Get ready to be taken on a rollercoaster ride of emotions and nostalgia as we explore the mesmerizing world of music and wrestling. I'm your host, Annette Smith, and joining me in this insightful journey is our music-obsessed guest, CJ Plain. He opens up about his home studio, the sentimental significance behind its name, and his intriguing book project that beautifully interweaves his love for horror, metal music, and truck stops.
We walk down memory lane as we recall our favorite wrestlers and express our thoughts on the evolution of wrestling over the years. He shared his experiences of living in different parts of the world and the significant role it played in shaping my musical preferences. Moreover, We talk about his complex relationship with his father and how music became a medium of bonding for us.
Towards the end, CJ Plain shares his transition story from internet radio to podcasting, and his surprising success with music reactions on YouTube. We delve into our personal experiences of being interviewed on podcasts and discuss the relevance of Queen's "Don't Try Suicide" in today's world. Join us as we explore our shared passion for music, discussing our personal experiences, and the transformative power of music.
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Get ready to be taken on a rollercoaster ride of emotions and nostalgia as we explore the mesmerizing world of music and wrestling. I'm your host, Annette Smith, and joining me in this insightful journey is our music-obsessed guest, CJ Plain. He opens up about his home studio, the sentimental significance behind its name, and his intriguing book project that beautifully interweaves his love for horror, metal music, and truck stops.
We walk down memory lane as we recall our favorite wrestlers and express our thoughts on the evolution of wrestling over the years. He shared his experiences of living in different parts of the world and the significant role it played in shaping my musical preferences. Moreover, We talk about his complex relationship with his father and how music became a medium of bonding for us.
Towards the end, CJ Plain shares his transition story from internet radio to podcasting, and his surprising success with music reactions on YouTube. We delve into our personal experiences of being interviewed on podcasts and discuss the relevance of Queen's "Don't Try Suicide" in today's world. Join us as we explore our shared passion for music, discussing our personal experiences, and the transformative power of music.
Watch the full episode on YouTube
Check out the Playlist on Spotify
Follow us Everywhere
Make sure to HIT that LIKE BUTTON and SUBSCRIBE to our Channel to be notified of new episodes!
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Welcome everyone to music junkies a podcast about people sharing extraordinary stories about how music has impacted their lives.
Speaker 1:Welcome everyone to music junkies. I'm your host, and that's Smith, and who is the music God? He's a single father, paul, culture enthusiasts, book addict, movie fan and lifelong music collector. He's currently working on his first book, a horror story that combines the love of horror, metal music and truck stops, which I love. He's been a musician, singer, songwriter, radio host, concert promoter and he host a podcast called of the noise report. Please welcome CJ pain. Welcome to the show, my friend.
Speaker 2:It's. It's playing PLA, and it's playing, sorry. You know me hey you can change it.
Speaker 1:It would suit your personality, for sure.
Speaker 2:I. You know what it's. I heard all the jokes growing up.
Speaker 1:I have to make a comment. You know you have like one of my favorite albums in the world on the wall behind you and that's that purple rain on album. That is like one I love Prince. I think he doesn't get enough credit. He probably does get lots of credit, but I love Prince. I love Prince. Old school Prince, love, love, love, love.
Speaker 2:But I love it.
Speaker 1:You have some meeting and some AC DC.
Speaker 2:I love it all time favorite right there Pink Floyd, nice, I love it. Got the goonies, got the goonies. Got my hero academia, bob Marley, over there. I love it I built my own little studio. Actually I we had a big walk in the closet and it I had all myself in the dining room and, as you can imagine, with a wife and four kids in the house, it was nearly impossible to record anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So she decided to lose her mind and go off to proverbial fucking rails and she had an affair and all that shit. So once all that should happen, I decided you know what- you're going to go back in the closet.
Speaker 2:I mean, I come upstairs and I was pulling all her shit out of here and I got to looking at it. I measured it and I was, like you know, 11 foot six long and six and a half foot wide just a perfect size for a small little home studio, you know. And look everything out, painted it, hung up on my posters, started to soundproof it, put all my stuff in here and we smacked a bottle of champagne on the wall and we named it and my buddy even made me a little plaque to commemorate it. It is the house of fuckery studio.
Speaker 1:So I love it. That's awesome, so jump into your playlist today. What was your experience putting that playlist together for me today?
Speaker 2:You know, I chose songs kind of that's got a lot of memories attached to them, yeah, but also songs that I loved and songs that I think are killer songs and don't get enough credit sometimes. And, yeah, some of them I feel of them are pretty well known songs, but a couple of them are, I'm sure, lesser known songs. So, and to be honest, I'm going to be completely honest, I don't even remember what 10 I chose, like that's okay, we're going to go through them and we're going to start with your first one.
Speaker 1:are you ready?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to pull my little list up here and you're going to cheat on your Rock.
Speaker 1:and Roll is King. It's a great tune.
Speaker 2:So that one, as a wrestling fanatic I'm, the Saturday mornings as a teenager were pretty much dedicated to, was NWA at the time, but it became WCW. I didn't do anything on Saturday mornings until I got to see the Rock and Roll Express and that was their entrance music. And for the longest time I didn't know what it was, I just knew it was Rock and Roll Express entrance music. And my uncle, marty, who I got so much of my musical knowledge from, came over one morning I was watching and they come out and he walked through and he's like oh, rock and Roll is King. I was like what he goes, that song that's like orchestra, rock and Roll is King.
Speaker 2:And I've been trying to, you know, find this song forever like what it was and I thought it was something that they had written for them. And he goes no, it's an electric light orchestra and blah, blah, blah record. And I was like take me to the record store and now I want that record. And he did. He drove me, you know, like 35 miles because you know I grew up way out in the country like the running joke among my friends was my dad was a truck driver because he, he brought us our sunshine, you know. So that's how we got sunshine, as dad brought it on his truck.
Speaker 1:Who are your three favorite wrestlers?
Speaker 2:Ah well, it depends on if you want to go into tag teams or singles. I guess Rock and Roll Express is definitely out. There would be a top three Probably. I say Sting was probably one of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just because I love Sting and everything he's done. And the other one is kind of an oddball pick is Magnum TA. I you know Magnum was one of them wrestlers that he had his career cut short because of the motorcycle accident. But so many wrestlers after him, their entire gimmick was based on what Magnum did first back in the 80s. You know whether it was John Layfield, whether it was, you know, rick Rude, whether it was James Storm, whether it's Adam Page. They're all based on that sort of blue collar cowboy, motorcycle riding, beer drinking. Even Steve Austin has said that. You know that gimmick. Michael Hay said that gimmick kind of originated from what Magnum TA was and I just I loved Magnum.
