Music Junkies Podcast

The Symphony of Kevin Joly: From School Bands to Biggie Theories

December 25, 2023 Annette Smith / Kevin Joly Season 3 Episode 22
Music Junkies Podcast
The Symphony of Kevin Joly: From School Bands to Biggie Theories
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Get ready to ride a rollercoaster of emotions with our extraordinary guest, Kevin Joly. In this engaging conversation, we travel in time as Kevin paints a vivid picture of his life, significantly shaped by music. His tale takes us from his elementary school days when he was rocking out to Def Leppard, to choosing a wedding song that evokes cherished memories. What better way to understand a man's journey than to explore the musical scores that have underscored his life?

Navigating through Kevin's life, we touch upon his early days practicing Judo, his concert experiences, and his fascinating travel stories, including a trip to Japan. What's more, we delve into his perspectives on pop culture, revealing his man crushes, opinions on rap music, and intriguing theories on the death of Biggie Smalls. We also delve into his personal life, his love for his amazing wife, and the struggles they faced together while he was setting up his business.

As we draw towards the end, Kevin talks about his pet peeves, the need to be early everywhere, and his daily discipline. We also reflect on the bittersweet memories of long weekends before children, his favorite love song, and the wisdom he has to offer. So, stay tuned, as we unravel the extraordinary life of Kevin Jolly, a journey marked by the rhythm and melody of music.


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Speaker 1:

Welcome everyone to music junkies, a podcast about people sharing extraordinary stories about how music has impacted their lives Welcome everyone to music junkies. I'm your host, annette Smith, and today's guest. We try to do a podcast. I don't know. A year ago I didn't click record, so he's graced me with his presence again and that's a great. Kevin Jolly welcome.

Speaker 2:

Thank you.

Speaker 1:

Thank you. You're going to learn a lot about Kevin, so I don't want to give a big introduction. But before I get started, kevin, what was your experience putting your playlist together a year ago for me?

Speaker 2:

I'm trying to remember what was on that playlist. I mean, it's one of those things like you're more of a music person than I am, but you know like if we were to play name that tune, I wouldn't probably be able to name two or three out of 100. But last night I was at an event and there was a guy and he was asking me about all the instruments and I got cymbals and drums. That's all I could name out of the whole thing. He thought I was joking. I'm like I don't know any of this stuff. But no, I was fine. I mean going through and picking some fun songs, so you probably have to remind me what they were.

Speaker 2:

No you'll get a reminder. Perfect.

Speaker 1:

All right, we're going to start with your first song. I think this one's going to bring back a lot of memories for you.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we're going to death labyrinth. This is back in elementary school.

Speaker 1:

Hey, back when you were young picking up the ladies.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if I was doing that in elementary, but I definitely thought I was something.

Speaker 1:

Was there a certain time that you just loved Death Leopard back then, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think growing up I kind of like Death Leopard, Beastie Boys. We're kind of like the songs back then. So that's what I liked.

Speaker 1:

What kind of guy were you in elementary, like, what do you mean?

Speaker 2:

Like jock wise.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like were you a jock, were you super popular A stoner.

Speaker 2:

I was more of a jock. I guess I was somewhat popular. Some of the teachers liked me, some of them hated me.

Speaker 1:

Did you have a favorite teacher?

Speaker 2:

I did. I believe he was my grade 5 teacher. He was actually a gymnast. I think his name was Randy Falk. He was a super nice guy, athletic guy, so obviously he liked all the athletes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a good thing. And then high school Same.

Speaker 2:

I think junior high was where I was kind of lost In between friends, didn't really know what I wanted to do. But then high school, yeah, like grade 11, grade 12, I think I got all my confidence back.

Speaker 1:

What was kind of like the most difficult thing that you experienced in high school.

Speaker 2:

In high school, I think. For me, because I was doing sports, I was gone a lot of the weekends and so obviously I missed a lot of the parties, the extracurriculars. It was hard to make. All these guys would come on Monday or Tuesday and talk about all these fun things they did on the weekend and I was competing, which was still fun and it was still awesome and I wouldn't trade it. But I think I missed a lot of the partying growing up that a lot of people got. So that's probably the hardest part.

Speaker 1:

Looking back, Were your parents super strict.

Speaker 2:

No, we never had curfew, it was more of a respect thing, we were always allowed to drink. We were always allowed to do whatever. I remember, even as a 12 or 13 year old, having a drink at my dad's beer was never a big deal and we never had a curfew. It was always hey, if you're going to be out past and they would just tell me a time 10 o'clock midnight, depending on how old I was Make sure you text your phone or you know, and don't get in the car with someone drinking.

Speaker 2:

It was kind of the only rules. So because I didn't have any rules, I never really generally stayed out that late. I didn't have to stay out until midnight. So I was like I was tired, I go home at 10. It was kind of nice that way, where we never really had any rules per se. But yeah, there was always a respect thing that my dad or mom expected of us.

Speaker 1:

I love your mom and dad. Bane, I'm going to kick your ass. I love your parents so much. What is one thing that you learned from your dad? And one thing you learned from your mom?

