Music Junkies Podcast

Newfie Comedy & Rockin Revelations: with Lisa Baker

October 09, 2023 Annette Smith / Lisa Baker Season 3 Episode 11
Music Junkies Podcast
Newfie Comedy & Rockin Revelations: with Lisa Baker
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Get ready to laugh and rock out with Lisa Baker, a stand-up comedian hailing from Newfoundland, who now livens up stages in Alberta. Lisa and I, your host, kick things off with a nostalgic journey exploring her diverse playlist. We embark on a trip down memory lane, relishing the good old days of Kenny Rogers, Dolly Parton, and Metallica while discussing the profound influence these artists had on Lisa's playlists. We also unearth the comforting nostalgia 'Sunny's Dream' by Ron Heinz brings to her, underscoring the power of music to transport us back in time.

Buckle up as Lisa and I navigate through the twist and turns of the modern-day definition of gentleman and love in the era of dick pics, or the lack thereof, in Annette's case. This hilarious conversation paves the way for a more profound dialogue about the importance of division of labor in relationships, shedding light on Lisa's admiration for her husband. From here, we make a detour to discuss the controversy surrounding Lizzo and the double standards rampant in the music industry. Lisa and I emphasize the need for inclusive, honest conversations and respect for boundaries, as a catalyst for meaningful discourse.

As we cruise towards the end of our journey, we face head-on the challenges Lisa encounters as a female comedian and the struggles women face in the music industry. We focus the spotlight on the heartbreaking story of Britney Spears and the systemic sexism women have to fight against. Despite these challenges, we also acknowledge the triumphant moments and the women who paved their way with anthems like 'Man! I Feel Like a Woman by Shania Twain. So, tune in for an episode filled with hearty laughs, memorable stories, and powerful insights about music, life, and the relentless pursuit of equality.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome everyone to Music Junkies, a podcast about people sharing extraordinary stories about how music has impacted their lives.

Speaker 2:

Welcome everyone to Music Junkies. I'm your host, annette Smith, and today's guest is a stand-up comedian Originally from Newfoundland, now living in Alberta. She's performed in every province and territory in Canada. She's hilarious, she's beautiful and you can barely tell she has an accent. Please welcome Lisa Barker. Baker Baker, sorry, that's okay. Please welcome Lisa Baker. How you doing? I am doing so well, it's hot in the province of Alberta and I love it. I love the heat. My husband's going crazy on the air conditioning, which is fucking drives me insane, but I'm accepting it for what it is.

Speaker 1:

I'm sitting in front of an air conditioner right now.

Speaker 2:

I just find I get so cold with this stupid air conditioner. Drives me absolutely. I'm always like is the air conditioner on? It's like yeah, how can you tell, like it's like 23 in the house, we need the air conditioner? I'm like I'm freezing, I'm freezing all the time. It drives me absolutely up the wall.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what happened, like in my 40s. Now it's like one minute I'm like, oh, it's so hot. And then the next minute I'm like it's really chilly in there. I know I don't want to be able to regulate anymore, I know.

Speaker 2:

So before we jump into your playlist, I always like to ask Lisa what was your experience putting your playlist together for me today?

Speaker 1:

Well, it was like all of the songs I just kind of thought about like when I'm driving, because I drive a lot, right, you know, being a touring comic, so I draw quite a bit and I just started thinking about what songs are on my playlist and what songs I look forward to hearing on my playlist when I know what's coming next, or the one I start with when I get in the car, and what has to be on every single, because I'll have like a playlist. But there's songs that are around, like five of them and I mean I just play. This is good, but you know what? It'd really be great if we added things again. So I just started and all the songs that sort of sort of give me a strong feeling when I listen to them, whether it's happy, sad, whatever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love it. I'm a huge playlist listener. When I'm driving to and I do the same same thing. It's like I have like 20 playlists and then it's like like I'm like a lot of the same songs on the same playlist I need to like, just let go. Just it's okay in it, just let go. So now I have a playlist that I've started when I started the podcast of all the songs that I've loved from the people that I've had on the show that I've never heard before. So now that's kind of like my go to because it brings back the memory of just like the story that they had for that or and usually I love the song. So it's, it's cool. All right works out, right, all right. Are you ready for your first song, lisa?

Speaker 1:

Yep, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

Sunny's dream.

