got remarried and of course I wanted to have my own kids. That's just. I think that's sort of how our mind works. But then I met him and he had all the qualities that I wanted in a partner and I had written it down and I realized, oh, this is why he has those qualities is because he's already a father, and so I've been blessed to be able to be a part of raising these children that are wonderful. They're unique, successful adults Teneal Brittany and Josh and I also have grandchildren as well, which is amazing Thomas, preston and Enzo.
Speaker 3:And so sometimes I see life like this in it Are you gonna jump in? It was scary. I mean, it was scary to jump in, like what is this gonna be like? I'm 27, we got married at 30. We have these kids. But I also recognize that we're presented with things that we've asked for the challenges. But where is it gonna take us? And I think I've just been blessed to have the experience with them and create this family and community and be impactful with all of them, and now certainly with the grandkids. And would it have been the same had I had my own kids and gone that direction? I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean you know, you know those books from when we were young, yeah, and you know they've been bringing up for me right now and this is like so off topic.
Speaker 2:But do you remember the movie the Craft? Okay, so I watched that last night. So literally what you're saying is tripping me out, because it's like they are becoming witches, because they want something. They want that boy, they want revenge, or they want that boy to like them, they want this. You know she doesn't want all the scars on her back, all of this stuff. And then that lady says be careful, because what comes back to you is tenfold right.
Speaker 2:So it's like we want all this stuff, but then you know we're kind of seeing it, but then there's these other things that could potentially still give you what you want, but it's showing you how bad that you want it. So I love that you said that, because it's totally just reminding me of that, because I was like, oh, that's really interesting to really kind of look at it that way, and a lot of people you know, and I think that's why the unfulfilling goals, right, it's like I want to go and achieve this and then you go achieve that and it's like, well, that was cool. You don't even celebrate it, yeah, because it's not really, it just sounds cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think the thing mostly that my childhood and losing my mom taught me was that you know there's going to be a lot of things that are out of your control, but I've learned to be very adaptable and very flexible and very grateful, you know, because I've been blessed with so many things.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I really have.
Speaker 2:I love that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I love it All. Right, next song I love you.
Speaker 3:Crowd at House Love Crowd at House, Love them. So you know who Crowd at House was originally. No.
Speaker 1:Split ends. Oh, really yeah.
Speaker 3:The two brothers were split ends on and with another bandmate, started Credit House. So yeah, so cool story. Same thing went to a ton of their concerts. My best friend, ali and I, when we were young like just loved them went to a concert. Ended up getting one of the drumsticks of-.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the drummer. Yeah, same thing again, like you know, just, I mean what's the word for it? I don't know Lyrical, but you know they have the passion behind the song. I mean it's a songwriter, I guess it's a songwriter. You know world right, and yeah, they just caught on to them. I think Don't Dream it's Over was kind of the first one that kind of came out, that caught everyone's attention and but they have a ton of great music. Do you know who Jesse Cook is?
Speaker 2:Maybe I'd have to hear something yeah he's a world musician.
Speaker 3:He and his band actually did a cover of Fall At your Feet, which is very beautiful. Take a listen to it when you get an opportunity. Yeah, I don't, you know, it's just yeah, good memories and just loved it. And for me, because I'm a singer, I want to learn the songs. Yeah, so I listen to these songs over and over, and over and over again so that I learn.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And that's how I learned to sing the songs. And my husband recently took me up to learn a couple, a couple duets and you know it's like okay, do it again, do the verse again, do it again, do it again, do it again. And I think that's where the sports thing kind of came in, because when you're working on, you know the basics, you have to do it again and again to get perfect at it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So you have a partner in crime there. Sounds like she's been around for a long time. Who's that? Your best friend?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have Allie. You know we've grown up. We started playing a ring at together. That's how we met. I have another great girlfriend, brenda, in my life that you know is sort of the adult bestie. Allie and I have been through a lot together, though, because she was there through the times that you know my mom passed away and sports and you want to tell me, like a little story about you and Allie, maybe something you guys did that you didn't get caught for.
