From Yearbooks to Concert Halls: Matthew Clark's

Have you ever considered how music shapes your life? How does it bring back special memories or inspire you to create new ones? This week, we welcome our guest Matthew Clark - a music aficionado with a passion that's infectious. As we traverse through his curated playlist, Matthew takes us into the deep corners of his musical world, sharing personal stories that make each song significant to him.

Remember the rollercoaster ride that was in high school? Matthew and I drag out our yearbooks and take a walk down the memory lanes of our teenage years. Through a series of Matthew's amusing anecdotes, we navigate the labyrinth of high school life and how it has since evolved. As social media continues to exert pressure on teenagers, we ponder on the wild youth culture of today and what the future may hold for our grandchildren. Besides, who can resist a hearty discussion about our worst jobs and favorite concert experiences? We pay tribute to Taylor Swift's artistry, reminisce about the magic of first concerts, and express our enchantment with the great Beach Boys.

Celebrating 80s and 90s rock, we share fond memories of attending concerts, our adoration for Soundgarden's Chris Cornell, and our favorite bands from the golden era of rock music. Matthew unreservedly shares his admiration for female pop stars ranging from Gloria Estefan to Madonna to Taylor Swift. If you're a fan of Buffalo Trace whiskey or Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder, you're in for a treat. As we wrap up the episode, we explore the transmission of musical tastes through generations, our concert memories, and how music serves as the soundtrack to our lives. So tune in and let's revel in the universal language of music!

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Speaker 1: 0:01

Welcome everyone to Music Junkies, a podcast about people sharing extraordinary stories about how music has impacted their lives. Welcome everyone to Music Junkies. I'm your host, annette Smith, and our guest today is a jack of all trades master of none. That's what he says. He's a husband, he's an uncle and he's a dad dog. I'm a dad mom too, or a mom of a dog, I don't know. However, you want to say that he's a diehard sports fan, loves auto racing, traveling, live music, golf. He loves music and he said he can't wait to get to his playlist, so please welcome Matthew Clark to the show. Welcome Matthew. Yay, I'm excited.

Speaker 2: 0:49

Thank you, I'm so glad to be here. You know I've been listening to the podcast for a while and you have just like such amazing talent guest that you've booked I've really enjoyed, you know, just coming through the shows, listening to other people's stories relating to a lot of it. So you know I'm hoping people listen today. That they can, you know, relate to what we talk about.

Speaker 1: 1:12

I love it. That's so good to hear. But before we jump in and we dive into all your songs, I want you to share just a little bit about what your experience was putting your playlist together for me today.

Speaker 2: 1:27

I mean honestly, you told me to pick between 10 and 15 and I probably could have picked 100 songs that you know I wanted to talk about or meaningful in some way. You know, I kind of tried to mix in a little bit of a live, some live versions with some recorded versions. You know I always prefer live music. Anytime I listen to a live version of a song, I'm definitely going to pick that over a studio song or a recorded version in the studio. So you know, that's kind of I went back and forth a lot on a lot of these and eventually, you know, I just had to pick something and put it down. I could probably still like be editing it. You know I really get into playlists as well. I try to find something for, you know, every occasion, whether it's, you know, music for the golf course or a road trip or whatever. You know I'm always into playlists. So you know that's kind of the background on that.

Speaker 1: 2:27

I love it and I love that you play music when you play golf, because I love to play music when I play golf and I'm starting to see it more and more. Before it was like I am too yeah sticky on the golf course like, oh my God, I know, but like I just want to go and have fun and have beer.

Speaker 2: 2:42

Exactly, drive a golf course into a building.

Speaker 1: 2:44

You know I have all those kind of fun stuff, but I just don't like being pushed and I just like, let's just go have fun. Like I'm not Tiger Woods, I'm never going to be Tiger Woods, yeah, I mean I don't know, but I make Tiger Woods laugh and have a good time if we golf together.

Speaker 2: 3:01

Yeah, you know, and I've always like seen stories about. You know, is music on the golf course? Is it proper etiquette?

Speaker 2: 3:10

You know, I totally agree with you that more and more people, I think, are coming with with their speakers or whatever, and really there's so many great products on the market for golf speakers it's just more than just a speaker. These days you can get your yardages, it can give you a whole layout, since pretty incredible. Like you know, I'm a big, I guess, audio file as well, so I'm always chasing the best sound, the best earbuds, the best headphones, all that stuff. So you know it's pretty amazing how far Bluetooth golf speaker technology has come in the last. I don't know, maybe five years or so, but yeah, you know, it's very.

Speaker 1: 3:55

Perfect, alright, so we're gonna get started on your first song. You ready?

Speaker 2: 3:58

Yes, let's go.

Speaker 1: 4:17

Nothing like some Billy Ocean to get you in the mood.

Speaker 2: 4:20

Yeah, this is a good one for me. So the night of my rehearsal dinner before my wedding, my dad gave his speech and he tied this song into it. I always remember kind of just jamming out to this one when I was a kid, and he's at the very end of the speech. He said you know, may your wife always, forever, be your Caribbean queen. And we were doing our honeymoon in Jamaica as well. So you know, I thought he did a really nice job at his speech of kind of tying all that together, and so that's why I put this one on there.

Speaker 1: 4:57

I love it. My husband actually walked down the aisle to Loverboy by Billy Ocean, Okay awesome.

Speaker 2: 5:05

Yeah, that's incredible. You know, our actual wedding was a lot more traditional, so I don't think my wife would have gone for a Loverboy by Billy Ocean.

Speaker 1: 5:16

I walked down because we did a destination wedding too, and I walked down to final destination and the whole beach was like, oh my God, this is crazy, right? I love that you have Billy Ocean on there. I love Billy Ocean.

Speaker 2: 5:31

Yeah, I was. I remember just jamming out to it all the time when I was a kid. Anytime I came on the radio it was, you know, turn this one up. So definitely was a meaningful one for me.

Speaker 1: 5:42

Yeah, how long have you been married for?

Speaker 2: 5:44

Almost nine years.

Speaker 1: 5:46

Good for you. That's awesome. How long are you guys together before you pop the question?

Speaker 2: 5:51

Two years, two and a half years. A lot longer than my wife would have preferred, if I need to be truthful about it, but we got there.

Speaker 1: 6:01

Yeah. So were you super romantic? Did you plan this night? Or were you like my husband after 10 years and just threw a ring at me and said we should probably do this?

Speaker 2: 6:10

It was more like that one. You know, I did the whole traditional go talk to the parents thing and I knew I had to act quick from that point. I mean, I never had any doubt that they would say no, of course. But you know, I knew that once I got to sign off from her mom and dad I was going to have to be a quick one. So I just did it at the house as soon as she got home. I think she was out maybe eating brunch with a friend or something like that. So as soon as she got home it was like okay, let's do it.

Speaker 1: 6:43

So what do you love most about your wife?