Speaker 2:

From my dad I remember this. It used to drive me absolutely bonkers. Every time there was something go down he'd be like I've taught you not to be a sheep, don't ever be a sheep, always be a leader, never just follow the crowd. Be a leader and it would just drive me nuts because I'm like I am. But in hindsight I mean I see what he was trying to accomplish and hopefully it worked. And with my mom I think her level of compete my dad had it too, but my mom was just like she's just a dog on a bone.

Speaker 2:

She just will not let anything go. She wants to lead, she wants to fight, she wants to be an example, she wants to do all of those kind of things. But it was weird. My mom was in the corporate world, my dad was a teacher. So I actually grew up more with my dad than my mom, because my mom would be working during the summers and my dad would be off with us. So we ended up traveling with my dad a lot more. We ended up obviously doing way more things with my dad than I did with my mom, which I don't know. Maybe it's role reversal, I don't really know.

Speaker 1:

That's why you're such a sensitive guy. I guess. Alright, next song. Are you ready? There's so many stories you could show.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, this is a song from your wedding, isn't it? Yeah, that's why I threw it in there. I thought you'd like that.

Speaker 1:

That's right. Kevin did a wedding dance at our wedding that probably should never be shared to the world ever.

Speaker 2:

No, and it's amazing, tyler didn't leave you during that song, or Sylvia didn't leave me, it's like who's? Wedding is this, oh my god.

Speaker 1:

What was your first job?

Speaker 2:

ever. My first job ever, I mean, obviously I did like newspaper delivery. It was more like the Thursday shopper, I think it was called. So I did that because I couldn't really hold a job doing sports that much. But I remember delivering papers for a little bit. But my first kind of real job I did dishes at a place called Luigi's oh, and my buddy's dad owned it and yeah, I just did dishes making five bucks an hour. So if there was a Thursday night, friday night that I was actually off, or home, or Saturday night I'd go in and work there.

Speaker 1:

Do you have a job that you had growing up that you absolutely hated?

Speaker 2:

Well, I did a couple jobs that I didn't really like. One of them is roofing. So one of my buddies actually owned a roofing company, so while I was in university, in the summers, I would do roofing, and that's horrible. That's a horrible job.

Speaker 1:

Did you experience with Pot when you were roofing?

Speaker 2:

No, no, not really. But there would be some Friday afternoons we'd start drinking, so the roof would be really nice and then it would start the wave as the day went on. But no, I never really got into any drugs, or I never really was around it. Just because of the sports I think I was more around like oxy and steroids and those kind of things were way more prevalent in my life than the just because of injuries or guys trying to win. So performing enhancing drugs were more prevalent than I would see that a lot more than I would see regular drugs like weed or cocaine?

Speaker 1:

When did you get introduced to Judo? How did that kind of come about? Who suggested it? Why? Did you pick that sport.

Speaker 2:

So my brother is three years older than me and so we grew up in Lethbridge, and so in Lethbridge it's kind of an interesting history. With the World War II they moved all the Japanese into Lethbridge to work on the sugar beet farms and all the concentration camps were there. So when the war ended, all the Japanese stayed, or a lot of them did, and so it just so happens at the time Lethbridge had the number one karate instructor outside of Japan and a number one Judo instructor outside of Japan. Wow, so in Lethbridge. So that Lethbridge had the Olympic training center for Judo, and it still does.

Speaker 2:

But so I was too young at that time. My brother started karate, but you had to be like eight years old and I think I was five and it was. I was too young to start karate, but I was able to start Judo. So my parents said, well, we got to do something with this guy. So they threw me into Judo just because it was the only thing that would accept me at my age. And then there was times I wanted to quit, there was times I thought about it, but my parents always had the rule that just finish the season and then decide yeah. And every time I finished the season I just kept going and then I actually got pretty good at it.

Speaker 1:

So do you excel very quickly through Judo, or is it like how do you go from belt to belt?

Speaker 2:

I mean, I think it depends on when someone starts, but I started so young that I think it was just a long journey. I think I got my black my first three black belt when I was 17. 16 or 17 years old it's posted in Blackbridge, I could go look at it. And then another two or three years I got my secondary black belt, and then I could have got my third and fourth, but I just didn't bother.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so what's the hardest move in judo?

Speaker 2:

Well, landing on your head. Yeah, that's probably the worst one.

Speaker 1:

What would be like? Do you see a lot of arms and legs being broken?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, there's arm bars, chokes, I mean a lot of knee surgeries that end up happening, but I think a lot of concussions is probably the biggest because you're landing on your head a lot or you're climbing heads or you're doing that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1:

How many judo moves do you use on Sylvia, I used to.

Speaker 2:

I used to try to take her down and then she'd pull my leg hairs. That was her defense move. It really hurts.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome. All right, next song.

Speaker 2:

Little guns and roses. Yeah, I've always liked guns and roses.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, incredible band. Right, We've seen them together. We went live to watch them.

Speaker 2:

yeah, he was a little bit more washed up when we finally got there to go see him.

Speaker 1:

but he could barely fit his leather jacket on, but he still had that weight. He had tight pants on A little aggressively tight, but yeah like I feel like when I was growing up, I feel like he stuffed his pants.

Speaker 2:

He might have. I never really noticed.

Speaker 1:

Maybe he just has really big balls.

Speaker 2:

He might Right, it's a lot Moose knuckle pants, ha ha ha, ha, ha ha.

Speaker 1:

What was your very first concert that you ever went to?