Speaker 3:Just quite a bit. You know why? Because there was no phones then.
Speaker 2:I know that was sick, isn't that crazy? So safe back then.
Speaker 3:You know, like I think back to that and I think I mean we were bad kids. We were pretty good, you know, overall, but now the stuff that kids have to contend with with phones and videos and everyone taking, you know, so I mean I was very lucky as a you know, younger kid. I got my driver's license right away and I was able to drive, so I was kind of the person that drove everyone around and they let us do whatever, like we'd go, like I said, to concerts. And you know, we went to the Olympics, right, they were in 1988. The Olympus were in Calgary and we were there.
Speaker 2:Kind of crazy, eh All this stuff we used to do.
Speaker 3:Probably the craziest thing we did was steal a street sign, though.
Speaker 2:Oh, stop sign, or what kind of street.
Speaker 3:Like one of those orange flashing ones. Oh nice, and that wasn't our jam really, we didn't do stuff like that. And so we're throwing it into the trunk and I'm kind of like starting to get a little panicky. And so we throw it in and I looked to the left and I slam the trunk and I slam it on her head. Oh no, it was not good, yeah. And then the other thing was stampede right when we hit the age. Okay, we're going. So I'm not sure if you ever went to any of those cabarets that were downtown at the time.
Speaker 2:They were pretty wild. No, I like. I'm originally from BC, so I didn't get to Calgary for a while.
Speaker 3:So we went down and I think we were both like in 18. Yeah, you know, lots of fun, had a great time. But now we're taking the sea train home and we're walking back up to her place. It's in the morning, right? It's like seven in the morning. We're walking across the cloud trail and and here's our mom coming across the street, going to work and we're coming home from. Yeah, yeah, good times.
Speaker 1:Oh, I think it was called the red slipper.
Speaker 2:I miss those days. No, you can't get away with anything, it's like, and it's hard because you do want to have fun. But then you look around Like we have a couple of friends that like to videotape everything. It kind of drives us crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And even though I know that they don't they're not plastering it out everywhere, it's still like I just just want to be able to just do nothing without being recorded. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Wouldn't that be nice yeah.
Speaker 2:Next song.
Speaker 3:All right.
Speaker 1:One thing that I know Is it will get better, beautiful girl.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I mean she's been, she's probably been one of the biggest influences for me, um, musically, life-wise, you know, through some dark times. I mean I really just resonated with what she was saying. I've met her as well, great person and beautiful girl is really special to me because I had a couple of reasons.
Speaker 3:I have two daughters, stepdaughters. They lost their mom a few years ago and that was very, very challenging and you know you lose your mom as much as you are a good stepmom. You know it's never quite the same. I know and I know the pain it feels to lose your mom and I have never wished that on anyone else and the very trying time for them. But I always have just wanted them to know that I'm here and I love them. And then my sister-in-law actually passed away a few years ago as well from breast cancer. She was only 36. And I was scheduled to sing actually at her celebration of life and I was going to sing this and I ended up getting so sick I couldn't sing so we hired somebody else to do the song. But I just feel like it's such an honoring song, you know, it's just like you know the power of women, annette.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3:You know what we have to offer to each other, to the world, and I think in a lot of terms we've forgotten that and I feel like this is a great reminder for women and girls to know that you know we are powerful, we are beautiful, we are. You know all of those things and I think that's why it resonates with me. I have trouble singing this song actually without you know, getting emotional. Yeah, it touches me that deeply.
Speaker 2:It's very interesting that you had to experience that with your stepchildren, don't you think that's so crazy? Yeah, like there's serpendipity to that, like you going through that as a child and then them going through that must have brought your relationship to a next level because you were able to deal with that. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I think you know, then there becomes some sort of understanding.
Speaker 1:They understand your pain. Yeah, and their pain Exactly, if kids are like tricky.