Speaker 2: 6:47

You know, she's just got like such an infectious personality. You know, I think everybody that has ever met her would tell you that she's sweet, she's super funny, she cracks me up all the time. You know, she does this cute thing where she mispronounces words or you know companies or whatever, and it's like just so fun to giggle about. And so you know, that's, I think, probably my favorite thing about her is that she knows how to make me laugh.

Speaker 1: 7:19

Yeah, I love it Sounds like she has a net isms that's what my husband calls my little. He literally has like a list. He feels like he will write a book one day and I think I would love your wife already because she sounds like me, like I don't give a fuck, whatever talking about. I don't need it to be like perfect and you can't be my friend if you don't know what I'm talking about. So rebooked between the lines, right?

Speaker 2: 7:42

Exactly.

Speaker 1: 7:43

I love that. I love that. All right, next song Nice sack brown.

Speaker 2: 8:14

Yeah, this is another one. This was actually the song that was the first dance at our wedding. You know, like the first time I heard this song was on the past, the jar live album, which is phenomenal, phenomenal live album. I think he recorded it over two or three years ago and I think it was the first time I ever run as a charity event for the Georgia theater and Athens, where you know Zach is from, and so the album is incredible. This song I was like you know. As soon as I heard it, I was like you know, this is perfect, I'm going to. This is going to be my first dance song one day and, fortunately for me, you know, I found a wife that fit the description perfectly.

Speaker 1: 8:56

So tell me a little bit about what kind of guy you were in high school.

Speaker 2: 9:01

You know I would say in high school I was kind of friends with everybody. You know I wasn't a great student, I was in high school to socialize. So you know it's high school is always always tough, you know, like just trying to like find your way or whatever. But you know I wasn't Mr popularity, I was a sports, but I wasn't great. I wasn't Mr athletic, I wasn't a very good student. I did just enough to get by and then spent the rest of the time, you know, hanging out with my buddies, you know going to the games on the weekend, stuff like that it wasn't.

Speaker 2: 9:42

High school was good. I went to Catholic High School as well, so it was a little different. And also high school was kind of in a rubber part of town. So it was interesting. We had a lot of experiences, saw a lot about the world that probably I wouldn't have otherwise seen. You know I know kind of private schools kind of get a reputation for being sheltered or you know whatever. But my high school when they originally built it it was kind of in the nicer part of town and then at the time I was there the Catholic community had moved to a different area of town. So you know, I wouldn't say I don't know. Is it amazing experience? I don't want to. I don't want to speak badly about it, it was just different. I think that what the kids that went to my high school today experience.

Speaker 1: 10:37

What was kind of the craziest thing you've seen.

Speaker 2: 10:42

So freshman year there was a prostitution bust on the front steps of our, our school. We had a lock in and it was like truly a lock in, and so that was one thing. I had a friend who left his car unlocked, one. You know, back in the day when you used to have to hit all the locks around all four doors or whatever. He missed one and he came out after school and there was a person to sleep in the backseat of his car. Wow, those were the two big ones. School got broken into a lot. You know people would I'm not sure how they got into, be honest with you, but you know they would steal the TVs and the VCRs all the time. That was the big one. That usually happens. So you know it was. It was, like I said, it was a lot different than what the kids experience these days.

Speaker 1: 11:34

Yeah, I feel like they need to go back and experience stuff like that, like our school was like crazy drugs fights, all of this kind of stuff, that. But now it's like I don't really know what they like. You know they say that they're sad and then you know that's it. They're off for the three months, being home sad.

Speaker 2: 11:56

Well, you know it's so hard. I think it's even harder, especially with social media. You know, I now have a lot of friends whose kids are teenagers and you know your home could always be your kind of your shelter, the place where you could go to get away from. You know, maybe the kids that you had a problem with, or the bullies and stuff. And now you know, with social media it just feels like they can just follow them around everywhere and harass them at every opportunity. So you know it's it's one of those things where you try to be like the old man yells that cloud, get off my lawn, type thing, or whatever. But you know, I don't know how I would react in today's environment. So I'm sympathetic but also, at the same time, it definitely feels like we were a lot tougher back in the day.

Speaker 1: 12:46

That's a great way to put it. I feel like we are a lot tougher as well. My kids are 28 and 26 and they're, you know, thinking, trying to have babies now, and I just think, oh my God, you know like what?

Speaker 1: 13:02

what are my? What kind of environment? Because I feel like the kids now in the schools right now a little bit different. You know, everybody's trying to like confuse what they are and we're just, we're not even just allowing them to be confused, like it's okay if you want to kiss a boy and it's okay if you want to kiss a girl and you're 13 years old. That's actually normal. That doesn't mean there's something wrong with you. That doesn't mean that you're gay. It just means that you're a teenager. That's what you want to do.

Speaker 2: 13:31

You know, I think that you know my niece was talking to us. She's an eighth grade and she was. She was a big JoJo Seawall fan and you know JoJo Seawall kind of had that I don't want to say controversy, but you know she came out as being gay and you know my niece kind of didn't understand why she was receiving so much criticism at the time and she said you know, love is love, like, why does it matter? Yeah, and I was like, wow, that's really powerful. You know, kids are a lot smarter and a lot more intuitive than really I think adults give them credit for. So I've always just kind of tried to remember that. You know, when having those conversations with people is that you know our kids are listening to us. And you know, love is love. Who cares? You know it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1: 14:24

Yeah, I agree, don't need to put a big label on it, doesn't need to be addressed. You know, I always say to my husband I'm like when our son was growing like, our kids were growing up and going to high school, the only thing that I thought was, you know, it was like the sexting right. We remember, yeah, we got up in the middle of the or I got up to go to the office like at seven o'clock at night and I kind of like logged into my computer and there was like 500 dick pics of my son's dick on Facebook and I was like what, isaiah, what are you doing? What's happening? So that was like my experience of him going through school.

Speaker 2: 15:02

That was like a big thing.

Speaker 1: 15:03

Right and I thought that was crazy. And then now you look at this stuff that kids are going like furbies and all this.

Speaker 3: 15:10

You know, I'm an animal and I'm this and I'm over the fucking place.

Speaker 1: 15:13

So that's why I was saying the other day to my husband and I'm like, what are our grandkids Like? I don't know if we can talk the shit that's going on, like what is next?

Speaker 2: 15:23

Like it's, it's, it's wild. You know again, it's all, it's all. Social media.

Speaker 1: 15:28

I think it's crazy, it's insane. All right, I love this band. Dave Matthews band. Two step.

Speaker 2: 16:10

I mean, I could go on about this song. We can probably do like three episodes about this song or even just Dave Matthews period, easily the most influential musician in my teenage years. I think the first time I saw Dave Matthews I was 13 or 14 and just completely blown away.

Speaker 1: 16:32

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 16:34

And I mean I and I think I'm up to I counted I went on one of his set list sites and tried to remember all the shows I've been to. You know I'm at like 20 with probably a dozen more that I just couldn't remember if it was that one or the year before or the year after. And so two step particularly is an important song to me. One of my friends who I got into Dave Matthews with in high school traded tapes, cds and stuff with passed away, I want to say maybe my freshman or junior year of college and an unfortunate automobile accident. And so you're telling me here to step.