Speaker 2:Magnum was that consummate blue collar guy and you know he was Dusty Rhodes partner and and what not. So you know blonde hair, long blonde hair. Yeah, I just liked Magnum. There was something about Magnum that you had to like. You know he was always that. There's always that hero that was going to come back in the end. No matter how much you beat him down, he was always going to come back. And just reminded me of a lot of people I knew growing up, like a lot of the lot of my friends dads were like Magnum in person, you know, so kind of always related to make them, and there were a few that scared the shit out of me. Firstfully, nikita Kholof was one. You know, nikita is actually a minister now one of the crazy.
Speaker 2:I've ever met. But Nikita was terrifying as a wrestler man that that he had that, that Russian sickle man, it was just vicious. And you know there was a few others that I definitely, as a child, was pretty intimidated by. You know Vader was one of them. Vader was always very intimidating. And haku you know they say haku was the toughest man to ever step in the wrestling ring and he was another one that you know that he had no, no chill side like haku walked in that ring and he was there to kill your ass and go home. That was it. It was like the only speed or gear that haku had was like destroy.
Speaker 1:So I miss wrestling back in the day to where it is now right, I still like it.
Speaker 2:I mean, I still love wrestling, but it's there's something about the old days that it didn't see back then.
Speaker 1:Now it's like it's maybe it's just because we're older and we're watching it, we're like, yeah, like that's totally fake.
Speaker 2:Back then it was just seems so yeah, like when you were a kid you didn't realize that a lot of those guys went to the bar together and drink together. Yeah, it was that. You know there was that kayfabe of it. You know it. There was that division and now there isn't. You know, you see Damien Priest and and Dominic Mysterio be the bad guy and then they'll turn around 10 minutes later and show him meeting the make-a-wish kids. Yeah, it was like. You know, you would have never seen Larry Zabisco or Harley race or or Roddy Piper doing make-a-wish stuff, because it would have completely destroyed their character. You would have never seen the key to pull off Vader doing, you know, usa for the troops type of stuff, because it wasn't what they were and they took that really, really serious back then, like it was, it was a lifestyle it definitely was, and I think back then they were obviously paving the way for people now wrestling, but back then they were just like coming up with random shit.
Speaker 1:They're like let's try this, let's try this, let's try this one.
Speaker 2:They had the territory so you could go from one to the other. And you know you could go from Texas to Tennessee, to Ohio Valley, to New England and they were completely different places. And now it's just, you know Hollywood AEW at WWE and you have. Nwa, which I'm not going to say a lot. That's owned by Billy Corgan and it is what it is. Yeah, we won't get into. All right, let's, we won't get into the giant walking penis.
Speaker 1:That's right. Let's not do that, like Kesha.
Speaker 2:They would make a, they would make a perfect couple.
Speaker 1:That's right. They definitely would All right. Next song Great song title though Dead Jailer Rock and Roll. Like what a song title.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I was a fan of Hanoi Rocks. Michael was the singer of Hanoi Rocks before he went solo. I was a fan of Hanoi Rocks, huge fan of Slade and Angel and Sweet and those glam bands. But when Michael went solo after Vince Neil killed Razl and all of that and all of that and all that happened when this song come out, it was like a bolder lightning for me, mainly because growing up on the farm, being the son of a truck driver, I had one mission in life I was going to be a rock star. And all the teachers, my grandpa, everyone that's cute. That's cute. What's your backup plan? My backup plan I was going to be a rock star. That was my backup plan. There was no other mission in life. So I knew from a very early age that I was either going to be dead in jail or I was going to play rock and roll. And I've played rock and roll and I've been to jail. So I guess I'm just waiting.
Speaker 1:My time on the other side.
Speaker 2:But yeah, like I said, when I heard that song it was literally like holy shit. He just wrote my life in a song when I was a boy I always wanted, or when I was a boy. I can't even remember the lyrics of the song. I have a hard time remembering lyrics because of my brain injury. But anyways, like I said, he said he always knew it was dead jail or rock and roll. It's always been my song, like every since it come out.
Speaker 2:I've actually got to interview Michael and we've talked about it and I have a partial tattoo actually drawn somewhere that is going to go on this arm here and it's actually themed around the dead jail or rock and roll song and all of that.
Speaker 2:So I showed it to Michael and I told him when it was done. You know, I think if I ever got to meet him I want him to sign it so that his signature could be tattooed like along with it. And he's like, absolutely, he's like I think that's the coolest thing ever, like it's. You know, he thought it was amazing that somebody connected like that and he's really one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet Like he's. He just keeps getting better and better. Like you know Michael Monroe is one of them guys that he'll put out a record and you think he couldn't possibly do anything better, and then he come out with another one and Steve better, and then another one, and it's just like the man is 60, I think he's 64, 65 years old this year and still putting out records that are just freaking phenomenal. Man like man.
Speaker 1:I'm so jealous, like I wanted to be Michael, you know so share a little bit about what it was like growing up on a farm and, obviously, being a son of a truck driver.
Speaker 2:Oh, a lot of hard work, whether I wanted it or not.
Speaker 1:You probably stand up a lot, right you like? How long has your dad gone for?
Speaker 2:You know my dad, sometimes he would be home for periods of time, but the majority of time my dad was gone for a month at a time. He'd come home. He'd come home towards the end of the month and you know he might be home for three hours, he might be home for 10 hours, but he'd be gone again, you know. So there'd be whole stretches of the month where and this was during the time when there were no cell phones or computers or nothing so yeah, he didn't call home Like he was just gone. Like we knew I mean we were we were well off because my dad made a lot of money as a truck driver, like that truck was always moving, and you know my dad, even back in the 80s, made $2,000 a week driving that truck. So you know we were pretty well off. Like we didn't live like it. You would have never known.