Speaker 2:I don't have them. But I look at my husband when he met me, I had two kids already, right, he was 21 years old. Like who the fuck wants to be a father at 21? Not many people, right? And I look at, like, you know, even though their dad for so long was part of their life, he was still kind of like on the outside in a sense. He was there, but still on the outside. And then when their dad kind of totally fucked off when they were 16, he didn't really know where his role was supposed to be.
Speaker 2:And I feel like over the last call at four or five years now I feel like they're in this place. You know what I mean. Where it's like it's different. You know what I mean Because they've grown up in a different way. In where it's like it's different, you know what I mean Because they've grown, they've seen. You know my kids are 25 or 26 and 28. So it's like they're wanting to have a family. They're. You know they'll probably understand a lot of this once they have kids.
Speaker 2:But I think it's just the older they get and they start to look back and they go oh, that makes sense. Why did it. This didn't happen, or you know how come he wasn't. He just didn't want to step on any toes, right. So it's like such a fine line sometimes when you're doing that and even, as you know me, kind of witnessing that part of it and trying to be, you know, sensitive on this side and sensitive on this side, where you're just like can't we just all figure it out together? Yeah, even that word step that father was saying this the other day. I go why, why do we say that? Like I even say that like people think I'm weird because they think I'm dating like my brother, because I call Tyler's brother my brother.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay. And so, like I've been in many situations where they're like, oh, that's kind of weird, like, oh, he's his brother, I'm like, yeah, my brother. And they're like, well, like your brother in law. And I'm like, no, he's my fucking brother, like if you need to put a little label on it. Make yourself feel better. Then go put a fucking label on it. I don't, but I know it's confusing. But it's just like if you know who I am, it shouldn't be fucking confusing.
Speaker 3:I think, yeah, I think it's, you know labels come from. It's like boundaries it is, and I think it's like how do we feel comfortable with the situation, like how do we, how do we do this? And so you know we, we need to have labels. Maybe people do, I don't. I feel like when I speak to about the kids, I say my children, I don't, I don't say unless I have to get into the further details, because then, everyone goes.
Speaker 3:oh my God, you seem young to have a 38 year old. Well, yeah, I am young, Tell them, you're 12.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:But what was really awesome for me as a step parent and being a step parent parent, is that it was very intentional because it was a choice. Yeah, I mean, having a baby is still, it's still a choice. I get that. But I had to create this relationship with them. Right, I had to look at them. They all have very different personalities. You know, I wanted to respect them, I wanted them to succeed and I was from a step family. That was a bit of a training ground. Let's say that, yeah, I think they wanted it to be a pretty bunch. Pretty bunches don't exist. You know, nothing is is like that, nothing's perfect like that. Yeah, and it wasn't perfect. But but my thing was is that I just really looked at it like you know, I was like I'm not sure what I was doing. You know this beautiful experience, you know that I could have this impact and a big part of my purpose on. You know this planet this time is about, is about impact.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:In a good way, of course, right, like you know, being the example showing the light. You know loving people working on myself. You know I always want to be a better version of myself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I love that. I think it's so powerful to be able to grow. Like it's crazy to see so many people, like when I moved out of BC because I just wanted a better life for my kids, and then I kind of go back and I look right like Facebook scared me when it came out because it was like this holy fuck, I got to go and see all these people really that I ran from Right, right. It was like, oh my God, these people can contact me, I can contact them, and it was exciting. But then on the flip side, it was like you're still doing the same fucking thing, like I don't understand. So you have to evolve, you have to let shit go, you have to be able to allow the next challenge to come in your life for you can go and grow into that next challenge, for you can grow as a human. Love it. People just want to go and like I'm going to keep doing this, I'm going to keep doing this, I'm going to keep doing this.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right, it's like how many times you got to learn the fucking lesson.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just, I mean myself, I don't understand it. You know, I don't get wanting to stay in the same place. I just, I just don't. And I maybe it's because I've been, you know, I've pushed myself but also I've been pushed. So you know, I just, I love learning, I love growing, I love, you know, being a different individual all the steps of the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's cool, I love it. All right, I haven't heard this song for a long time. Okay, is there Evans? Yeah, 430. Big story with that.