Speaker 2: 17:16

You know I think about him first and foremost and you're selling all the good memories and stuff, all the time that we spent together listening to Dave breaking down set lists, you know trying to predict what he was going to play at his next age. And so we're looking at scouring the internet for you know lyrics, song meetings, all that stuff. You know it's a lot different now. You can just go to Google and find that stuff, but you know 20 years ago or 25 years ago when kind of Dave was coming about. You know search and find that stuff and so you know, that version I picked was from the live at Red Rocks, which was probably the album that took Dave Matthews from here to here. For me and really he's one of the ones that the live experience you just it's just doesn't compare to what you hear in the studio.

Speaker 1: 18:07

What's one of your favorite memories of your friend that passed away?

Speaker 2: 18:13

Probably. He had a New Year's Eve party one year and it was kind of the first time we had all gone back together after he went off to college and we had a lot of adult beverages that night and my best memory was me realizing that, oh shit, it's coming and trying to get out into his backyard so I could vomit and running into the door and then, like me and him kind of struggling to get the door open, we did not get the door open in time and then so his older sister, who was kind of our chaperone for the evening or whatever, was a complete state and still is the same to this day, cleaned up after us. But that was probably my favorite memory with him. You know, other than just like I mean all things Dave Matthews, all the time. We were just constantly on Dave Matthews for just years until he passed away.

Speaker 1: 19:16

Yeah, so, speaking of drinking, do you remember the first time you got drunk?

Speaker 2: 19:20

Yeah, I was with I don't remember. I don't remember his name, his first name was Adam. I was working in a grocery store as a bagger and me and him just kind of hit it off one day and he was like, hey, man, you want to come into my house? I got a six pack of Zimas and I was like sure, let's do it. And that was also the first time I ever had a hangover. So I learned quickly and then I think after that we managed to find a couple of bottles of red wine and his mom's liquor cabinet and so we kind of got into those and I had to work the next day as well. So that was a pretty quick lesson and working when you're hungover.

Speaker 1: 20:08

So what do you think of the worst job you ever had?

Speaker 2: 20:14

You know it's hard to say the worst job I ever had. That one it was pretty easy. We mostly goofed around most of the time. You know, when someone, when the cashier, called you up to take a order, it was kind of annoying. The worst job I ever had was at a truck stop.

Speaker 2: 20:38

I used to work for a company in Sneldy Fumps and their kind of whole thing was. The objective, I guess, of the company was to encourage drivers to come, and you have like this long cylinder that had this module in the bottom of it, and in the bottom of this module was a screen and you could play TV, music, you could surf the internet, and it also had heat and air. And so the point of it was you come in, you plug into this thing, you pay hourly fee and instead of running your truck, wasting fuel, wear and tear, emissions, all that stuff, you could shut it off, still get a good night's sleep, still keep your cabin cool or warm. And that was a wild job. Just some of the things. You know lot lizards all the time. You know it was, and you had to go out and clean the modules after they left. So, and what a good invention though.

Speaker 2: 21:36

Yeah, it was a phenomenal invention, you know unfortunately somebody came along and did a little bit better and so they kind of lost their market share or whatever. But it was, it was all. It was all seasons, all weather. So you know, winners here are mild but it still gets cold and it's still not fun to have to go out there and, and you know, clean those modules and stuff. So that was kind of I was, that was the worst one.

Speaker 1: 22:07

All right. Well, this song goes into that right. Shake it off.

Speaker 3: 22:15

I say I'm too late, got nothing in my brain. That's what people say.

Speaker 1: 22:25

Hey Tay Tay.

Speaker 2: 22:27

Oh man, I mean, what can you say about Taylor that hasn't already been said? Just absolutely phenomenal Like this was probably the song that really got me into Taylor Swift. I was only picked 1989 as my era 100% Just bangers, like all she wrote is she just writes bangers like you just can't like help, they just get stuck in your head.

Speaker 1: 22:49

Yeah, and that's a good artist, right, whether you like it or not.

Speaker 2: 22:55

And you know I set out early this year to try and create a playlist of songs that get stuck in my head and I found it was just all Taylor Swift. I was like, why don't you got Taylor Swift playlist? So you know, haven't seen her in concert yet. Definitely number one above and beyond everybody else on my bucket list. I'm fingers crossed for for the North American tour, on hoping, you know, a couple things come through here there. But you know I got tickets to the you know she's doing she's released her show and movie theaters. So we snatched those tickets up the first day that they came out and some co workers, who are big Taylor Swift fans as well, were like, hey, you want to go. And I was like, sure, why not? So I'm going twice to the air is to her and I'm not saying or whatever she's calling it, but yeah, she's, she's just I don't know you just it's just hard to put into words how good she is at writing those hooks. That just gets you and draw you in to the rest of it.

Speaker 1: 24:04

I have one of my best friends. Their daughter loves Taylor Swift and there the aunt took her and their daughter to Seattle to go see her and I don't know what it must have been like seven o'clock. I get this WhatsApp video and it's Amelia watching Taylor Swift like somebody's recording her, and they sent me the recording and she was like it was her first concert. She's 14, freaking out, crying, and then in the crowd it's just like nine to 14 year old all freaking out crying in this song is just so crazy, right, and she was just like last, they know every lyric like on point, like it was crazy.

Speaker 1: 24:54

I was like that is an amazing video. I would have loved to take in a video of my daughter's like very first concert and seen her. Mind you, I probably took her to her first concert, but just like watching that reaction from her, it was just, it was unreal, like it was so awesome to see.

Speaker 2: 25:13

It's been a blast, like watching Taylor Swift tick tock Just people going absolutely crazy. And that's what music is all about is going to a different place and getting lost in it for two, three hours at a time, you know, putting all your troubles aside or whatever. And you know, talk about first concerts. My first concert they would have had to brought in one of those big camcorders. That's how long ago. My first concert was like an imagine what my reaction was. But yeah, that's, that's amazing and it's so great that you know they get to have that experience with their mom. They'll never, they'll never.

Speaker 1: 25:51

I know, I know what was your first concert.

Speaker 2: 25:55

So my first concert was actually the Beach Boys, and that's why I included that one and my playlist as well. 1989, right before we got on, the right before we got on, I was looking up the tour to see if I could figure out what, what, what year it was, and it was 1989. And I was like damn, taylor Swift 1989, beach Boys, 1989. Like you know, it's like one of those. It's like karma, you know, or the universe is going together somehow into this, like really cool, like coincidence or whatever. Beach Boys definitely was my first concert and I've probably seen him three or four times, I think, since then. What I was really trying to figure out was if Ryan Wilson was playing with them in 89, and I'm not sure if he was or not. I can't claim to have seen Ryan Wilson, either as the Beach Boys or as a solo, but I've seen all the other Beach Boys and they they just rock it every single time.