Speaker 2:But you know, I knew, we knew what my dad made and you know $2,000 a week back then was I was pretty, pretty good money for the 80s to make $100,000 a year. You didn't even have a degree, Like you were just driving a truck. But you know it's a lot of hard work. I mean I had to do things that I hated. I babysat all the time because my stepmother stepmother worked, so I had a brother and sister that I took care of from a very early age and house was heated by a wood stove so I was responsible for cutting a lot of the wood. Like we would cut wood on Saturdays, the whole family would get together my grandpa and my uncle, marty, and dad if he was home and me and we'd all go out. We'd cut all the wood and we'd bring it back and it got chopped up and divided between everybody.
Speaker 1:But being the customer's- we had a wood stove too, and you know, and being the customer's.
Speaker 2:I always thought I was smarter than everybody and my grandfather, who is currently 96 years old and still tough as John Wayne Leather, was always smarter than me. Like I didn't challenge him so much, but I would make smart little remarks thinking I was cute or thinking I was quick, and my grandfather just always had a reply Like I didn't want to go cut wood one morning, I wanted to watch wrestling. So I asked my grandpa hey, can I stay home today? I said I don't feel like going out. Grandpa's like yeah, absolutely you can stay home. Awesome. Started to walk away Before I could even get about three foot away. The old boy looked me dead in my face and said gonna be awfully cold sleeping on the porch, though Ready in five. He was like that.
Speaker 2:Like you know, we had the running joke in the house that me and my brother, we were so bad growing up that by the time we grew up my grandpa's willow tree was growing. He was a stump. So I asked my grandpa what are you going to do if that willow tree runs out of branches? I didn't think he'd have an answer. He didn't have to think about it, turn around and look me dead in my face and said don't you worry, boy, if that tree runs out of branches, since your grandma got plenty of rose bushes out back. My brother, come around the corner. What do you say? What do you say? Better, straighten your ass up or you're in trouble. I got the message, man. I was like no fuck with no rose bushes man.
Speaker 1:Did your parents influence your music at all? What kind of music did your dad listen to in your step? My dad did a lot.
Speaker 2:My stepmom was really in the Motown so I have more of an appreciation for Motown now than I did back then. My dad though my dad was very much into stuff like electric light orchestra. Bob Seeger is my dad's number one thing. My dad will physically fight you over Bob Seeger, and I mean that in the literal sense. If you were to say, if you were to walk up to my dad and say Bob Seeger is an asshole, he will fight you in the park and not go away. He's just very touchy about Bob Seeger. So I listened to a lot of Bob Seeger. I listened to a lot of bad company. Boston was a band that their debut record. I wore out so many copies of that Boston record you know I'd play them until you just literally wear the grooves out of them. The Doobie Brothers Led Zeppelin even though I wasn't a huge Led Zeppelin fan. Ariel Speedwagon heard a ton of that. Nugent was somebody who played a lot.
Speaker 2:My uncle Marty, I think more than my dad. His uncle Marty even to this day has a massive music collection, a vinyl. He has them in milk crates. And if you go in my uncle Marty's house, the back wall of his living room, from the floor to the ceiling, his milk crate stacked up with all his vinyl he's probably got I'd say he's probably got four or 5,000 vinyl, you know, from across the years and if you can name it from that era he's got it, whether it's Dan Fogelberg or Clapton or you know whether it's the Eagles or whether it's he likes, all the good guys. Yeah, like you know, like I, I spent time at my uncle's house because he has that old Kenward stereo with the trash can headphones and I would go there and I would sit in front of the stereo and I would just listen to records for hours and read the, the liner notes and read all the stuff. So you know, a great, great bit of my knowledge came from my uncle Marty's music collection.
Speaker 1:So I love that, though, like I love that. You know, my parents, my mom loved like the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin and all of that. And then my stepdad was 11 years older than my mom, so then I was, you know, jerry Lee Lewis, chuck Berry, he liked kind of that kind of fifties music. So when I was growing up I had all this assortment of music and I'm grateful for that because it allowed me to where I am today, where it's not like I'm just one, you know, it's just classical rock or it's like I love everything, because they listen to such different music together and they could, you know, still live together with totally different music tastes.
Speaker 1:You know, when I met my husband, even though I was like I listen to a lot of old school punk, he was not new school punk but you know my old school punk was like, you know, butthole, surfers, dead, you know, dead milkman, like that kind of stuff. Yeah, exactly, and he was more like rancid and you know, bad religion. I thought that that's bad and I love them. But it was cool that we were, we listened to punk, but it was totally different to realms of punk, but I loved like 80s and hairband and like you know all of that stuff.
Speaker 1:So I loved that somebody influenced you with that.
Speaker 2:The crazy thing with me is I've gone through phases in life where I've gone from one place to another or I've been shuffled around, whether it was through my dad sending me to live with my mom, or my mom sending me back, or me living at my grandpa's house because my dad was going all the time and I hated my stepmom, whether it was being in foster care. I've gone through all these different places that I've lived in each one of them, you know, I've been introduced to music in little pieces here and there. So I've been. I've been this sponge, yeah, so it's kind of how I got my nickname from a teacher and it comes from.
Speaker 2:You know, started out with the classic rock stuff that we listened to in the truck with my dad. And then my step mom come along and I started saying with her and she listened to R&B and I would listen to Casey K, sim and Rick D, so I heard the pop stuff. And then, you know, at 13, my dad sent me to live in California with my mom because I did some dumb shit and got in trouble. And you know, being from a very small town, it was all over town that, oh, he did this and dad's like, hey, we got to shuffle you out of town for a while for the, for the smoke to clear. So yeah.
Speaker 2:So I went to California. Dad sent me to California in the very early months of 1983, right as Def Leppard quiet riot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Motley Crue.
Speaker 2:Motley Crue, all of those bands were starting to break. Mom lived two and a half blocks off a sunset strip, so 13 year old me went from living on a 400 acre farm to being dropped dead in the middle of the hair metal shit.
Speaker 2:And, of course, mom worked in Redondo Beach, had to take a bus every morning for hours, so she would be like get up and go to school. Yeah, of course, you know, because of 13 year old kids definitely going to school instead of hanging out on the sunset strip with all the rock guys that he wanted to be and all the you know hot women that were barely dressed in anything and you know, getting on the bus and going to Venice Beach and shit like that, like I didn't go to school. I didn't go to school. I mean, I did go to school, but I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's awesome, I love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah so. But I went from that. And then I come back and my cousin had gotten into punk. Hey, you got to hear this new band called dirty rotten in the south Sweet and that led to gang green, that led to the drop kick Murphy's, that led to Milachi crunch, that led to agnostic front and mad ball, and in all of those bands. And then it went from there. You know, I got into. I had a friend who introduced me to Bob Marley and I got into reggae. And then my uncle bought a hotel and it came in islands, so I started working for him in the summer, so I got to see the reggae.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Culture hand because they had a house band there and it was a reggae band. So I come back from that and started college and my first roommate came in. It was this black dude and he's like man, check this record out, it's just dude named ice tea. I was introduced to ice tea and public enemy and exclan and and two live crew and all of that. So I've kind of gone from place to place picking up this music along the way and now here I am at 50 plus ish and I've got 3.5 million songs in my collection across 100 genres and this stupid amount of knowledge that is really good for nothing other than doing it, you know.