Speaker 1:

Sunny's dream by Ron Heinz Lake. Great Ron Heinz, newfoundland born, musician, musician, arguably one of the greatest songwriters of our time. That is arguably one of the greatest songs ever written. He wrote it while driving through the prairies and when I was a little girl I've been singing that song since I could talk. So when I was like, my parents would always tell me, as I was growing up, whenever that song would come on they talk about when I was little and I would sing off.

Speaker 1:

But it's, it's just as it's funny, because what round horns? To me, round horns is very similar to like Neil Young, where it's like not not a great vocalist but a brilliant songwriter. And so the rest around, hans, you know, just agri just agri what you know? What I'm trying to say? I do Just agri is that how you say that word? I feel like it is.

Speaker 1:

But his, his catalog, if you will, I couldn't give a shit for it. But that song, honestly, I will like, I will like just everybody shut up and listen to this song and since leaving Newfoundland, like growing up, it was always this song he would sing like you know you'd be drinking or whatever he's going to hanging out. But then when I left the island. Now, when I hear it, it's very nostalgic, makes me homesick. Yeah, I can't listen to it at all. Around Christmas time I will literally drive down the road and just stop. But it's, it's definitely a song that gives me, it's comforting and it every time I hear it, instantly there's like a very strong feeling just of that nostalgia and sense of home. Yeah, so what was?

Speaker 2:

what was the music that you grew up with from your parents?

Speaker 1:

Well, growing up like I remember in the morning, my course you know Newfoundland weather is very unpredictable, right, so, especially in winter, you have to listen to the radio in the morning to find out if school is going ahead or whatever. There's always snow. Well, my mom would always have the Ocm on, which was an AM station, but so there would be like some wouldn't really be anything matter so, but it would be like from the 60s and 70s. Yeah, I grew up listening to a lot of that stuff. I remember loving Kenny, kenny Rogers and Dolly and Crystal Gale. You know, just grown up knowing all those songs Juice, is it Juice? Newton Livian, yeah, like all of those artists.

Speaker 1:

Eagles in the morning, yeah, and I would like my parents had an eight track in their bedroom and my brother and I would win and they only had a few and we would listen to those over and over and over again and that's sort of so that's sort of kind of what I grew up with was like what would be now considered like very classic rock, soft rock, country and disco too, and like the funk, because that was. They had one of those eight tracks so we listened to that and so it was kind of like very my parents I don't remember my parents being heavily in. We weren't to music playing client family. I don't remember my parents being heavily into music. I do know that growing up in Newfoundland you're surrounded by music. So it was kind of diverse because it was whatever was on the radio, yeah, which was really cool, right. So it ended up like my playlist is insane. When you listen to it it's like how did you go from Metallica to Blueberry Hill?

Speaker 2:

right.

Speaker 1:

Like how do you do that? And it's like oh, it's just, you know what ADHD helps.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm the same way. I'm on the same way. Did you grow up where you're? And so when I grew up, my parents listen to music all the time. You know, rolling, rolling up the car window and just like smoking and listening to like eight tracks in the car and you're like dying in the backseat. You're like what's happening. This is no seatbelt down either slot and you're crawling all over each other. I'm wondering why, like I, could always fit like 18 people in my Honda Civic. I learned it when I was a child.

Speaker 1:

We did not believe in fucking seatbelts at all People before Tetris was the thing.

Speaker 2:

So true, I love it All. Right. Next song oh come on in my darling. There's no time to waste. I've been dreaming about you the whole of long day, up all night, up all night.

Speaker 1:

Darina Harvey Bain so Darina is actually a friend of mine her and her husband, steve she is originally from Labrador City, wabush, back home and currently lives in Edmonton actually had them at my wedding form at my wedding. They've toured Canada, the United States. The thing I love about Darina is that she take because I described her sound to people have never heard them before is their Celtic rock. So they're not. They're not as soft as, say, you know, arbus descendants, great big, but they're not quite as hard as drop cake. Morpheus is a beautiful balance. She has an incredible voice. There's moments that she sang Joey by concrete blind in my wedding when she threw her head back, like it just goosebumps, like it's incredible.

Speaker 1:

That song in particular is an original song that they've written and I love that song because for me it's almost the, it's almost just the embodiment of Newfoundland, like it's.

Speaker 1:

It's especially that now that a lot of us have left, and so when you listen to the song, you know come on in, my darling, there's no time to waste.