Speaker 1: 27:02

That's awesome. So you've been to a lot of shows. Is there a show that is like completely stood out to you far beyond everybody else's, or? So a big one for me was the Rolling Stones, yeah that's so funny that you said that, because when you were talking about the Beach Boys, I just finished reading Keith Richards book. I thought about the Beach Boys in there and then you just said the Rolling Stones. That's so crazy.

Speaker 2: 27:30

That's incredible. I'm not to check that out. Should be that link or something.

Speaker 1: 27:35

I will. It's a great, it's a phenomenal book. It's like.

Speaker 2: 27:38

I mean talk about one of the wildest guys to ever walk to face with this urge. I don't even know how the Rolling Stones are still alive, let alone performing at the level that they perform at. I'm still putting out new music. I think I got an album coming out Like those guys were amazing and we saw my wife and I saw him at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. So you know we're a big auto sports family and Indianapolis Motor Speedway is kind of our Mecca for racing. We go to the Indy 500 every single year over Memorial Day Week and so it was incredible to see it's like such a legendary band as such a legendary venue that's like so important to our family.

Speaker 1: 28:18

That's really cool. That's what on my bucket list, so once I want to get there, I'm going to reach out and then you can do yeah, totally. You have to do to go to a race. This is where you should go, because I really want to go see one.

Speaker 2: 28:33

Yeah, that would be the one to go see. They don't call it the Greatest Spectacle in racing for nothing, and once you go it's like cracks. I mean you, just it's insane. You know I fell in love with. I've been going since before I can even remember. But I remember the first time I went to the actual race and like it was just like love at first sight. And my wife even had the same experience when I took her, never didn't know anything about racing at all, and now she's like falling all the drivers, falling all the drivers lives. She's totally into it.

Speaker 1: 29:09

That's really cool. I love that. Hit me up if you ever I will.

Speaker 2: 29:14

Let me know I can. I can tell you everything you know about it.

Speaker 1: 29:17

I love that All right next song. Like a stone they kind of sound like. The beginning of that song really reminds me of the chili peppers.

Speaker 2: 29:49

Yeah, I mean, it was obviously a conglomeration of a lot of stuff, but it was. That definitely has the chili peppers intro feel to it. Yeah, I picked that one because I saw Soundgarden about a week before Chris Cornell passed away. Oh, it was at Beale Street Music Festival. It was Sunday night. We were exhausted. Three-day music festivals I mean, just take it out of you by that last one.

Speaker 2: 30:19

And you know, we kind of debated earlier in the day about do we even want to go back down there? Do we just want to hang out at the house, listen to some music or whatever? And we decided we ended up, we ended up going. I'd never seen Soundgarden and that was kind of the thing that pushed me to going. I wanted to see Chris Cornell. You know he's an incredible vocalist. I think he's really underrated as far as vocalists go. It's just all the different tones or pitches that he can hit. And so after he passed away, this was the song that I really listened to almost non-stop for a full week and it was really, I want to say, prophetic and kind of the way he passed away and then how he describes this song, and I just thought about that a whole lot, you know, during that time period.

Speaker 1: 31:10

Yeah. So it sounds like you like a lot of the kind of 80s, 90s kind of rock bands, which I do too. So if you could be any lead singer in that kind of let's just call it the 80s, who would you want to be?

Speaker 2: 31:30

The 80s is tough for me. You could pick two.

Speaker 1: 31:33

You could pick two, because it is tough to pick even one, you know.

Speaker 2: 31:37

I kind of want to see what it would be like to have been in Motley Crue during that time.

Speaker 1: 31:42

Yes, good answer.

Speaker 2: 31:43

You know, there there are stories that are absolutely legendary and so, like you know, I think that's who I would pick as lead singer on Motley Crue. Just the one thing I can survive and two you have to tell about it. Yeah, that's what I would pick.

Speaker 1: 32:00

Yeah, I love Motley Crue. Have you ever read Dirt?

Speaker 2: 32:04

No, I have not.

Speaker 1: 32:05

You got to read that book.

Speaker 2: 32:06

Okay, phenomenal, phenomenal. I got two. I got to read Keith Richards and I got to read Dirt.

Speaker 1: 32:12

You got to read Dirt. You got to read Dirt. If you like. The chili peppers, though scar tissue, so good.

Speaker 2: 32:20

I've heard a lot of good things about that one.

Speaker 1: 32:23

The great book.

Speaker 2: 32:25

Yeah, you know, reading has always been tough for me. I think you know probably we were talking about being a student back in the day. You know I had ADD coming up, so sitting down and reading has been tough for me. I really love reading interviews with musicians and behind the music. Those were all phenomenal.

Speaker 1: 32:49

I miss those yeah.

Speaker 2: 32:50

I miss them so much. Like you know, I can sit for hours and watch behind the music, but I'm definitely going to make it a point to spend some time on some of these book recommendations.

Speaker 1: 33:03

You really should Like I know they did like Netflix has the dirt on Netflix, but it is nothing like the book. Like the book, even if you do not like to read. You will not be able to put this book down because it is fucking crazy. Story after crazy story where you're just like this is so insane that I can't believe you guys. And it's cool because it's like Tommy's version, mick's version, you know, nikki Six's version and then Vince Neil's version of like sometimes the same story. So like it's so crazy to like hear the story in a different way and and you'll like Keith's books because he does that too He'll tell a story and then he'll be like well, maybe you should just kind of like hear this person's version of the story, because they were there too and it's cool. It's like it's really interesting. Yeah Well, I got some.

Speaker 2: 34:01

I got some Amazon credits, so I'm definitely going to be yeah go do that.

Speaker 1: 34:07

And if you forget them, just text me and I'll give them to you again. Absolutely, we're going to go see these guys on the 24th, so this yeah, green day.

Speaker 2: 34:25

I mean this was so. This was the second. Actually this was the third CD I ever bought, where the second, I guess, second CD I bought first one was a gift. Second one I bought was the Weezer Blue album. Nice, and I traded it in for a dookie and I mean, green day has just been like one of those bands, timeless, constant. You know, it was something completely different than I had ever heard at the time and I think this was we're talking like maybe early, early 90s, 93, 94ish, so I was like 13, 14 years old Definitely left an imprint as I kind of pivoted away from the stuff that my parents listened to to finding my own stuff. And in green day, and you know, years later I bought that Weezer Blue album and I was like man, why, what was I thinking? Why?

Speaker 1: 35:24

did I do this.

Speaker 2: 35:26

Why did I just get both of them? I clearly remember where I was, what I was doing when I bought Green Day Dookie.

Speaker 1: 35:34

I love that. You. This is one of those albums and you and I don't know, maybe people would disagree, but I feel music today is very, very different, especially when iTunes came out and Spotify came out, where it's just like you're just getting one song. I just remember growing up and it was like 90% of the album was awesome. Yeah, there was like maybe one song that you didn't like and you're just like you just listen to it because it was a tape and you're like, fuck, I don't feel like fast forwarding it right now. Whatever, I'll listen to.