Speaker 1:And this lady tells me to pick 10 fucking songs. And how am I supposed to do that? And that was that was like 10.
Speaker 2:So I really kind of I picked songs that are sort of directly related to my life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm really really excited about the story with each one of them.
Speaker 2:So let's get back to the story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so including the next one. Let's hit it, let's play it, so highway song.
Speaker 2:That was me and my dad song, really that. That was one of the songs you know as a truck driver staring at the highway for endless hours. That was a song that was just kind of personal to us, like it was. I don't get along well with my dad. I've actually I've spoken to my dad probably three times in 35 years, sadly. So that's one of the few good memories I have with my dad is us listening to that song. Also, the song Roll Me Away by Bob Seeger is another one that we kind of had, this mix of songs that were we kind of classified as driving music or road music and they were mostly songs about being on the road. So highway song was the main one. It was just Is there a reason why you don't have a relationship with your dad?
Speaker 2:A lot of it has to do with the relationship I had with my step mother and when shit went down I ended up in foster care and dad took her side and said on my side, but it is what it is. I don't have hard feelings, for some I it just is what it is Like. Life goes on. So I'm not going to let that shit poison. You know, like I have so custody of my 11, soon to be 12 year old, and I'm not going to let that let that make me be less of a father. In fact it's the opposite. Like I have vowed my whole life, I will never make the mistake of it. I'm not going to let that shit poison. I'm not going to let that shit poison. Like I have vowed my whole life, I will never make the mistakes of my dad. But I can tell you and this is going to sound bad, I can tell you the single one time my dad has ever said I love you.
Speaker 2:To me it was July 8, 1976. And it was at 738 pm, around dancing all night and I was tired and they had a 76 Camaro. It was parked right outside the side door of the hall where they had the reception, right behind the you know bride and groom's table. So dad took me outside, picked me up, took me outside, put me in a back seat, covered me up and said I love you. That was the only time in my life my dad has ever said that.
Speaker 2:Wow. It shocked me then, because up to that point he'd never said it. Even at that point I was at almost seven, eight years old and I just I'm not gonna be that kind of dad and I tell my sons all of them I love you every single day, like I don't ever want them to not know, and I just I don't know, like I don't have hard feelings, like I said, I'm not angry about it, it just is what it is. I wish it would have been different, but it wasn't. So I moved on and I lived a lot of adventures, because dad wasn't there to stop me from doing a lot of dumb, stupid shit.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I have a dad like that too. I barely know him. He has my name tattooed on his arm and I'm like why do you even have my fucking name tattooed on your arm, Like you don't even know who I am.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I think I went into foster care when I was 15. I didn't speak to my dad again until I was almost kind of I think it was 28, 29. I was in Little Rock and he just called me. One day I was outside raking leaves. My cell phone rang and I didn't recognize the number. So I picked the phone and I said hello. He's like hey, what are you doing? What the fuck is this? He said it's your dad. Fuck, did you even get my number? Like you know, like I've moved I've moved like 314 times.
Speaker 2:At the last time I saw you Nobody had my number in the family. Like I don't even know how dead got my number. But it's all right, cool. So we talked for a while and things were cool, said if you ever get back up this way, you know, blah, blah, blah. So Christmas rode around, we drove up there and he acted like an asshole the whole night and ended up having a screaming match with him in the kitchen in front of my great grandma. And I was done after that and didn't talk to him again.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of pent up stuff, right Like it's just like I said, it's not.
Speaker 2:I'm not angry about it, it's just my dad is. My dad has spent so long being a truck driver, being alone in that truck. Yeah, he doesn't know how to communicate. Yeah, and I'm the opposite, like I'll talk your head off, so I don't have a problem communicating and I don't miss words. If I got a problem with you, you're gonna know it. I'm gonna tell you, you know, in multiple languages sometimes. But my dad is the opposite, like he'll have an attitude and you can tell he has an attitude, but he won't tell you anything is wrong. He just has that look.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And the last time I tried, I think it was 2010. I had gotten married and had to step kids and you know, my kids and my youngest one had just been born and I wanted them to meet him. And we went to this restaurant and you know, we sat there for two hours and you know, in two hours that man probably said three words. I sat there the whole night talking to him, asking him questions, and he was like yep.
Speaker 1:Crazy.
Speaker 2:And after two hours I just think you know what I'm done. I'm just I got better things to do, Like I'm not. You can't get blood from a turd, you know. I was just like fuck it. If you don't want to try, dude, if you don't want to put the effort through, you know I love you. You're my dad. I respect you Tough as nails, just like my grandfather is, because he doesn't know any better, but I'm not going to exert all of this effort.
Speaker 1:You know you got to meet me halfway. It's got to work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know so I was just like, fuck it, I'm done. And we haven't spoken since. And you know, I went to jail, unfortunately, about a year later and my ex-wife called my dad to get the money to get me out of jail, which pissed me off because I was like, look, I would only have to serve like four or five days in jail, but you paid them 800 bucks that they didn't rightfully deserve. So now I owed my dad a bunch of money, which is one of the worst things you know. Yeah, and I was like of every one of my fucking family you could have called, called my dad like the guy I don't speak to. So of course, you know, dad still like you didn't pay me my money back.
Speaker 2:Well, technically I didn't borrow the money, she borrowed the money. So if you want your money, get it from her, like you know could let's be honest, bro you know I would have never called you for the money, like. So you know, don't, don't make me responsible for money. I never borrowed or would have borrowed to begin with. I was, I was perfectly content sitting in my ass in jail for the four or five days.
Speaker 2:I wasn't fucked up about it, like, but whatever it's it just.
Speaker 1:It is right, yeah, so All right, let's get on to the next song Ever gray.