Speaker 2:

I never really went to concerts growing up. I remember my brother won tickets to go to something in Edmonton. It was like one of the radio station ones and I don't even know who was playing. It was all like kind of alternative music. I think it was the Bear in Edmonton that had a contest and my brother won some tickets so I went with him. I didn't know any of the bands, I mean it was fine. But my first real concert was Metallica in Toronto.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, how was that? That was awesome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they did an amazing job. So that was that's probably 10, 15 years ago. And then we went to Guns N' Roses and I've been to Snoop Dogg Ha, ha, ha, ha ha. Some of those kind of concerts now I've been to Chain Smokers, mickey Allen on. Been to Chain Smokers. I've been to Swedish House Mafia, so what's been your favorite. I think Metallica was my favorite.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you just bought tickets there and flew to Toronto, or?

Speaker 2:

Well, I ended up going with one of the investment companies and they had locks and stuff like that. So that's cool. It was a lot of fun. That's awesome.

Speaker 1:

So what's been one of your? I know you've traveled the world. What's been one of a trip that's really stood out for you?

Speaker 2:

I mean there's probably been a couple. I mean, my favorite place to go is Hawaii. Yeah, If I had to choose, I'd probably just choose Hawaii again.

Speaker 1:

But obviously being in.

Speaker 2:

Japan was really really cool Just seeing that kind of stuff, the culture, culture and just the you know it's just it's kind of weird. It's like a third world and first world country, depending on which block you're on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So it's, yeah, it's an interesting obviously place.

Speaker 1:

What was the most interesting thing you ate there?

Speaker 2:

I remember there was a fish on there, like there was a little fish and it was still breathing and you had to eat it while it was still breathing, really, yeah, and I was like that's a little much, but Did you eat?

Speaker 1:

it Well, you do it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean there's peer pressure. Yeah, I love it All right Next song. Not Lincoln Park. Yeah, I've always. I like them, actually when I started in university and I really I don't know why, I know I think both of their songs sound very similar, but yeah, yeah, I just really like them.

Speaker 1:

What is one of your like? Do you have any funny stories from university Like? Something maybe crazy, you guys did, or. Just trying to think university and or we were a good guy the whole time.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean we, yeah, like we would go to parties, Like I remember I had a buddy of mine and we hung out the whole time we still do but he he was living at home with his, with his mom, and his mom was, you know, pretty hard ass and and I remember like it was St Patrick's day one year and massive solar storm and he sold her on this idea that he was going to go to the library and and I had an apartment at the time and we ended up going with some party and his mom was phoning my mom all night long Trying to find us and my mom was pissed Cause she's like you guys are like 27 years old, like what is happening, you guys, this guy's mom waking me up all night long.

Speaker 2:

Like well, he's 20 years old. Why did he have to say he's going to the library? Like, is that a 16 year old girl going bowling, or you know? So it was that was. That was pretty funny that night. Yeah, we both woke up at like eight o'clock in the morning. I swung by my mom, my mom's losing it. I'm like what she's like. You know, darren's like Darren's mom's been bowing and I'm like, oh man. So he just went to the university showered, went to class.

Speaker 1:

Were you a ladies man in university? Did you date a?

Speaker 2:

lot. No, really I had a I kind of had a steady girlfriend for at least two years of university. That's actually who I moved to Calgary for. She ended up moving to Calgary and then I ended up moving here too and then we broke up and I stayed and she didn't. Was there a reason why you broke up? She was a little bit of a loose cannon. Yeah yeah, she ended up over time at overdose thing and passing away, but that explains a lot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah for sure. Have you ever had a stalker? I don't think so. Nobody's ever stalked you before I know it sucks.

Speaker 2:

You know, I kind of like why not?

Speaker 1:

What do you think that girl that bought your picture is doing with that picture?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, hopefully it's lost.

Speaker 1:

Good thing there's not. Money was going to charity.

Speaker 2:

That's right, it was a charity thing.

Speaker 1:

All right, next song Make it fast for this part.

Speaker 2:

This is all the machine gunning. I'm a talent, I won. I think this is the best song I've probably ever made.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you do, I think so yeah.

Speaker 2:

Probably how they put it together. It's probably, yeah, one of the best ever.

Speaker 1:

The video is pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Do you have a favorite movie?

Speaker 2:

I'm kind of like I've always liked the Top Gun movies, yeah, and the Rocky movies.

Speaker 1:

So Do you like the new Top Gun like?

Speaker 2:

Maverick, yeah, I really do. Were you impressed by it? I was. Yeah, they did a really good job, and I'm glad they've put so much time in between too, cause you know we could be at Top Gun 7 by now with how Tom Cruise runs movies. That is very true.

Speaker 1:

And he still looks good too, that's right.

Speaker 2:

I think that's just Scientology, just helping him out. I think yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1:

Do you have any man crushes, like if you could be any star actor, like who would you like to?

Speaker 2:

be Well. I always thought Brad Pitt was pretty handsome dude yeah.

Speaker 1:

And you felt confident in saying that yeah, yeah, I think that's great.

Speaker 2:

Most guys are like meh, yeah, I think he's. If I had to choose, it's like I couldn't be you Like.

Speaker 1:

if you were a woman for a day and you could sleep with Brad Pitt, you would.