Speaker 1:

I'm a dream about you, you know, and you know we're gonna be up all night and it's it's talking about going into the pub places on wheels, like it's. It's like that whole like going back home and kind of meet up with everybody again and enjoy everything and have a good time. You know, it looks like we're going to be up all night and it's definitely reminds me of all of the wonderful times I had when I go home and I'm not actually working and I get to go hang out with friends and, you know, let her hear down and go crazy. So that's why I love that song. It's just like it's almost like it takes that because we miss the island so much, and so I think it takes that sort of sadness and homesickness and spins it into. You know how much better it is when you go back to visit, yeah, and get to be around the people that you love, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so how many times have you made somebody kiss the card?

Speaker 1:

Oh, I've never. I've never done that, I've never done. I made my husband do it but I didn't perform it, which I took him to bar back home. But I've seen a lot of people kiss the car.

Speaker 2:

So what's the theory behind it?

Speaker 1:

It's it's well, it's the. It's an honorary, it's become an honorary nithalander. So screeching ceremony, you know, like Calgary has the white hat. Yeah, you know, newfoundland has a screeching and so screech was named. It's a Jamaican rum because a lot of people don't realize that Newfoundland and Jamaica have a lot of strong ties. And it's a Jamaican rum and it was named screech because that was the sound the Americans made when they drank it and so they named it screech. But it's basically come in, there's a. It's a fun, really cool ceremony. You're very silly and and hilarious. And then you know, you drink the shot, you'll eat some baloney and you kiss the catfish and there's a saying and whatnot. But tourists absolutely love it.

Speaker 2:

I bet, yeah, I have. My grandparents owned a fishing resort my whole life and we had a guy that ran like the herring the bait and did our smoke salmon and he was from Newfoundland and we always brought him back screech like when we go to town and and we all did, kiss the cod right because we're catching cod right off the docks or like let's do kiss, you know, let's do the cod.

Speaker 2:

So I know that just him experiencing that with us, like he was, you know, at this time he was probably like 66 years old, so he was just like in his glory that yeah, we were like so excited to do this and yeah, I think it's awesome. I love having like little rituals like that, where you know you're exposing that to people and they're excited about it, and then you know, obviously your island becomes known for that and they get excited about that and then everybody can embrace it. Something fun to connect with.

Speaker 1:

It is, yeah, and it is a fun little, fun little ceremony when you actually see it in action.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so tell me a little bit about what kind of girl you were growing up in high school. Were you introverted, extroverted?

Speaker 1:

Oh, totally, extra, total extroverse, always, always needing to like, like to the party, entertain people like that was always my thing. So it's not a it's not a stretch that I became a comedian. It is kind of incredible given that I, you know, I started in Newfoundland because it is much more challenging to start a career out there, especially at that time. But as a teenager, yeah, I think you could see that it was definitely happening. Yeah, I mean, I had good grades but I wasn't one of the good kids at all. I wasn't a bad kid, but I was definitely a party kid.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, is there a place in Newfoundland that all the kids used to go, just to kind of go out like did you bush drink? Is that where?

Speaker 1:

Oh, but yeah, well, yeah. So yeah, we do that, but it's for us like there'd always be. Like a lot of times out west I find people it's like a farmers field, yeah, or something like that, but for us it was more like in the woods. Sometimes somebody build a little shack in there we're on from. Specifically, there was, like we call it, mountains, not really a mountain, but it was a big, big hill. It was just covered in trees and rock and we climbed that and drink up there, because by the time the cops got to us, we knew they were coming and there was only so many ways that they knew how to get to us. So, yeah, we had that. We definitely had that stuff, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we did a lot of that in BC too, like we never. I know here in Alberta they do do farmers fields, but in BC was the same thing. It was like let's go to the trestle, let's you know then I'm a lakes road. We go down there westward lake.

Speaker 1:

Great, it was like the pole line. Yeah yeah, there's all these spots, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

That literally would take you forever to drive in there and the cops would be like why the fuck am I driving 12,000 to go and bust these kids that are only going to drive drunk and then go to the next place?

Speaker 1:

It just makes no, no we weren't even old enough to drive, so we were just like in your head. I was somebody's like on the big red, the three wheelers, the old three wheel ATVs, yeah, something like that.

Speaker 2:

I love it. I love this next song. You're the first person actually, which is surprising. I've probably did close to 200 podcasts and this song has never came up and it's a great song and I see whiskey, it's crazy, yeah, chris Stapleton.