Speaker 2:Strangely enough, we we segue perfectly into that one, Because Monday morning apocalypse literally is a record that Tom England, or Euglund the singer of ever gray, actually wrote it about his failed relationship with his father and all of the shit that his father put him through, you know, with the abuse and the name calling and all of that. So Monday morning apocalypse is literally Tom saying you know, how long are you going to hold me underwater and make me feel like I'm drowning?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It just was another record that when it come out, this whole record was was pretty much Tom laying his pain, pretty bearer of how he felt about his dad and the animosity that you could tell he had. And I was just like you know what I feel, that like I I'm not mad about it, but I feel like I can really relate to the, the frustration, that the frustration more than the anger. So that's very much where that song comes from, is just you know.
Speaker 1:I'm curious, just because obviously you like such a wide range of music what was your first concert you ever went to?
Speaker 2:Well, I'm already took me to a show. I was 11 years old. I got to see 38 special and iron maiden. Oh nice, when for rainbow? That was my very first show. It was, I want to say it was, march 16th of 1982 at Wing Stadium in Kalamazoo and at the time I really didn't understand the significance of it. Now I look back on it and I think 38 special and iron maiden opening for rainbow, that's a cluster fuck a bands to have open like you have a Southern rock band opening for a metal band who's opening for essentially a blues based rock band.
Speaker 1:You know like we're back, then they probably took whatever gig they could fucking get.
Speaker 2:They took what the label told them to do. Yeah, you were contractually obligated at. The label said go out. And all three of those bands were. They were major label bands. Now maiden was just starting out, but again they were not in a position to say, no, we're not going to take this tour. You took what they gave you.
Speaker 1:So yeah, 11. What did you think of Eddie?
Speaker 2:Um, I thought it was awesome, yeah, one of the first metal shows I ever saw. I didn't get full blown into metal yet. I was still very much more into the. I loved loud music but I was still much more into like the. The new gent in Bob Seeger and Slade was a band that I was massively into, like Slade, even when choir riot first come out, when they released come on, feel the noise All my friends are like, oh, that's a fucking dude, that's a Slade song.
Speaker 2:My friends are like what? That's a slate? They stole a Slade song, you know. And my friends didn't know who stayed was and I knew. So then they did the second record, condition critical, and they released Mama. Mama were all crazy now and I was like, oh, they did another Slade song, you know. So I make the joke now and it pisses people off that quiet riot were the world's best Slade tribute band and it was a wall with her did more than Slade. Well, yeah, but two of their three biggest songs were Slade cover. So am I really wrong by calling them the world's best Slade tribute band? Like I mean honestly, listen to Slade singer and listen to Kevin DeBruh and they're they're really, really freaking close man like they're, you know. So it's. I don't think it was intentional. Honestly, I don't think Kevin tried to sound like the other guy, but I think it was just what he did, naturally.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's fine, like it's cool, like some people sound like they all kind of sound the same, like they're all dressing the same, they're all doing kind of the same thing.
Speaker 2:I mean it was just. It was awesome, because you know Boston, when you listen to Boston, when you listen to bands like Ariel Speedwagon, when you listen to bad company, and those bands mean they were big and bombastic and loud. But hair metal come along, they just took it up a notch. You know what I'm saying. Quiet, Riot and LA guns and and winger and those bands they took it up a notch. Man they had it was, it was bigger hair and in flashier clothes and you know better guitar amps that were louder.
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 2:And you know it was. You know, you know we were just another band out of Boston. That was a great song, but it didn't really compare to come on, feel the noise. So it was like it was just they had taken that sound and they just wanted to listen to it loud.
Speaker 2:You wanted to like you know, and it just got bigger and bigger and I got into punk. Punk was that other thing. Like punk, was that next level, you know, whether you listen to the Ramones and craft, which were more basic, you know punk, or whether it was you know, dirty, rotten, emissives and gain green, which was 100, 150 miles an hour or it was. You know the dead Kennedys and the circle jerks were more political, you know. And when I heard the dead Kennedys, that was another thing, because Rollins was just, you know, rollins was just next level, like this shit, the dude said and then he left a dead or not dead Kennedys Black Flag.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, you know Black Flag was with Henry Rollins man, when Rollins went solo and started doing spoken word. I don't agree politically with much of what Rollins says, but you can't listen to Henry Rollins and not say, holy shit, I'm a smart motherfucker. And then you know he believes it with his whole heart and that's awesome. Like I don't have to agree with you, like it's just.
Speaker 2:I've seen Henry Rollins live and there's really nothing to compare it to because the guy is, you know, he can go from the most serious whisper to cracking a joke on the drop of a dime and it's like that's talent, Like to go from the story, to go from telling the story of coming home from the store with your best friend and watching your best friend die in your arms in your living room to, yeah, you too has millions of fans. I'm not one of. You know it just that quick. It's like that takes a true talent to switch gears like that man and the code switch. And you know, I think that's. I love Henry Rollins. I think he's fucking incredible. So God bless, henry, you know.
Speaker 1:I love it, so you're. You've now obviously are a truck driver and so you were, so what is kind of the your favorite city that you've traveled through?
Speaker 2:I hated the East Coast. I hated the East Coast not because of the places so much. Driving a semi through places around the East Coast, baltimore up that way in New Jersey, all of that really fucking difficult. And the Port of Philly is the worst in the fucking world, like it's just the no offense to anyone for Pennsylvania who's listening. But they could turn Pennsylvania into a parking lot and it wouldn't hurt my feelings and fucking least. But I love the West Coast. I would say the West Coast, but Wyoming, utah, montana were probably my favorite because it was just so.
Speaker 2:The beauty yeah is just hard to describe. And that's your seat. It's so big and so majestic. You know when, when Yellowstone, the TV show come out.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I was like I've driven through there like I've, you know, and there's nothing like it to just to have a mountain and both sides of you, you know, even wake up in the morning and just to see that, you know, was fucking surreal. On, texas is pretty crazy. Texas is pretty extreme, but you can go from a shit ton of traffic to no traffic in Texas Easily. Kansas and Nebraska are crazy because it's so flat that you can see something in the distance, and Kansas especially, like I didn't realize this until I drove it like the first time alone I saw the silo in the distance and I could sort of silo was just down the road and I started driving and I counted and that silo was like seven miles away and it looked like it was 100 yards down the road. It was so flat that it just it's so deceptive in Kansas.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So but it beautiful, I mean, nonetheless. Iowa to Iowa was another place. That's super flat shit, tons of corn, but you know it's great to drive in because it's easy to drive, you know, like you don't have to drive up mountains or down mountains. Yeah, tennessee is a real challenge to driving. Driving to the Smoky Mountains when you're pulling 85,000 pounds is, you know, challenging at best.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what about some crazy truck driver stories you can share? What?