Speaker 2:

Sure, probably. Yes, I was a woman for a day. Yeah, yeah, I'd be putting out yeah.

Speaker 1:

What's the first thing you would do if you were a woman for a day?

Speaker 2:

Oh, I probably play with my boobs.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I just sit down and I just feel like yeah hang out with me for a minute. Who is Sylvia's hall pass?

Speaker 2:

Who is Sylvia's hall pass? You know what's funny? She said something the other day I'm trying to remember who it was On Thanksgiving. She said she was like, oh yeah, I really like that guy. He's my yeah, or whatever, my yeah, get out of jail free card or something. But I can't remember what we were watching. Oh, hugh Jackman, that's who it was. Oh yeah, interesting. I know Wolverine, but we were watching the greatest showman. But yeah, she said Hugh Jackman and I said, hmm, yeah, she's like who is yours? I'm like the neighbor, it's okay.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, who's would yours be?

Speaker 2:

I was like Kate Beckinsale, oh no way. Yeah, my, she's always been my number one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so is it from the movies Would like. Is that why you like her?

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't know Like, is it from like?

Speaker 1:

her aggressive kind of you know what's not movie column.

Speaker 2:

Oh, under world. Under world, yeah, I mean, I was that when you there was nice.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, paint on your clothes. I love it, it's awesome. So, no stalker, okay. So who do you like better, me or Corey?

Speaker 2:

Who do I like better?

Speaker 1:

Well, it depends on my mood. Actually, yeah, it does.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, if I'm feeling like I'm just kind of a little bit down and I just need someone to Try to give me some hope. But there's Corey, but if I want to have some fun, it's probably you, so depends on my mood depends on your mood.

Speaker 1:

I like it. I like it. This is a great song. Are you a big? You're a big rap guy, though.

Speaker 2:

I am, yeah, I do like rap. So like new rap, or were you into like NWA, I would say more NWA, like Dr Dre M&M, you know him, yeah, boc, that kind of Area versus new stuff, I mean, unless it's got a really good catchy tune, I mean a lot of it's kind of dumb Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

So it's a lot of it's. It's fairly degrading. Yeah, well, I anger. Yeah, like I feel like if you just like boxed you time and you could just go on and say like bitch, pussy, poor, suck my dick, I think you would have a hit, I think. So I get you throw some like us in there and Like we can.

Speaker 2:

I feel like the women rappers now are even meaner. Yeah, it's like, well, we'll show you. Yeah, they're trying to do everyone.

Speaker 1:

So do you have a theory how to pop Dying to you? Did you ever like think about that?

Speaker 2:

I mean yeah, I mean I've seen the documentaries. I heard they just arrested some guy.

Speaker 1:

Just recently, just recent, yeah, like the.

Speaker 2:

Vegas just reopened the case and they arrested one of the shooters oh, wow, and I guess and he was saying that he got paid by someone with biggie Smalls. But I just feel like that's like, from everything I can see, those guys seem like they were somewhat friends. Yeah so I, you know, I don't know, I mean it's kind of one of these JFK things. I mean, you know yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I heard today which was so random that JP Morgan had an identical ship like the Titanic really, and that right before the Titanic it took off, he switched the ship, painted it identical like the Titanic and that's the ship that went down, and he didn't get on that ship and all his business partners were on that ship and all went down with a ship. Hmm, isn't that interesting that is interesting from Joe Rogan though. So yeah, you know some of great I never know.

Speaker 2:

I did go to the Lego store at West Edmonton Mall and they have a Titanic and it, because it doesn't fit fully in the glass, they've actually broke it in half and I know my dad's, my daughter, I'm like that's pretty accurate. That's crazy to do that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, interesting. You just went on a trip with your daughter.

Speaker 2:

I did. Yeah, how were the waterslides? They're interesting, yeah, yeah, that's a that's a big day to do wave pools and waterslides and, yeah, I was exhausted like, how many times do you think you went down? I don't know five to ten different rides, but a lot of those you have to carry tubes up too. Oh, it's a lot of stairs. I was like you should be a central elevator.

Speaker 1:

Like one of those slide machines Onto it. Yeah runs you up all this, so there's a lot of stairs, so you didn't sit on the sidelines and have beer when she was doing no, I was participating in all the events with her. That's good. Yeah, that's really good. You're a good dad that way. All right, ready.

Speaker 2:

This is how you close the bar every night.

Speaker 1:

This is the last song of the night. This is where you hope that the lights stay off. Yeah, because you don't want the lights to come on when you're leaving.

Speaker 2:

That's right, cuz you just don't know what she really looks like that's right. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

So do you want to pull a car? I haven't yeah, I haven't do these ones, for these are other people's questions that they that they've got me to ask the guests.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay. Yeah do you like to get your toes suck? Oh, do you know?

Speaker 1:

you're not a big fan, not a big foot guy no no that seems odd to me, that that's interesting, yeah. What about would you give up oral sex or cheese for the rest of your life?

Speaker 2:

I have seen this video. I mean, cheese does give you the farts, but oral sex does hurt my jaw, yeah, so so you would give up? Probably give up.

Speaker 1:

Oral sex.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm gonna get it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2:

Give me that. Yeah, I'll give up that.

Speaker 1:

All right, you want to try another card? Okay, flip the deck.

Speaker 2:

Oh, these always make me laugh.