Speaker 3:I mean we Dale is from Fort St John, okay, and the kids. So when we first met, he was working in Calgary I'm born and raised Calgary, oh and but the kids were still up there. So I actually moved back to Fort St John for a couple years. It was a great experience, loved it. You know I had a great massage business, yoga teacher. You know I met one of my best people, brenda. I was up there. You know it was a great growth experience. Got to learn you know where, where they were from, and there's a lot of benefit in some ways to a smaller town. You know like everything's close to where. You know you get to do things that we don't necessarily do here. Like you know, jump on a snowmobile outside the back door right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And when we moved back to Calgary, though, because Dale had an opportunity to come back, he had to go out of town to work, and you know I had the kids here, so you know a lot of I mean, it was like, okay, you know we're doing it right, he's out of town, you know, we have the kids at the house and I'm up, you know I'm looking after things now, and so this was a song that I really you know it's true to my heart, because I really would think about this when I was having a down moment, you know, when he was away, and I just thought, if I could, you know, just drive up to see him, you know, for a few hours, I would certainly do that, just to get reconnected again. So I mean everything that you know he's done with his career and what we've done has served us well, it's just there. There's challenging moments, right, when you're living apart for a couple of weeks at a time, and, yeah, I don't know how girls do it yeah.
Speaker 3:Comes back to the house and then it's like I've been the boss for two weeks now and at yeah.
Speaker 2:Right, cook some fucking dinner.
Speaker 3:I'm hungry, right, and now I'm you know he's coming back in and you know there's a bit of a power struggle thing on, and I've been the parent, you know as well. So but yeah, with her, I mean honestly, I think it's a little bit of a struggle, Honestly. I love her also because I feel like my voice is very attuned to her, everything, her tone and everything. So when I sing this song it sounds like her, like it's like I. You know, it's great, it's great, I love it.
Speaker 2:So do you have any pet peeves, Things that drive you crazy?
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, just two, just two Okay, just two Okay.
Speaker 3:Okay, why don't people fucking understand that they shouldn't drive in the fast lane, like just get over. I know it would make it so much easier For everyone. Really, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's one of them. Sounds like my husband. He likes that one too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I'm working on it Because that, you know I'm a kind person. I get behind the wheel. It's like great. You know, I'm a I'm a very diplomatic. You know, I think I can talk anything out mostly, but that's often where my you know little bit of rage.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I think the second thing is that I feel like everyone deserves Kindness, you know, and to be listened. To listen, you know, listened, have the air for people, and I don't think that always happens. And it's frustrating for me, you know, because I don't think that's what I'm trying to say. I want to learn. I may not necessarily agree with what you have to say or whatever, but why wouldn't I take the time to hear what you have to say and and think a little bit about that? Hmm, where does that come from? What are you about? I think if people listen more, then spoke, that we would have a very, very different situation.
Speaker 2:You know, we could just pull them over and say hey, listen, you're not really driving correctly, like I've seen you 16 times, look that way and you had the blinker on this way. I just want to educate you. I just want to hear Drive your minivan home. Hey, do you have a minivan? No, okay, good.
Speaker 3:Because I don't want to. I don't want to cause friction here, but I think we should be able to get that. I don't want to cause friction here, but I feel like and this is just the honest truth I feel like somebody gets in a minivan it drops the IQ somehow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's because the doors open for this on the side doors open for them.
Speaker 3:I call it minivan mayhem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's two in the front, five in the back. It's so much. Thoughts are just they're just gone.
Speaker 3:They're just gone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your next song here. We have this guy like I feel like every weekend in a night I swear to you I will. Brian Adams.
Speaker 3:Yeah, love the guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that.
Speaker 1:You know Canadian music. I cheer that on.