Speaker 2:Um, I think my craziest one was before I started driving. I was actually with my dad. I was seven, seven just turned eight maybe and we stopped for dinner one night and as we were coming around, the backside of the truck stop, I've seen this, some of my trucks sitting there and I told my dad. I said dad, I said it's the snowman's truck, there's a truck from Smokey and the Bandit no way.
Speaker 2:It was Gary Reed's truck and I was like snowman's truck. Dad's like nah, there's some trucker who got a goddamn truck that looks like you know Smokey and the Bandit fan. All right, you know. Logical explanation for a seven-year-old. So we go in the truck, stop, walk through, sit down, we order, we get up, start walking to the bathroom, come around the corner, walk towards the bathroom, in a very back booth Gary Reed's sitting there with about seven other guys. I immediately know it's Gary Reed. Pretty hard to mistake Gary Reed. So I stopped dead in my tracks. I turn around, I run back to the table and I tell dad. I said man, dad, gary Reed's in the back, that is the snowman's truck. Dad's like oh, it ain't Gary, it's just some guy who looks like Gary. Even seven-year-old me was like no, that's Gary Reed. Bro, I know Gary Reed when I see Gary Reed.
Speaker 2:So, being the bullheaded, sarcastic little asshole that I was, I stopped at a table and I looked at him like that. He's like can I help you, son? Like you, Gary Reed? He said yes, I am. I said my dad said it wasn't you, I knew it was you. Gary's like where's your dad at? I said he's over there. Gary stands up, yowls across the thruster and he's like, son, come over here and have dinner with us. My dad stands up and looks and his eyes are like big around. He's like, oh shit, it's Gary Reed. So we had to have dinner with Gary Reed. What it was? They were filming Smokey and the Bandit too.
Speaker 2:No way they were filming the road scenes and they were away from catering and they got hungry, they stopped to have dinner and just wandered upon them. So extremely nice guy, extremely funny, but much like all of the other times I was seven years old, sitting at a table of adults who paid no mind to the seven year old sitting there. So they were telling jokes that were completely inappropriate for a seven year old and I didn't say nothing, I just kept my mouth shut and listened. And that's what got me into trouble, because by the time I was eight and started actual school, I knew every Jean Tracy and Catfish and Elmer Fuddpucker and you know, if there was a trucker joke to be told, I knew it. So I went to school, they sent me to school and all my friends were like knock, knock, knock, knock. I'm like man fucking knock knock joke. Do you hear the one about the chicken house? My teacher, you can't tell that joke. Why? I don't know how it goes. I didn't understand at seven or eight years old that it was inappropriate to do that. So I raised kinds of hell growing up because I was always that kid with smart S remark or smart comment. I read too much and I knew shit that you weren't supposed to know. You know I read books about history, except I didn't read the books about history. I read the books about history that they didn't tell you in school, shit that you weren't supposed to know.
Speaker 2:Helen colored a blind, cute little girl who learned to read and write. Yeah, and Helen color was a dog. She would come a hardcore communist and wrote books about overthrowing the US government. Well, this was during the 80s, when the communist was a bad word. You didn't say communist. So of course, fifth grade teacher, we're going to watch a movie called the miracle worker. Awesome, we watched the movie. Fifth grade, me volunteers. Hey, did you know Helen color grew up to be a communist and wrote books about overthrowing the government? Get out, get out of here, go to the office. And of course, dad would get the call or my stepmom would get the call. Your son's in the office. What do you do? Oh, he said you know? I said Helen color was a communist.
Speaker 2:My grandpa always defended me. Well, it's not lying, I can bring you the proof. And the teacher's like well, he knows better than to say stuff like that. It's disruptive. And he's, he only does it to make the teachers look stupid. Of course my grandpa would always be like well, trust me, I've met most of the teachers in that school and they don't need a lot of help with that. So I come from a family of smart assets. So that's right.
Speaker 1:It's awesome All right Next time, love it. This is your karaoke song.
Speaker 2:Take me to karaoke and I promise you, before the night is out, that a horribly butchered version of making love out of nothing at all will be sung, because that it's. People always say what's your guilty pleasure? Or you know what? What band is your guilty pleasure? And air supplies, kind of mine. I don't think it's a guilty pleasure because I love them. But you know, most of my friends know me as the punk guy, the metal guy, the hard poor guy. So you know, by looking at what's on my wall you would probably never guess that I'm a massive air supply fan and I have every record in their collection, including the two solo records that Graham and him have done. So yes, I love air supply. More than that, I love Jim Steinman, because Jim Steinman wrote that song. He also wrote Bad Out of Hell, he wrote Total Eclipse of the Heart and a lot of people don't know that making love out of nothing at all was actually supposed to be a Bonnie Tyler song.
Speaker 1:And she could kill it.
Speaker 2:Bonnie rejected it, so he gave it to Graham Russell, who recorded it, and then Bonnie changed their mind later and recorded her own version of it, and Total Eclipse of the Heart was actually supposed to be an Ariel Speedwagon song that Bonnie got to first and recorded it. So there's these. You know little stories. That again, just stupid knowledge. It's really good for nothing other than this.
Speaker 1:So I love it. I want you to share a little bit about your podcast. When did it start? How did it get started? What's it about?
Speaker 2:I actually started before the podcast. I did internet radio. I had a former friend who had a radio show and I would call in and do this. I would make stupid comments, I would tell jokes, I would just he was. He was someone who was very quick with it, very sharp tongue and very good at comebacks. So I would call his show just to try to throw him off his script, basically, and I was very good at it. So he showed up at my house one day with his box.
Speaker 2:Okay, fuck, is that? It was a Beringer podcasting kit? Okay, awesome, no fucking idea how to use it. You know, were you going to learn? Okay, so we set it all up and I started recording and the first couple of shows were horrible because I didn't really understand quite how to use the mixer yet and my playlists were awesome but the silent quality wasn't there. So once I figured that out, I did live internet radio and I it was on.