Speaker 1: 36:03

And then eventually you started liking that song anyway. So eventually you just like the whole album. This is one of those albums that you're like. Every song was like so good, you loved it. It was like let's just go play it.

Speaker 2: 36:16

Yeah, I mean Longview was another one on this, one that was like absolutely phenomenal. And going back, I guess, to your point about purchasing CDs versus downloading songs, you know I think his today missed out on that experience of going to the store and buying the album, going on the release night at the midnight sale, getting in line, buying the album, and you know a lot, that's a lot of my memories are buying albums, you know. Or even going to the CD store and just listening to songs for hours with your buddies just perusing. I think that experience is kind of lost so I think it's a shame.

Speaker 1: 36:57

It is a shame. So it's like blockbuster I used to love and in Calgary it was like every Tuesday night. I would go every Tuesday after work and I would let. My husband hated it because I literally would get all the new releases. It'd be like three or four videos and you know that like there's probably only one that's going to be good and we would like struggle through the other three and then watch the good one that we really wanted to watch, but I would. I spent like 45 dollars a week on blockbuster.

Speaker 2: 37:25

Yeah, and Tuesday nights. Tuesday nights were the nights that the new stuff always came out on Tuesday.

Speaker 1: 37:30

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 37:30

We decided like Tuesdays would be the one. But the local, the local, the local music store in Knoxville used to have a list of all the release dates of the albums, so you know we'd go in there every single week, tuesday nights.

Speaker 2: 37:47

We'd bring it home, post it on the fridge. Okay, here's the nights. We need to make sure we we're leaving the work early so we can get there in time. Like, yeah, it was same thing like Tuesday nights, were it? That was like when you that was, when you went and spent all your money on music.

Speaker 1: 38:05

Yeah, I love it. And this is another great album in tragedy store Right. Such an incredible album, great song. Nobody's ever picked that song.

Speaker 2: 38:35

Really.

Speaker 1: 38:36

Yeah, which is pretty cool.

Speaker 2: 38:38

I feel like in this one you could like really feel his pain that he was going through both personally and physically at the time, and I feel like it really came out in this one. And you know, I don't know what Kurt and Courtney's personal relationship was like. I mean, obviously he's talked about it in documentaries and stuff and she's talked about it, but it really feels like it was directed towards her in some way as well. I never heard her address this one specifically in any interviews or whatever she's done, but just Nirvana in general. I think you know everybody says it, but it's so true, just so how influential they were again coming out around that same early 90s area era where I was shifting from my parents to my own music. We actually went to Seattle a couple weeks ago and went to the pop culture museum in Seattle. I think it is.

Speaker 2: 39:40

And they had an incredible Nirvana exhibit, just Nirvana through the years. You know they had like a bunch of guitars that the band broke on stage, a bunch of old clothing, old pictures with, like, kurt and his band members and you know, from there from Nirvana, came Foo Fighters, who is another incredible band, dave Grohl's an amazing human being, and so, like, just getting Dave Grohl out of Nirvana was a plus in itself, and then we got so much from Nirvana. Definitely, if I could go back in time, this would be one of the bands. Nirvana would be one of the bands that I would love to have seen them watch.

Speaker 1: 40:22

Yeah, me too, for sure. Do you ever watch Hot Ones? Have you ever heard of the show Hot Ones?

Speaker 2: 40:28

Yeah, occasionally I've watched some Hot Ones with Dave Grohl on it.

Speaker 1: 40:32

Yes, you have to watch that one because he is making Sean drink rye. Every time he does a wing they drink a two, six of rye. Oh my god, it's hilarious, he is hilarious. It's probably one of the best Hot Ones that.

Speaker 2: 40:50

I've ever seen. I did not catch that one. The best Hot Ones I ever saw was the professional wrestler Stonkul Steve Austin.

Speaker 1: 41:01

And my husband makes that freaking tequila drink all the time.

Speaker 2: 41:06

That's incredible. That's awesome.

Speaker 1: 41:09

So, being in Tennessee, do you drink a lot of whiskey?

Speaker 2: 41:14

You know I did for a long time. I feel like you know, jack Daniels, you know it's weird because you go to the airports or whatever, and especially when you're on international flights, people are loading up on Jack Daniels and I'm like, you know, jack Daniels is just kind of like meant to me. If that's agri-religious for a Tennessean to say that, then you know, here I am. But yeah, I mean just brown liquor in general, being so close to Kentucky is what I like. Big fan of bourbons.

Speaker 1: 41:45

Yeah, my husband's a big bourbon fan. What's your favorite bourbon?

Speaker 2: 41:49

I would say my go-to just for sipping on would be probably Blanton's.

Speaker 1: 41:56

Oh, good choice. Yeah, I love it. You like Basil Hayden? Yeah.

Speaker 2: 42:00

Woodward, yeah, basil Hayden's good Woodford's phenomenal Mixing, it would be makers. I think makers is the best for mixing.

Speaker 1: 42:11

Yeah, we went to Kentucky Derby. That was my 40th and, like we did, drink so much bourbon.

Speaker 2: 42:20

Did you get to go to a bunch of distilleries?

Speaker 1: 42:22

We didn't. Well, we did the Derby, so that was a two day event, right, they have the Oaks and then they had three, probably in Saturday, yeah, and then we kind of walked down Kentucky Street, we went into Makersmark and like, had a bunch of drinks in there, but everywhere we went, that's, he was in heaven, it was just bourbon, bourbon, bourbon, bourbon, and I don't really mean bourbon, but it was still amazing, like what an incredible place.

Speaker 2: 42:47

If bourbon's your thing, then Kentucky's the place.

Speaker 3: 42:50

Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2: 42:52

I would highly suggest next time you're in the area of Woodford. Incredible distillery really gives you a good picture of Kentucky. You drive through all the horse farms and all that stuff and then you come and there's Woodford right there. Tiny operation really. I've also been the Buffalo Trace. Oh, that's good, that was a big one. That was a big operation. Woodford was much smaller and I was kind of taken aback by that that it would be a lot smaller in scale than Buffalo Trace was.

Speaker 1: 43:23

They're really pushing Buffalo Trace right now in Calgary. It's weird, like all the you know how you go to like a wine event or whatever. They'll pay tickets and they'll have like whiskey, they'll have like a bunch of different coolers and all this stuff and you buy tickets. They are always there in every event that we go to. So they're really pushing it maybe just in Alberta, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 43:50

but that's weird that you say that, because you know I had a buddy out of the way that was in Indianapolis and last time he came down to visit me I was like, hey, bring me a bottle of Buffalo Trace, just regular Buffalo Trace, and any of their specialties or any of that stuff, because I can't find it here, like it is in shelves and it's gone, just regular Buffalo Trace, and the people jack up the prices and stuff on it and I'm just like man, this is why, why can't we get it here? But you're in Indianapolis, I mean we're both like equal hours, like Lexington, and where Buffalo Trace is right outside of Lexington, kentucky is like equal distances between the two of us. And he's like, oh yeah, went to the labor store, whole shelf, whole display, 175 milliliters everywhere Down here. I'm lucky if I can find a fifth.