Speaker 3:This was actually our wedding song, wow, yeah, I like obscure a little bit too, like I wanted to have something that wasn't as well known. One of my favorite memories is driving Cause we got married just outside of Jasper and we had the kids, you know, of course, coming with us because, you know, at that point I was 30 and I was like, yeah, I'm going to be the best, I'm going to be the best, and then we got involved in it really deeply and and excited on some level. I mean, of course there's mixed emotions, right, yeah and uh, but we put the song on and they all, you know, we're singing in the vehicle and, you know, just really engaged, and that really warms my heart, you know, thinking about that and and it was a great. It was a great wedding. I wanted a small wedding.
Speaker 3:Um, we got married by the Athabasca river and we got married by the Athabasca river and we got married by the Athabasca river and we got married by the Athabasca river. I have a big family, like it in my dad has, you know, 10 brothers and sisters, and I caused a ripple by, you know, not because it was my first marriage, cause ripple by not having everyone. But here's the thing you know, dale's second marriage. You know we have Three kids.
Speaker 1:I want them to feel comfortable too.
Speaker 3:And I came in and I was like, hmm, now I wanted to do something about it and it was. You know, it felt like it was going ahead it's apart about creating our family Going ahead and it was really important to me to have something small and intimate. And, you know, I just felt like this song completely. Delivered the message that I was trying to get across and what I wanted to create in that moment Beautiful.
Speaker 3:I lived in Jasper for two years and you know there's always those places in that in the world. I'm sure you feel the same way where you're just you feel so connected on some level. Yeah, it's for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like if I'm by the water or the mountains, I'm like it's good, like I. For me it's so good we have some property on Pine Cooley, it's like an hour from here. I'm like a different person when I come back. I just feel so connected and it's just being outside in nature, around water. Right, not about March 1st, no way.
Speaker 3:On March 3rd? No way. Where In the sun is March 1st? Yeah, oh no way.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. We're the water babies, that's right. We have to be like I have to. I'm not in the water, I don't mind swimming, but I would prefer to lay on a yacht in the water. That's why I like being on my boat and just like filled by the water or like whatever. I don't want to lay on the sand by the water, but I like to be on the water, whether it's wakeboarding sea, you know sea doing whatever it is, but I'll jump in, jump out, I'll have a noodle, have a drink, you know, but absolutely I prefer just like that's a calmness.
Speaker 2:and my husband loves to be in the water. He used to be a swimmer, so he's like need to be in the water, in the water, in the water. So it works out best for both of us.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm in the water person too, but being beside the water I always feel you can probably relate right, it's just like a different calmness. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know either. It's losing me a little bit, but it's like a different connection somehow.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, we're on your last song. Do you want a picker? You want me to pick it? You pick it. Okay, you're not going to be surprised. We may as well. We open, we may as well. So raise your glass. Pink, right, let's be ourselves. Girl, I tell you phenomenal. Never seen a concert like that before and I've been to millions of concerts. I have never seen somebody flip through the air. It was just so unreal.
Speaker 2:The whole thing was just like and you do this three hundred and twenty-four times a year, or whatever she does for a tour. It's insane. I commend her for sure.
Speaker 3:I mean, here's the part I don't want to discount any of the other singers out there. It's a hard thing to do. It's a hard thing to sing and dance and do all the things Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:She actually does that and sings. I know she's not lip-syncing when she's doing it.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:And when you see how she trains to do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was watching the other day. It just kind of came on a TikTok and somebody was standing on her stomach and she was singing, she was like, oh, this will be fine. She's like, oh really, this lady, and then this chick's standing on her and she's singing. Fine, I'm like what the hell and upside down. And you know, that's how she trained. It's impressive, Do? You have like a song or, sorry, a story behind this, or are you just like this thing? She's phenomenal.
Speaker 3:You know, on some level I've just really, really, really resonated with her. I feel like there's been a lot of times in my life being an athlete I feel like I have a really well-developed feminine and masculine side, you know, and I've got that through the years. I mean I've been not bullied but, you know, called out based on that and I feel like when you look at Pink, you know she's a very strong, powerful woman. She's physically well-developed, right. Obviously, she doesn't take a lot of shit from anyone and you know, that's why I think I've connected with her so strongly.