Speaker 2:He had his own little station, so I did my radio show every Thursday night and Saturday night I had first show was first show was called auditory slam, that was the rock show, and then on Saturday night I did a country show called back roads radio and it was all country and Americana, bluegrass, all that kind of shit. So I played this massive amount of music and I would interview people and take calls and just sort of do this what I'm doing now essentially. And I did that for a long time and I finally hit a wall to where, you know, I put 30, 35 hours a week into these two shows and I'm not getting paid for it. I'm not making any money. It's a really expensive hobby, but you can't really monetize an internet radio show that much. So of course, another buddy comes along and says well, you know, if you turn it into a podcast, put it on YouTube, you can do this, you can do that, you can monetize it. Yada, yada, yada, chiching, you're talking my, you're talking my kind of music. Now You're talking money here. So I went from a live internet show to a podcast and that was even better because now I can kind of record on my own and take my time and pick and choose my topics and been pretty fricking surreal like I have interviewed some of my biggest musical heroes, people that 15, 16 year old me lying on a bed in a foster home I was a typical teenage kid.
Speaker 2:I had my wall covered in pages of metal, age and circus and Rolling Stone, and those collages of pictures went with me from house to house to house to house and you could never have convinced 16 year old me that I would get to interview Michael Monroe. You'd never been able to convince me that I would interview Mitch Malloy. I'd interview the Tesla guys. I'd interview the guys from great white. I never convinced me that I'm extremely good friends with Ron Keele, who you know. One of the very first records I bought of my own money was the Right to Rock. I saw him in concert numerous times in California and you could have never convinced me that as an adult I could take this right here. Go in my contacts and hit Ron Keough and call him up and be like, hey, when to come to dinner Saturday night, you know are you gonna be in town? You know like just that's what it's done. So it's still surreal to me.
Speaker 2:10 years, almost 11 years later, I still do interviews and it never gets old. That feeling never goes away of holy shit. I'm really interviewing such and such and you know like I've got to interview through hip hop, through country, through punk, through metal. I've interviewed some of my biggest heroes, you know, and that's crazy to me to do that and to know that and I hope it never changes. You know, like it's.
Speaker 2:I love that the internet has kind of opened up that and allowed us to all of us. You know, like, whether, whatever level you're on as a podcaster or an internet radio person or a YouTube person and when I started the YouTube channel, I love music reactions, I'm gonna do music reactions. I love music reactions, but there's certain ones that they drive me crazy. You know the ones that do the reaction they'll listen to 30 seconds and stop, no talk, and they'll listen to another 30 seconds, stop and talk. That drives me fucking crazy. Just listen to the goddamn song and then give you a reaction at the end, but that start, stop, start, stop, start, stop. The other thing is is the ones who you can obviously tell are just fake as shit. They're the ones that you know jump up and kick the chair over, throw the headphones or they'll get up and they'll ah, dude, seriously, like it's a good song, but it ain't that fucking good.
Speaker 2:Like come on, bro, like you know, it's good, but it ain't throw a $300 pair of beats by Drake. Okay, like, come on, bro, it's. You know, as a musician, it's kind of like dropping the mic, mic drop. No, bro, you just dropped $185 shirt S1 microphone on the floor. Now the musician in me wants to punch you in the face because that's a $185 microphone and 90% of us podcasters cannot afford a $185 microphone to do this shit. We operate on $20 Amazon specials.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:So you know that part of me was kind of like I can do better. Nobody wants to listen to the 50 year old know-it-all talk about obscure bands. I figured, okay, I'll do these reactions. I'll probably much like the radio show. I'll get 15 or 20 listens and cool whatever. On my 360 third day of doing the reaction channel, I had 14,800 subscribers and I hit a million views. So I was like, okay, holy shit, maybe people do want to listen to the old guy who ran around about obscure shit, so go with it, you know.
Speaker 1:I love your passion for it. That's awesome. I think more people need to have more passion in their podcasts, not just doing a podcast to do a podcast. You know, I've been asked to be a guest on quite a few podcasts and from when I do my podcast and then I go and be a guest on somebody else's podcast like I just was a little while ago and I was kind of mortified Like it was really disorganized and it was like I was like and it seems like that a lot when I'm a guest and I'm like, yeah, it's fucking like this.
Speaker 1:I don't know where this is gonna go, but I feel like I'm organized and I do my research and I feel like you know, the energy is high and I allow my guests to talk and we have some fun. I feel like I'm controlling the podcast when I'm on a guest podcast because I feel like if I don't, I don't like dead air.
Speaker 1:So it's like if my guests are filling the air, I'm not gonna interrupt them, but if there's air to be filled, I'm gonna fill that and I'm comfortable with that. That's just the type of person I am. So it's kind of crazy to see what's out there, especially when you want to like I'm talking about me, especially when I wanna be so successful with this and this is what I'm fucking competing with. That's the part that drives me up the fucking wall.
Speaker 2:Right, and that's the thing I won't say. I've been a guest on a ton, but I've been a guest on a few and there were some that you could tell they were built for it. And then there was a few that were it was just kind of like, okay, awesome, like hey, thanks for having me, but don't fucking expect me to go out of my way to really promote this shit. And my shows are, like I said, my shows are kind of a beautiful chaos. I don't have a script. 90% of the time I like that. We do the opening, we hit at the basic beginning and we just kind of go wherever the hell it goes. Now, sometimes that's awesome.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I've had at least two instances. I can name where I ended up asking the person hey, do you mind coming back and redoing this? Because it ended up where it sounded like me being a squirrel guy, correct, you know, you ended up like the scene from Ice Age, you know, with the little squirrel chasing the. Yeah, that was kind of what it turned out to be. So it was kind of like yeah, it didn't really didn't really come across the way I wanted it to. So, you know, let's touch up a few spots and they're normally pretty. Yeah, it's fine. I've had a couple interviews with people that were disastrous, either through the artist not wanting to do the interview or the artist just not giving a shit about their career. As far as taking it seriously, yeah.
Speaker 2:I've had one band whose name I won't name. They didn't want to talk about the record. They wanted to talk about how drunk they got the night before at the guitar players wedding. That's what they wanted to talk about and no matter how much I steered them to their record, which was a phenomenal record, sadly they didn't give a shit about talking about that record. They got drunk the night before at the guitar players wedding and they wanted to tell the stories of the beer they drank and the booze they consumed and this and this and this. And I'm kind of like not what we're here for, see how people are.