Speaker 1: 44:43

That's crazy. That's interesting. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe they're trying to import it more here in Canada and they see a lot of them. They grow the market.

Speaker 2: 44:53

I guess. I guess they've already got us here, so you know whatever Great album.

Speaker 1: 45:17

Again one of those bands incredible but that one of those albums again where you're like every song is so good.

Speaker 2: 45:26

I mean, I get goosebumps thinking about those first two Pearl Jam albums.

Speaker 2: 45:30

And if you did, ask me earlier if I could be any singer in a band from the 90s Eddie Vedder, 100%. Also like another incredible human being Fantastic. You know Eddie's from Chicago. My grandparents were from Chicago. Eddie's a big Chicago Cubs fan. I'm a huge Chicago Cubs fan. So, you know, just going through that whole experience of the 2016 World Series, watching it through kind of through Eddie's eyes, Really just like just an incredible, like time in my life, you know, being a Cubs fan suffering for so long to finally get to celebrate a World Series and Eddie being kind of the guy that represented the fans, you know it felt like Eddie was me, If I was getting to celebrate with the team, so I kind of got to live vicariously through Eddie's fandom. Actually saw Pearl Jam at Ridley Field that was probably another one I think that stands out to me was getting to see Pearl Jam at Ridley Field was was just incredible experience as well.

Speaker 1: 46:42

That would be phenomenal. I've never seen them.

Speaker 2: 46:45

Oh, my God.

Speaker 1: 46:46

I know, if they, if they ever come, I'm definitely, I'm all in all in.

Speaker 2: 46:54

He's worth the trip, anywhere you go. He's mellowed out a lot If you watch a lot of his earlier shows and stuff, like on YouTube or whatever. Like he's a wild man, he was insane. It's kind of hard to believe that he's still alive, Just from climbing all over the stage sets jumping in the crowd hanging upside down.

Speaker 2: 47:15

Yeah, hang upside down, just like, like he's. He was a maniac back in the day and like that, you know, I think I think you really feed off of his energy. You know, I've tried. I've seen Pearl Jam probably, I don't know five or six times now, and they've all been spectacular venues Twice at Bonnaroo, ridley Field, trying to think where else. Those are the ones that stand out for me, though.

Speaker 2: 47:46

As far as Pearl Jam goes, like you know, I was at that Bonnaroo show and I want to say maybe it was like oh eight or oh nine, the one where Kanye West like completely lost his fucking mind and people were like he was supposed to play, like it's like late night glow in the dark thing, or something like that. And this was like right when Connie was like hitting his peak, he hadn't become like. Just like you know, I think Connie personally has some mental health issues, so I don't want to, like you know, bag on him too much because I think there's a lot going on inside of there, but at this point in time those things kind of had manifested themselves yet, and so Pearl Jam played that night. For I mean, if every time I tell the story, it feels like it gets longer, like it was probably just three hours, but it felt like they played for six hours. They played so long that Kanye got pissed off.

Speaker 2: 48:42

He was supposed to go on next after after them. That he couldn't. I don't know. He just typical Kanye excuses, but Bonnaroo the next day was chance. Fuck Kanye. People had spray painted on the walls. Fuck Kanye.

Speaker 1: 48:55

What was he doing? He's just losing his mind, or what?

Speaker 2: 49:00

He had. He had an excuse I forget exactly what it was, but basically I think the gist of it was he couldn't, he didn't have enough time to get his stage set up, or you know, just typical Kanye nonsense. And so from that point forward I was like I'm out on Kanye.

Speaker 1: 49:20

Yeah, yeah, I hate singers like. That Drives me crazy. It's like we made you.

Speaker 2: 49:25

Yeah, we're here for you. So, like you know, and I understand you know, there's artistic element to it. But, excuse me, you know artists play, true artists play all kinds of music and all kinds of environments, acoustic, all that stuff.

Speaker 1: 49:44

You know, like you know you got to be ready, and that's one thing they'll love about that Rolling Stones book is because they played. Where was it was? I don't want to say Belize, but it was something like that, like Brazil or something like that, and this is going to be the largest outdoor show that's ever been performed, like a million people, which is crazy, and it was literally just kind of down and around the beach and around like it was psycho and big, huge, like TVs, you know, like big screens, because obviously those people around the banner I'm going to see fuck all. And he was just like how is the sound? Because that's all he like. He's very, like, you know, technical when he's speaking about like guitar or anything like that. So he's like you know you can get on there and then, like these people can hear the sound, but like the echo in the stadium, so it's, I never would even think of those things. So when he might.

Speaker 1: 50:41

In the book it's like oh, whoa, like that's what you're nervous about. You're nervous because he goes hey, one little sound in a tin and it just it can wreck the whole tight. Like the first eight rows could hear you, but then nobody else can hear you. I never would have even thought of that.

Speaker 2: 50:58

I would either. Right, Like I was like oh, that's really interesting and but like I think that, like that they're striving for that absolute perfection, like that is what makes them so great is that it was never good enough, it always had to be better, it could always sound better. You know, let's try this, let's try that. That's, I think that's, what makes them great, is they? They never stop hustling.

Speaker 1: 51:21

That's right. Do you play a musical instrument at all?

Speaker 2: 51:23

I have zero ability. I can't sing, I can't play an instrument. I you know I took piano lessons as a kid but it didn't really like stick with me. I was more interested. Sports was my thing growing up. I wish now that I could go back and tell myself like, hey, you know, got this out, you'll appreciate it. But no, I never, I never. I was always kind of the sports kid I was. I was always trying to outside play and sports with my buddies and stuff, as opposed to sitting in the garage, jamming or whatever. That's one thing. That's one thing you know I wish I did have was musical ability.

Speaker 1: 52:02

But how about dancing? Are you a really good dancer?

Speaker 2: 52:06

Um, I can keep rhythm, which you know a lot of people can't do. You know, my mom used to normally want to be at shows and she'd be, you know tapping her foot or you know smack in her side or whatever. But you know she always had a good rhythm as well. She always kept the right tempo to the songs or whatever. So you know, I think that's like what I get from her is just, at least we have rhythm.

Speaker 1: 52:32

That's right. So are you like, do you like, to take risks? Have you ever eaten like anything unusual? Did anything like super crazy?

Speaker 2: 52:45

Um, you know, I'm not I've never really been like a super big risk taker. Um, I'm trying to think like that's a good question. I'd be curious to know what my wife thinks about that. So maybe when we're done with the show and she's listening to it, she can help me on that one. Um, as far as food goes, I mean I will definitely try anything Um craziest thing. I mean we've eaten eel before, like in sushi and stuff, and you know that's not what I'm trying to think. Even like places that we've traveled to, um, some of the stuff you know, like in Europe the cuisine is entirely different. Um, some of the stuff you know, um, I've had, I'm gonna say, maybe Ox tail. I'm not interested. Ox tail was an interesting one that I was surprised to find that I like. So I think probably that would be the craziest thing I've ever had.