Speaker 3:Her message, I mean what she does, I mean she. You know, you see those people that are in this industry and it can be very easy to fall into other people's judgments maybe, or you know how they look at your own body, how they look at you on whatever, and I feel like she holds her priorities very strongly. You know her family. We also resonate with her because Carrie Hart is a motocrosser and her family is a big motocross family, you know, so that's a big one as well. She stays true to her message. I feel like, you know, she just does herself and God, that's refreshing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and she's trying to teach women to do that, yeah, through her music.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right, and I think more people, more women, need to do that.
Speaker 3:I agree, I went to the concert as well, had a great time with my friend Brenda. Her sister and her friend Sandra passed away a couple of years ago from cancer as well, but we got to experience that time together and you know, so it's one of my great memories, you know. With them, and you know I just feel like more girls need to have, you know, powerful mentors and examples of you know who you can be and what you can be, and that you can dream and you can do whatever you want to do. You know let's stop, as women, cutting each other down. Let's stop that. You know let's help each other. You know, let's build each other up.
Speaker 2:I agree, I think there's just too much of it and I didn't really realize it, like this is when I was saying I'm kind of seeing a lot of different things as you get older, didn't really, didn't really realize how much of that and I didn't really realize how much of the girl aspect I've left, because I've always been a tomboy, most of my friends have been males, and now it's almost like I'm starting to get angry, right, I'm starting to kind of see that, that starting to really piss me off.
Speaker 2:You know, and you're just, I'm just seeing it everywhere, like I really am. You know, it was so it's so ridiculously, but in a sense like wouldn't have probably bothered me like three years ago, but like a really good friend of mine, they were going away, they're going to kind of do this whole navy seals thing and that pissed me off, cause I was like, well, I want to fucking do that. Why am I not going to that? Yeah, well, it's, there's no girls in the navy seals and I was like that's probably the fucking rudest thing you could fucking say to me right now.
Speaker 2:Like I wanted to like stab them in the face Because I like that it wouldn't have infuriated me three years ago. I would have been like left now, I don't know why, but now I'm like I'm just not okay with that. Like some of this stuff I'm just not okay with Like even even reading in some of that Madonna book, like just like the woman movement, and I'm like what, Like I just feel so like not in tune with my species and that frustrates me, yeah. So I feel like I'm kind of getting kicked in the face a lot with this kind of stuff where it's like what, we were only able to vote like what 40, what the hell?
Speaker 1:Why don't like?
Speaker 2:the hell. You know what I mean. I kind of feel like stupid about this stuff.
Speaker 3:Oh, you know what, natho? There's just an opening, like it's just. I think there's a real strong push right now for you know, this consciousness coming through and this awareness coming through.
Speaker 1:Like.
Speaker 3:I mean, come on, people, we are going to help trans, transform the world.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 3:Because of who and what we are, but we have to be together in that and that's why I love people, you know, like Pink, because she's really driving that and she's in the forefront and she's being a leader and she is a warrior and we have a lot to offer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we do.
Speaker 2:No, I loved it. I loved spending time with you today, like that was so much fun. But a couple of like do you want people to go and follow you on social media? I'll have you kind of share your platform.
Speaker 1:Absolutely yeah, okay, let's hear it.
Speaker 3:I am awakened to you on Instagram. That's probably the best place to find me. You know it's a little bit of personal, a little bit of professional as well, so you get to see all sides. You get to see, you know, my wonderful family. You get to see what I love and what I like to do. You get to see what I do as a career outside of music. And, yeah, like and thank you so much. This has been amazing. Always love spending time with beautiful people like yourself.
Speaker 2:Thank you, but before I let you go, I want you to leave us with some words of wisdom.
Speaker 3:I feel like the best possible thing that you can do for yourself is just to really be yourself, and in order to do that, you need to recognize that some things you have control over and some things you don't. So the things you have control over lean into that. Yeah, that was beautiful.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for joining us today. On Music Junkies Like, follow, subscribe. I'll give you all her socials. What an amazing time. That's nice. It's just so refreshing.
Speaker 3:Oh, love you girl, I love it, okay, thanks.