Speaker 1:

Uh-oh, scary.

Speaker 2:

Would you ever sleep with Ron Jeremy? No, there's too much shadow.

Speaker 1:

You know, I've always, I've never, have you ever seen a Ron Jeremy porn?

Speaker 2:

I don't know what I have actually either. I'm not even sure I want to. He didn't? He seems like the penguin from Batman.

Speaker 1:

I know, but I heard he has like a massive Is he dead now?

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

He's dead I don't think he's dead. Oh, I think he slept a lot with Tracy Lords Maybe. Maybe they never did, but I just I could see those two are like old school yeah, porn stars that were super popular back then.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't understand, because he's not a good-looking dude. No, he's not. Does anyone said yes to that? No okay, it's always been men, that, oh Pick that?

Speaker 1:

so I've never experienced that. What kind of porn do you like to watch? Like, are you just like go in there?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I kind of just slide around. Yeah, see where you end up. You're not like okay, no.

Speaker 1:

I want big asses Black women. No with skinny dudes.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

Total description.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna try that, see what comes up. I know like that yeah.

Speaker 1:

All right, next song oh it's good.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you're supposed to go.

Speaker 1:

I know.

Speaker 2:

Thursday, but I think they revoked to March.

Speaker 1:

They did. I seen that.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so upset. I was so upset.

Speaker 1:

So Sebastian Bach, vinsneel or Axel Rose, who would you like to be for a day?

Speaker 2:

Probably Axel Rose. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. See what?

Speaker 1:

Is it the dancing Like? You just want to be a better dancer.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure you can do that move with the mic.

Speaker 1:

I was thinking.

Speaker 2:

I'd go, but I wouldn't be there today. Like I'd like to go back, like 25 years ago to see what a day in my life is.

Speaker 1:

That's right. I feel like those guys lived rock and roll Like every part of it. They used and abused women, drugs, alcohol, everything. Nowadays I think people are like too scared to do any of that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't think Like look at all the stars that are getting, you know, arrested nowadays from whatever Having girls in their tour buses. Those guys didn't. They used their influence, but not in a sense as like hey, they were just like hey, I'm gonna do this. You know we're gonna have sex, you're probably cool with that. That'd be awesome, let's go do that. By the way, rebecca's outside waiting to come and have sex too.

Speaker 1:

So I'm gonna hurry up because I didn't wrap this up Like I feel like they were just open about that. Yeah, I think so, and now I just feel like everything that's coming out. It's like kind of creepy Like that guy from that 70s show.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah, I saw something on him like he.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he raped some girl and he got sentenced the other day and his wife filed for divorce and wanted full custody of, I think, their nine or 11 year old or whatever. And I'm like, and you're shocked, like I'm still surprised, that they said you guys were married, like during the trial she might want to go. Yeah, I think I'm done. You know what? I don't mind putting a little bit of extra on you. Here's a divorce papers as well, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, wait till the end.

Speaker 1:

And she wants nothing to do with like any of his money or nothing like totally walking away, which is kind of crazy, kind of weird, though.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is weird, Like you think. I don't know. That just seems odd to me. There's weird people out there.

Speaker 1:

That's weird. Alright, kid Rock, here we go. Have you ever seen Kid Rock live?

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

Me neither.

Speaker 2:

I was wondering. No, I bet you he'd be a fun party. He would be.

Speaker 1:

So is there a story behind this song.

Speaker 2:

Not really. I just you know, sometimes when you're, you know, trying to get things going and like, alright, I'll just be the greatest show on earth.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, do you have any big fears?

Speaker 2:

Big fears. Yeah, I think my biggest fear is to be a nobody. Yeah, not matter in people's lives. I think that's probably my biggest fear of never to live up to what I could do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like that. You have two girls, two daughters. Yeah, what have they taught you over the last three years? Because they're starting to get a little rambunctious, starting. You know, one is a teenager, the other one acts like a teenager.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I think a little bit of patience, yeah For sure, because it's like alright, you know it's. Sometimes we think that, you know, even in our business we want these people. We can see what people are capable of, but we don't give them time to grow into that. So I mean you try to do that with your kids too is give them some time to grow into and learn, and I think the hardest part is letting them make the mistake while you're watching.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like, hey, I could have probably saved you some time here, but they don't learn that way.

Speaker 1:

So what are you going to do when they start dating? Like, are you nervous about that?

Speaker 2:

I mean my oldest is kind of gone on a couple of little dates here and there it's. For me it's more the broken heart part. Yeah, I mean it seems like that's all the time Like, oh, he doesn't like me anymore, or this or that, and you want to tell him I mean in grade eight, like who cares?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right, but when you're in it, I mean it's the be all end, all yeah.

Speaker 1:

So have you ever had your heart broken? I have, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, probably. The actually probably the first one was my grade 12 girlfriend. She broke up with me and that one hurt, but in hindsight sweet.

Speaker 1:

So how long were you guys together for?

Speaker 2:

We were together for probably 10 or 11 months, so pretty much dated her in the whole grade 12. And only other one you know there was only one other one that was like I dated her in grade 11. And she's the one you still wonder about yeah, like the one that kind of got away or the one that and I actually broke up with her, but you know, that's the one I still wonder about some days.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, did you do any stalking when Facebook came out? Remember when Facebook came out and you could go reconnect with all your friends.