Speaker 1:It's insane.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that's not what Spine Farm Records contacted me for. Like you know, like if I wanted to hear some interview somebody about getting drunk, well, I would interview Murphy's Law or Geng Green or oh, we could just go down to the news, like interview the new people outside of a bar.
Speaker 2:Right. So Johnny Winners. I interviewed Johnny Winners. Johnny just didn't want to do the interview. Like Johnny was like pulling teeth. God bless the soul. You know I'm not gonna say a single bad thing about Johnny because Johnny is a legend. But you could tell Johnny just had better things to do and he didn't give a shit about this interview. Like his answers were yes and no. That was it.
Speaker 1:That's too bad though.
Speaker 2:He was not gonna elaborate, no matter how hard I tried. So it lasted about seven and a half minutes and I was just like, yeah, you know what we're done. Like I'm just it was like talking to my father, yuck, and I was just like, yeah, we're done, it's cool. You know, I'm not mad about it, it just and you wanted it to go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was Johnny freaking Winners. Like who am I to tell Johnny Winners about an interview? Like look, you're Johnny Winners, bro. Like I ain't gonna hate it. Like do your thing, like you know you're, let's get to your last song.
Speaker 1:Are you ready? All right, okay, do you want to pick it, or do you want me to randomly pick it? Um, last story of the day, ah, you know what let's go with?
Speaker 2:Let's go with the Queen one. Okay, awesome.
Speaker 1:That's so funny, because I was actually gonna pick that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's go with the Queen one, because I All right, here we go.
Speaker 1:Let me play some of it, One, two three, four, one yeah. Don't try suicide.
Speaker 2:Um, don't try suicide. So so many avenues with this song. One next to this band right here who is my all-time favorite band, pink Floyd. Queen is number two. Queen, just the epitome of what a great band is Complete refusal to play by any rules. Um, queen did what Queen wanted to do, whether it was Broadway-ish, whether it was rock, whether it was metal-ish, whether it was deep and contemplative, freddie wrote what Freddie felt. Um. So, one minute you got Good Old Fashioned Loverboy. One minute you got Best Friend. One minute you got Bohemian Rhapsody and then you got this song which everybody knows. Another one Bites the Dust or Under Pressure for those bass lines, but to me this has the best Queen bass line of all time, that dun, dun, dun dun dun dun.
Speaker 2:I have always wanted to cover this song For one. It's just a fun song and you gotta love a song when somebody says all you do is get on my tits, which, as a kid, completely no idea what that meant. I wasn't British and I was young, so I didn't understand what it meant. But you know, I was 11 years old and it was fun to say tits. So it's, with everything going on in the world today, to social media, to the internet, through political divisiveness and all of the left, right me, to us, to you too, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The message of the song still relevant. You know, don't try suicide. It's just.
Speaker 2:I can't help but think that somebody is missing the opportunity to use this song in an anti-bullying or anti-suicide commercial, like they're missing the boat that you could really do something. Incredible Also, the fact that no band has ever covered this song. Of all the Queen songs that just scream to be covered, this is one you almost never, ever, ever hear, and it was a B-side to. I can't even remember what it was a B-side too, I think it was, and I want to say it was another one. Another one Bites a Doth, but I was in California and I got a 45 at a thrift store. It was the B-side to it and I didn't. I don't even remember what the A-side is, because the B-side don't try suicide was the better song, and it's just one of them songs that's always stuck with me. It's, you know, it's a really consummate Freddie type of song.
Speaker 1:When you think about Freddie.
Speaker 2:Mercury as a person, as the rock star, as the entertainer. You know, don't try suicide, nobody hates. It's just, it's such a fucking Freddie song and again, it's one of my very favorite Queen songs and for so many reasons, like I said, the bass line and the melody and just the message itself, you know. So it's one of them songs that it just doesn't get enough respect at all, like it. It's kind of maddening to me that I will mention this song and even Queen fans generally won't always know this song and it's like how do you not know this song? It's like literally one of the best Queen songs. Dude, it's a good phenomenon, like I love your passion for this song, I love music. Like music you can tell.
Speaker 1:You can tell, you can talk for hours on it right, which is good, and you know I so appreciate you coming on Music Junkies today and sharing some of your songs and some of your stories. And but before I let you go, I would love for you to share some words of wisdom to the viewers.
Speaker 2:Words of wisdom. Number one, I think the biggest thing. I said it in the biography family is almost of importance to me because of my, the way I was raised and all that All my family. Right now we share this big house and I have my two oldest sons here, I have my youngest son here, their families. We share the house with my mom and we. Nothing's more important to me than family. So remember that. Friends come and go, acquaintances come and go.
Speaker 2:I realize family can be toxic sometimes, and even us as a unit, we have our days where we want to choke the shit out of each other, but I don't know how I would do it without my mom and without my sons and everyone else. Family is so important. So remember that at the end of the day, you have to answer for yourself and those that you've raised or are raising. So don't ever take that for granted, like it's when you lose that you don't get it back. When your children grow up and they move on, you're like cats in the cradle the sound cats in the cradle, you know. Yeah, you can't get that time back, so don't take that for granted.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like, don't ever take that for granted, no matter how much you think life is moving on or how fast life is going. Take that time to tell your kids I love you, tell your parents you love them, tell your brother and sister you love them, because you don't know when it is, they'll be gone, like it. Just it can happen so fast and I've had it happen so many times where I've literally spoken to someone Instead of talk to you tomorrow, and then you wake up in the morning and it's like, oh well, something such dying.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Literally just talk to him two hours ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, such great words of wisdom. I appreciate you so much, cj, for being on the show. Like, follow, subscribe. I will give you all of his social media content. If you can go check out his podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for joining me today. I so appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thanks for having me Like. I love doing this. So if anyone wants to check out any of my stuff, just type in the music god CJ Plain into you Google. You'll get the YouTube channel, you'll get the podcast, the noise report. There's also another, a second podcast that it's kind of dormant right now, but we're gonna bring it back. It's gonna be called the loud list. It's gonna be where we're gonna do like top five lists and top 10 lists of really crazy, random, silly shit. So yeah, and the rest of the playlist is there too. She'll have. There's a ton of other cool music on there too, you know, with some reggae and some alternative and some country and some blues and even some Australian stuff. So yeah, if you like the randomness of the previous songs, there's a bunch more.
Speaker 1:I love it Awesome.