Speaker 1: 53:56

Yeah, I'm always interested to know if people have like. Some people are like nope, no it's. Even if you tell me it tastes like chicken, I'm not having it, I just don't want it. And other people are like, yeah, I'll try once.

Speaker 2: 54:09

Whatever, yeah, I think that was one of the things that my wife and I have in common is just a love of food. She grew up in a Southern household, so a traditional Southern household, so she's used to spreads that you can't even imagine.

Speaker 1: 54:27

Does she make good fried chicken?

Speaker 2: 54:29

Yes, we have. It's so easy to find a good chicken fried chicken around here that you don't have to make it yourself because yeah.

Speaker 1: 54:41

Oh, you guys are lucky, we have like KFC and Popeyes. I'm sure there's more, but I have learned how to make fried chicken because I love fried chicken and I love fried cold fried chicken in the morning, Like I'm not like a breakfast. Yeah, oh, I mean but if there's fried chicken in the fridge in the morning, I am fricking eating fried chicken first thing in the morning. I love it we went to a.

Speaker 2: 55:07

We went to a tailgate a football tailgate last weekend and my wife's cousin was the one who was hosting it and she got chicken tenders and I bet you I just ate. I bet you I ate 10 or 15 chicken tenders and then, and then we ate chicken in the airport the next day. We ate fried chicken buffalo chicken sandwich in the airport. We had it last night, I had it for lunch today. If you're ever, if you're ever in the South, public grocery stores is the best place to find consistently good fried chicken.

Speaker 1: 55:43

That is so hilarious that you said that. Cause when we were in Nashville and we rented a house, I took my husband there for his 40th birthday and we rented a house and so we went to, like you know, just like a convenience store that was kind of at the bottom of the hill and they had fried chicken there and we're like we're buying all this fried chicken and this lady was back there making fried chicken. My husband's like if you have some tomorrow, I'll come back and I'll buy it all. We bought all her bacon, like any bacon she bought, like had. And of course they thought that we were crazy because we were buying so much liquor.

Speaker 1: 56:17

right, they're like, oh my God, we're buying smokes and lottery tickets and fried chicken and bacon and they're like where? Like how are you guys gonna be here for them? They're like we're like five days. They're like, oh my God, you guys are like crazy with the amount of liquor you're buying and all the food that we're.

Speaker 2: 56:33

Gas station fried chicken is the best. It's like a hidden gem, Like if they have it, you have to get it. It doesn't matter if you just had dinner or lunch or whatever. Like you know, get you a two-piece snack, that's right. And you're good to go.

Speaker 1: 56:48

I love it All right. Next song Beach Boys. Beach Boys.

Speaker 2: 57:07

Yeah, I mean again, you know, first concert, this one. This one's really the ode to my mom, though she was the one that really turned me onto the Beach Boys, and in this song in particular they referenced the Indy 500. So when I was a kid I always thought that that was really cool, and anytime this song came on, I mean, we turned it up and be jammed in the car at the house. I had so many that I could kind of that I wanted to pick from for my mom, who was obviously a ginormous musical influence, but this one was the one that makes me think of her every time I hear it.

Speaker 1: 57:51

So I love that your mom was such a musical influence. What kind of music besides the Beach Boys was it like a whole bunch?

Speaker 2: 57:59

Yeah, I mean it was everything Like you know. She would tell me stories about when the Beatles first came to the United States and like how controversial that music was at the time. The lyrics, you know, I wanna hold your hand was a big deal and obviously by the time I listened to music that was a completely different thing. Yeah, but Beach Boys, and I think also from her, I got a love of not just pop music but female pop stars.

Speaker 3: 58:31

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 58:32

I mean, she had Gloria Estefan, yes, the Pointer Sisters, madonna, and so you know, now for me that's kind of translated into you know, I have a great pop playlist. It's Taylor Swift, adele, katy Perry, lady Gaga, christina Aguilera, and so I think that's really where, you know, her taste impacted me the most was female pop music.

Speaker 1: 59:02

I love that. My parent like you know, my mom was like Led Zeppelin, rolling Stones, that kind of stuff, and then my stepdad was 11 years older than her, so his music was, all you know, blueberry Hill and like. So when I grew up it was such an eclectic of music and I'm so grateful for that because it allowed me to like, really love everything.

Speaker 2: 59:29

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 59:30

You know I don't like the music that I don't like, like I will, and then I got to do that with my kids you know, and like I get to go to raves with them and they're like you're crazy, Like that's awesome, and people know, what I mean. Like we have a tradition, every year we go to Chasing Summers, right, and it's just something.

Speaker 2: 59:49

So you're like the cool mom.

Speaker 1: 59:50

I guess I'm the cool mom, but it's like really cool. It's weird Again. I don't know about you, but back in the day, when you know, and still to this day, it's like I like front row, I want to be there. You know, when bands were playing, we like pushed to the front, you didn't have stupid chairs like they have now. And here we're at this Chasing and every year it's so bizarre we're at Chasing Summers in this year with the kids and I'm like kind of standing back a little bit, not too far back, but back a little bit. I don't want to go and hang out in the crowd that much anymore and my kids are young, right, like in their 20s. I'm like you guys don't have to stand here with me, I'm totally fine, I'll be good, you just go in there like no, we're good. And I'm just like what I wanted to like? Get as close as I possibly could.

Speaker 2: 1:00:38

Oh, absolutely Every single time Like we would get to the venues like hours early and wait in line.

Speaker 1: 1:00:44

I know.

Speaker 2: 1:00:46

And just rent to the rail as soon as the doors opened and you couldn't. And then, like I mean from that point forward, like you couldn't move, yeah, that was where you were for, like you know, having many hours.

Speaker 1: 1:00:56

You'd have like their sweater on and you're like pulling their sweater off because you're sweating to death. Yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah, it's weird. Again, I just kind of watched them like this is so. Yeah, it's very, very different.

Speaker 1: 1:01:09

This year they had DJ Zed and I don't know if you know who that is, but probably like nine years prior we were in Vegas and we rented a cabana at this place called Tao and there was like six of us and we were drinking lots and there was like the cabana beside us just had like this. He seemed he was super young, probably like 18, 19 years old. So we're like, hey, man, come hang out with us, you're all by yourself, whatever. Right, have some drinks. So we were like he wasn't really drinking, but we were partying with him. And then next thing, you know he goes and DJs and it's Zed and I didn't. We didn't know right, we're like whatever.