Speaker 2:

Not, really, not really. I just I mean, we're busy and we just don't care that much yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I have a question here it says shortest hour of time before you slept with somebody. So you slept with somebody, and then how long after that person you slept with another person.

Speaker 2:

Six hours.

Speaker 1:

Six hours, you might guess. Did you just add a couple hours to that?

Speaker 2:

Or you feel confident with that answer. I think I'm pretty confident with that answer.

Speaker 1:

Could have been eight. So what sex act do you feel like you're best at?

Speaker 2:

Finishing.

Speaker 1:

You're a closer. I'm a closer, so is Tyler so ridiculous? Oh, I love it All right.

Speaker 2:

I love that song.

Speaker 1:

That is totally your song.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so they play it quite often when I come on stage.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what motivates you to work hard?

Speaker 2:

I think just like back to the fears. Yeah, you know, like I want to. You know, I don't want to be like everyone else. Yeah, I don't want to be in the pack. I want to be ahead of the pack or I want to be on a separate myself somehow. Yeah, so it's so. I think a lot of it is that. You know, fear of being left behind, you know, fear of missing out. Yeah, FOMO, all of that kind of stuff is probably what drives me the most.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, how would your friends describe you. I don't know you should get them in here. I don't know, how do you describe it?

Speaker 1:

Like, do you like honestly, I think you're super loyal. Yeah, I think that's probably one.

Speaker 2:

I'm loyal to my friends. I mean I'll be. I believe I'll be there when they need be. I'm not always around, but if someone needed me, I'd pretty much be there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, you're a good listener.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I think You're fine, you're humorous, I don't and I think I don't get on their emotional runs with them, which probably helps them, cause sometimes you can get your friend and he's going through something, so you just wanna go through it with them. It's like, well, I'll go through it with you, but I'll help you get through it, so I'm not gonna get on the roller coaster.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what do you think is the most challenging thing people go through in our business?

Speaker 2:

In our business.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like where do you see the stagnant? Like they're stuck. Why do you think that they're stuck?

Speaker 2:

Well, I think drifting is a huge thing in human nature. I just I think that we get I don't care what you're doing, like it's easy just to get caught like, and just kind of, you know, it's like driving on a deer flight, you're not even paying attention. Yeah, you know it's easy to just go through life not paying attention. So I think that's probably the biggest reason most people get stuck. They don't even realize they're stuck in two years of past. Yeah, and I'm just speaking from experience on that one. But I think the other thing is this idea that can I do it? I think it's just a personal belief that you can and I've always had this belief that I don't care what I'm doing, I think I could do it, you know. I mean, if I wanted to become a mechanic, I could become a kin mechanic. I don't know anything about cars, but other than I know how to drive them yeah Right.

Speaker 2:

Same thing with running a business. I don't know anything about running a business, but I'm sure I can run it, especially if I hang out with people that are doing the exact same thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I figure, and I always like, and I think the last mistake a lot of people make is they pedestal people. They look at someone that's got all this success and they're like, wow, I could never be that as soon as you can never be, that you never will, right? So instead of realizing, though, these are just normal people that have either worked harder or didn't drift longer, or just been here longer than me, or put in more time, or or or or.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right, everything's learnable.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm reading that Born to Win right now. I've read it years ago and I think it was like chapter nine that I just finished reading last night. It says you have to believe to win. You have to like believe it and you're just saying it Like I believe that I'm going to win, I believe I can be a mechanic, I believe I could do this right and all the how will come.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, and I just I expect to win, yeah, I expect to get the promotion, or I expect that this is going to happen, yeah, so when it does happen, so I mean that's also a negative, because when it does happen, I expected it to happen, yeah, so I don't, you know, I don't really celebrate.

Speaker 2:

Get to celebrate it, I'm not great at celebrating the small wins or even the big wins, cause I've already, I just expect to get them. Yeah, like, even when you talk about good news, it's like, well, it's not good news, it's news. I expected to do that. Yeah, that's my job, you know, and I think that's where a lot of people get lost is as soon as you have control you. That's why a lot of people can't be entrepreneurs. Yeah, as soon as they have control, they can't control themselves. That's true. So it's now I'm going to stay at home, now I'm going to, I'm going to sleep in. Now I've got oh, I have a sniffle, maybe you're going to go to your job get a job but we're going to.

Speaker 2:

oh, I have a sniffle. I'm not coming in Like that's not going to work.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Or I didn't sleep great last night, or my wife wants me to run to the grocery store. I'm like I have an adult, I have a job. Get right to the grocery store two in the afternoon. That's how it works. No, it doesn't work that way, so I've always related to what would I do if I was working at the hospital, or what would I do if I had a nine to five, or what would I do if I was working downtown and oil and gas, you'd go, so why wouldn't I go now?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

All right, and so yeah, just allow your bank account to be your boss.

Speaker 1:

That's right, I like that analogy. All right, my favorite band in the world, oh, motley Motley.

Speaker 2:

This is a hot tub time machine. That's such a good show, one of the best movies ever.

Speaker 1:

It is such a good show. I love that show. We've seen him at this what was it? Comedy Festival Supreme on the Santa Monica Pier and he just had like a piano but just like whatever they're called a small one, and he just sat there I'm not even kidding you for an hour and just said take your panties off, Take your panties off for a whole hour. He just did that for a whole hour, Sweating, and we were like what?