Speaker 1: 1:01:48

So then when I'm telling the kids this, they're like Mom, you could be, like you could get us backstage passes, and I'm like I do have many photos, of photos back then. No, internet, really Like you wouldn't, maybe Snapchat or I don't know. I never use that, but and I was, you know that Starchke and Hutz movie with Will Ferron. He's doing the dragon. I was making him do the dragon and all this stuff. So there's all these pictures of him doing that. He's like don't post those on the internet. I'm like what the hell's the internet? I don't even know what that means. I'm not going to post anything. Yeah, exactly, I could have used those to get backstage passes. My kids were laughing. They're like oh my God, mom, you could have did that to get his backstage. I'm like thinking of my. You're not even up front in the stage.

Speaker 1: 1:02:31

I'm not doing shit for you. You're just standing there and me at a pie. How are you? I'm like, no, that's crazy. Kids are so funny. Yeah, it's crazy. All right, this is your last song. Are you ready?

Speaker 2: 1:02:44

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:02:51

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Speaker 1: 1:03:20

was Imperial on a great date. It's Porsche, right? Porsche.

Speaker 2: 1:03:25

Right. But first of all, it's impossible to grow up in the South and not have heard the Almond Brothers, or I mean quintessential Southern rock, like the kings of Southern rock. Super sad day when Greg Almond passed away. You know he's. The coolest thing about him is that he kept on going and he just brought in some incredible musicians to continue the band's legacy. And how important listening to those musicians Warren Haynes being probably the main one talk about how influential the Almond Brothers were to him and how important it was to carry on the Almond Brothers tradition and all that stuff.

Speaker 2: 1:04:13

This is probably one of the best instrumentals I've ever heard in my entire life. That live version, I want to say that was maybe one from Oakland, I think that was the one I picked. I can't remember, but just eight minutes of music and that's it, just music. I've actually got a good story about this one. It's pretty wild, but first time with the Bonnaroo, I want to say it was like 2004, 2005. I was still pretty naive at the time. I've been to some jam band shows before, so I was kind of familiar with the vibe, but I wasn't like you know, I didn't, I wasn't like fully into the scene or whatever. And so you know, bonnaroo is just this massive place and they the way we were camping was a long walk from our campsite to the main stage area and we they were set to play like the first show on Friday. They do some at Bonnaroo. They do some at that time. They did like a couple shows on Thursday night just to like entertain the folks.

Speaker 2: 1:05:23

But the event really started on Friday at noon and they were kicking it off with the Alma brothers. So we had spent some time exploring. We figured out a shortcut to get from our camping area to the main area without having to go like all the way around or whatever. But it required cutting through vehicles, like I mean, bonnaroo is just a ginormous field with cars parked in it, so like you're just kind of zigzagging your way through and like, listen, you're not going to believe this and I had never seen this before in my entire life. But so we're doing our shortcut or whatever, and we come around the car and are you familiar at all and first of all, this was not me that was involved in this but are you familiar at all with the term boofing? You know what that is?

Speaker 1: 1:06:07

No.

Speaker 2: 1:06:08

Okay. So apparently boofing is where you take your drugs and instead of ingesting them orally, you showed up your ass. Okay, and it's supposed to like help. Like I said, I never. I never tried it. I want to put that disclaimer out there. So we come around the corner and there is this lady who is apparently assisting a gentleman with this procedure or with this, this method of taking in drugs and you know we didn't always stick around to ask questions. She offered us as well and I was like you know, I'm good, I'm actually headed this way, like I'm gonna go ahead and take off. So we pretty immediately got out there. Out of there, went to the main area. Almond Brothers, I think, opened with this song with Jessica and basically opened Bonnaroo. So that's kind of like what I always think about was like this experience dude with his pants around his ankles.

Speaker 3: 1:07:11

She didn't have rubber gloves on, so it felt like she was prepared for this.

Speaker 2: 1:07:16

This wasn't like, hey, we just read this on Urban Dictionary or whatever, let's try it, I'm supposed to do this. It was like this was like her, this was how she was going to make her money for the weekend or whatever, and so that was the first time I learned about what boofing was.

Speaker 1: 1:07:32

Wow, I've never heard of that before.

Speaker 2: 1:07:36

And then so several years later, we had this big controversial thing at the University of Tennessee with a fraternity who got into butt chugging. Basically, you give yourself an enema and pour the booze into it and, like anybody who's listening, just google University of Tennessee, butt chugging on YouTube and you will see like one of the most painful news conferences you have ever seen in your entire life. It's basically an attorney with the kid who had to go to the. I mean, the kid gave himself alcohol poisoning, had to go to the hospital and like all those frat brothers behind him, and you just got to see it. You just got to see it like but it's all again.

Speaker 2: 1:08:18

Just google University of Tennessee, butt chugging and you'll find a whole slew of videos and stuff on it. So now, you know, when I hear Jessica, I think about my first Bonnaroo experience, first and foremost, and then the butt chugging thing. Like you know, it's always been an outdoor for me, never been an indoor. So I don't know, like how people can do that, like no, that that blew my mind. That just left a huge impression on me as far as like Bonnaroo goes, specifically, that being like probably like my first Bonnaroo memory.

Speaker 1: 1:08:58

What kind of drugs do you think she was sticking up his butt?

Speaker 2: 1:09:02

Probably like ecstasy Mali MDMA, like you know.

Speaker 3: 1:09:10

Weird.

Speaker 2: 1:09:11

Like I said, I didn't stick around to have like a two and a half years. Did I get your?

Speaker 1: 1:09:14

number Because I like, I want to be next.

Speaker 2: 1:09:17

I was like yeah, I'm probably just gonna go. I'm out of here.

Speaker 1: 1:09:21

We're gonna turn around. Looks like you guys are in some kind of ordeal here.

Speaker 2: 1:09:26

Yeah, this is definitely not something I was invited to. Clearly you're trying to hide. I apologize for being the one to find you. I'm probably just gonna be more scarred about this incident and you will be whenever you come down from whatever it was that you were on.

Speaker 1: 1:09:40

And then you realize that you're in 17 bum holes today, which is probably not a good thing, and then you push your hands. Then you're like oh, I should hold my hands.

Speaker 2: 1:09:50

The rubber gloves thing, kind of like, gave me a little bit of hope that she was at least trying to be somewhat sanitary about it. But like Bonnaroo, if, if, and I would never choose this method. But if I was choosing that method it would not be at Bonnaroo.

Speaker 1: 1:10:10

I love it. Thank you so much, matt, for joining me today on Music Junkies. I love your playlist. We had such a good time, but before I let you go, as you know, I like to have some words of wisdom that you could leave to our viewers today.

Speaker 2: 1:10:25

You know I gotta go with two step. Celebrate we will, because life is short but sweet for certain. That is great. I think that's good words to live by.

Speaker 1: 1:10:38

I agree Again. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2: 1:10:40

Matt, thank you so much. I had a blast.

Speaker 1: 1:10:42

Like follow, subscribe, follow him, stalk him. He loves to be stalked. He'll send you know, we can send you lots of bourbon, which will be really cool, and I'm seriously going to take you up. Like we really want to go to a race, right.

Speaker 2: 1:10:55

Yeah, 8500.

Speaker 1: 1:10:57

First I would love that here, if it was like this this one time.