Speaker 2:

is happening. He got caught in a loop.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was like all these comedians, but that's literally what he did. And you were like, oh my God, that's so crazy. Do you collect anything? Are you a collector?

Speaker 2:

I am not really a collector, not at all. No, I do have a lot of shoes and a lot of jackets, I guess. And he does. Just, you know, like over time you just collect shoes, yeah, yeah, like as an adult you're not growing out of them, so until you kind of bloop, like they eventually worked doing, lawn those shoes and then eventually they get thrown out. So he ended up collecting a lot of shoes and jackets. We ended up giving a lot of jackets. Yeah, we sure did. So. I ended up giving away a lot of stuff like that over the years.

Speaker 2:

But, that seems to be my collections shoes and jackets. I used to collect hockey cards as a kid. You don't do it anymore.

Speaker 1:

No, I still have them, though so do I. I have a time. That one case back there.

Speaker 2:

I got boxes and boxes.

Speaker 1:

I keep thinking one day I'm going to open them up and I'm going to have like $6 million in there. But then I go look and it's like, oh, 20 bucks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's not worth it, Even the 500. To remember it's to actually physically move it.

Speaker 1:

So you're married.

Speaker 2:

I am.

Speaker 1:

How long have you been married for? It's almost 17 years I think oh my God, yeah, what do you love most about Celia?

Speaker 2:

Well, she does put up with a lot of yeah my nightmare. Yeah, and she has, in her ways throughout the year, supported my business where I'm gone a lot. Yeah, yeah, I'm busy and you know it takes and she has to take on all of the pain and suffering from pretty much every one of my teammates yeah, as well. So that sucks. Yeah, that's a lot. So it's kind of like I don't know too many people that would actually Be overly open to going through it from the start.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think a lot of you would be open to it now. Yeah because you know we've had a bit of success and we've had some of these things, and you know, we get to live in nice places and try cars and our kids get to play sports, and you don't have the same though, because of just because of money. Yeah, but it hasn't always been that way and there was always a you know to do it with a hope. That's not easy.

Speaker 2:

No, especially when you're not the one driving or not the one in control? Yeah, so I think that would have been very difficult for her in hindsight. And the second thing is she grew up in poverty and I pretty sure she was pretty sure I was gonna put us back there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so which?

Speaker 2:

would have been very difficult to Keep, even pretending to support me yeah, when you know there's a lot of unknowns running a business yeah. So, really, when she met a guy who was an employee yeah. So what is something that?

Speaker 1:

she Like what's one thing that you guys would argue about on a regular basis, that you drive her crazy on? Well, it's more, she drives me crazy. Oh, I mean we can argue about billion things that I do.

Speaker 2:

But the one thing is, I am a if you're not five minutes early, early yeah, and she likes to.

Speaker 2:

Just flirt with the exact time and it drives me crazy and I so, finally, I we thought about it all the time. I just said, hey, if you don't want to go through this, why don't you just get there five minutes early? Like, why do we have, like she did, one of the first one of the party? Because that's how I'm wired. Yeah, why do we have to be at the airport three hours before our flight? Because it stresses me out. Yeah, I Want to get through and then go, I go to the lounge or I'll go do whatever or, like I could.

Speaker 2:

I could watch two movies while we're waiting. I don't care. This is my quirk. It's the only thing I care about really is being on time. Yeah, is that your pet peeve?

Speaker 1:

That is my off. You're all time, all time. Pet peeve is late being late.

Speaker 2:

Yeah me too, it drives me absolutely crazy.

Speaker 1:

I hate it.

Speaker 2:

I find it very disrespectful, yeah, and I don't want to disrespect other people yeah, and it sets the tone yeah, like I can't get over it Well like if I'm on a meeting and they're like late.

Speaker 1:

I'm like I just especially if they just jump on or there's no like hey, I'm sorry, you know this. It's just like I understand once in a blue moon, but if that's your brand, yeah, I don't like that and because it's like what happens if you get a flat tire.

Speaker 2:

What happens if this happens? What happens if there's a car accident? What are you then? You're gonna be late, yeah, like you're just gonna be on time. They're gonna be late and someone's going to be waiting for you and you get there and you're flustered, yeah. So all the people that are late, they're always flustered, yeah, and then it takes like 10, 15 minutes for it to the meeting to actually or whatever you're doing To actually be enjoying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then now we're all in your big fucking mess, yeah, listening to it, and on, and then you lie, yeah, about why yeah?

Speaker 2:

it's like just get up five minutes earlier, just do this or do that, or it's like, well, five minutes, like what's that gonna matter in your sleep pattern? That's right, you know. Like even Sylvia today was like I'm asking me what time I woke up this morning.

Speaker 1:

She's like oh, I didn't see it.

Speaker 2:

I'm like I'm like, what's it? An extra 20 minutes gonna matter. Yeah, in the whole scheme of my life. It's not All right. So if I'm up at x amount, x time or whatever time, or even I tell myself that I'm like, oh, if I slept until 630 or I will have at 530, what the heck's gonna be the difference?

Speaker 1:

630 or I won't have at 530.

Speaker 2:

What the heck's gonna be the difference?

Speaker 1:

Like nothing. They both suck, that's right. They both do, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2:

So, and at least I can check off some of my daily disciplines yeah, before everyone else is up in my house.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what are kind of your daily five?

Speaker 2:

Well, one is, I mean, run, is reading my goals. One is going to the gym, um, reading a good book, and I and I don't really set out, I know some people are like 10 pages or 15 pages, I'm like I just need to read. So if it's one page and I'm, it's something. Worst day ever. I did my one page check. Yeah, sometimes I'll read 50 pages, whatever, but it's just read a good book. Um, those are kind of my big three. And then I, you know I want to book a new appointment every day, so I don't need to do an appointment today, but I need to book one. Yeah, no, they're great, like I love that you focus on your mind and body first.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, because if I'm not feeling good.

Speaker 2:

It's hard, it's hard to it really is deal with the daily nightmares of you know like someone quits, or this client is mad or this. You know this happens. Or you know someone's down in the dumps and I mean you can't, you know, help someone out of the ditch by driving in there with them. No like, at least try to be on the road yourself. That's right, you can told them back onto the road.

Speaker 1:

So and that's not easy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, we take a lot of responsibility and pain and suffering from everyone else, so when do we get to have our time? That's right, right. So for me it's the gym. I love it.

Speaker 1:

All right, excuse me. Oh yeah, like being snoring in here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's snoozing away.

Speaker 1:

He's getting right in there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's presenting, he's putting our faces. You got a story for that. Not really, it just reminds me of, like you know, obviously back in like high school, yeah, bush parties and university, like that kind of stuff, just back in the day with you know, your friends and all that, like that's what it kind of reminds me of. Before we had all this responsibility, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I miss those times actually. Yeah, I do sometimes too, Like it's, it's different, yeah, sometimes you just want to like oh fuck, I wish I was a 16 and go in a bush and drink beer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I wish I was 16 and knew what I knew now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like this would be a total. It would be unfair it would be.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it really would be so unfair. Yeah, like it's, it's just interesting and you know, I mean I guess it. Yeah, it just reminds you how far we have come, all that kind of stuff, because I know I got buddies and you know they're I mean, that's a loose term with some of these people, but acquaintances, I guess that they're still there, like they haven't grown one second since there and it's. You know, that's tough to watch. Yeah, so it's easy. The song just reminds me of you know how far we've come and all those kind of things. But then, remembering, you know where you came from, yeah, at all times, and all that stuff.

Speaker 1:

You want to pick a card? Those are getting.

Speaker 2:

Oh, these are Wow, these are something All right, what do we have here?

Speaker 1:

Oh, you put that one back.

Speaker 2:

Oh, what do you think of country music lyrics? Oh, that's funny. We just played a country music song, so historically it's been very depressing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like it's a lot of my dogs running away. I watched it for four days. Yeah, because I'm in the prairies somewhere. Yeah, you know, everyone's girlfriend left them.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, truck broke down.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a lot of walking, yeah Tons of walking Engine breakdowns, ford and Chevy trucks, yeah, so yeah, but I think today I think it's you know, that's a lot more. You know, I don't know mix positive messages and those kind of things. It's not always so sad. Yeah, like, why are they so sad, these country people I know, like only bad things happen to them. Yeah, that's it so, but but yeah, that's probably what I think of. I like it, that stuff.

Speaker 1:

We're on your last song, can you believe it? All right, this is our favorite. Okay, this is our love song, that is.

Speaker 2:

That's back when we used to go on September long weekends before kids. Yeah, down to Montana. Yeah, and we would like to go to the Kray Graph I'm your hero songs.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, by Henry King Glacius.

Speaker 2:

Henry King yeah.

Speaker 1:

Do you want to answer this question?

Speaker 2:

Have you ever woke up to someone giving you oral? The answer is no, but I still be out there. I'll text this to her. Yeah, she's like I don't know. That seems so creepy and I'm like not to me.

Speaker 1:

Oh my god. Thank you so much, kevin, for joining us to music junkies. But before I let you go, can you leave us some words of wisdom?

Speaker 2:

Words of wisdom. I mean, I think if you just keep growing, you know if you could get into your daily disciplines and just keep doing that kind of stuff. It's. It's fun to be striving for something, it's fun to journey towards a destination, and I know sometimes they say the journey is more important than the destination. Well, that's sort of true. If there's no destination, there's no point in journeying, right? So you got to go, be going somewhere. But I think you do need to enjoy the ride, because it's we only get one shot at this life and I guess I would ask you know what's it going to be?

Speaker 2:

If you have one life are you living it to your fullest? Are you really pushing? Are you really trying? Are you really, you know, doing things that scare you, whatever it might be? Are you going to go run a business, you know? I mean, I just don't see living a life where I'd be an employee for my whole life and nothing ever, and I have nothing to look forward to and nothing's going to change for tomorrow and none of that kind of stuff. So, yeah, I would say, go and join the journey, but go find a destination worth fighting for yeah, that's great words of wisdom.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much, kevin. Thanks. Matt I so appreciate you Like. Follow, subscribe, go stalk him. I'll leave all his socials in his email address and I'll give you a hug.

Speaker 2:

I've never had a stalker before. Yeah, he wants a stalker so you know I need one. Oh, that's awesome.

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