Speaker 1:

So my husband has a very, very diverse his very diverse taste of music, as his playlist also very collected. He introduced me to Chris Stapleton so I had never really, because I don't. I remember like at the beginning of teenager I was very much in the country and then I kind of got out of this. I'd hear an you know the odd song here and there if it was super popular, but otherwise it wasn't a genre that I would seek out and we were actually my stepson's wedding and this was playing and my husband just pulled me to the dance floor and now Brett does the whole two-steppy spin, you all that stuff. So he was doing all of that. But he was singing the song to me and I thought this is a really beautiful song and so Conor became our thing that we would always dance this. He would sing it to me, I would ask him to put it on so he could dance with me and sing it to me, and it became our song.

Speaker 1:

And when we just got married in June and it was actually our wedding song, and then we went on our honeymoon. We go on our honeymoon anyway, and we're there and there's a live band at this bar in Verridaire and they're talking to us, they're walking around and we tell them we just got married. So then they get up and they're like we're going to send this next song out to the newlyweds from Canada. So they start playing Tennessee Whiskey. So we get up to dance and I said to my husband I was like, oh, it's so cool that you told the band about our wedding song. And he goes. I thought you told them and it was just by chance that they played that song for us.

Speaker 2:

And it turned out to be our wedding song, and I tell people.

Speaker 1:

I'm like it's not because he's a rage and alcoholic or anything and I saved his life, it's just we just love this and who, like Chris Stapleton's voice is really like a very, very smooth whiskey, like it is just that. Yeah, it is just beautiful. And so it absolutely made sense that that would be our wedding song. But it just kind of freaked me out when the band randomly played it in Cuba and I just think Chris Stapleton, he's, he's brilliant, he has an amazing voice and that song just it just makes it just. I know it shouldn't because it's well, I mean I guess it should, but it just makes me feel like pure love. Yeah, it's just. I think it's just a beautiful song.

Speaker 2:

How'd you meet your husband Online just?

Speaker 1:

like you know how everybody doesn't just online. I very much was fed up with it all and kept kept dating because I thought, well, if I'm a decent person, there's got to be at least one other decent person on there. And then end up meeting him and for the first you know probably month I was like this fucking guy, the lack of red flag. There was serious red flag and turns out he's just a normal dude and I found him. I found the one other decent person on there.

Speaker 2:

How many dick pics did he send you before you went on a date?

Speaker 1:

Here's the funny thing he's never, ever sent me one.

Speaker 2:

I was asked that question because, like that's all I hear about dating online. It's like hi, how are you? Here's my dick. And it's like I've seen hundreds, but yeah. And actually.

Speaker 1:

I have a joke where I'm like never sent me a dick pic and I was like, what a gentleman? And I go, because that's the modern day definition of gentleman is a man who doesn't send you an unsolicited picture of his junk.

Speaker 1:

Like we should do a podcast and you should bring all those pictures and we should just be like we'll put emojis on the little hat and look at this dick. It's so insane, Right? But yeah, and I was like this is the bear has never been lower. If that's where we're starting the definition of gentleman now.

Speaker 2:

So it's so bizarre, like it's gross. It's gross it is. It is really gross and I have never got one. I feel like nobody loves me, like I never get them, not that.

Speaker 1:

I it's. It's one of those things, though, like because I've heard women say they're like I've never gotten one. I feel like you know I'm being left out and it's like no, if you got one, it just takes one to ruin it. It just takes one where you're like you know what, it's not worth it. Some of the happiness deals can't even take a decent selfie, like who thinks the dick bit is going to be a work of art.

Speaker 2:

You know it's not. What do you love most about your husband?

Speaker 1:

What do I love most about my husband? Probably that he shows up. So, no matter what's happening, no matter how difficult it is, no matter. You know, some people get uncomfortable in certain situations and they'll kind of try to move away from it or stay away from it, but he runs towards it. So, you know, I remember the first time that I was upset about something and was, you know, it's just sad and just started like crying and his first instinct like he's nurturing, almost like his first instinct was to come to me right away to hold me to, you know, to try to make me feel better and listen to me, you know. And so I really appreciate that about him, because it's not something you see in many people, let alone me, right. So I really love that about him.

Speaker 2:

That's good. I love that. I love hearing that because there is. You know, my husband is like a true gentleman as well, and I love hearing that there's still guys. It makes me nervous, you know. We've been together for 23 years and I say to him I'm like, oh my God, like worst case scenario, you die and I become a widow Like I'm not even going to be able to find a guy that can hang a fucking picture Like what, like what.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to have to go hire like a handyman, 80 year old, to come over to the house Clean the wind. Like I don't even know what's happening, Like these guys don't even know how to do anything.

Speaker 1:

Well, and the thing with like yeah, because if they, I say to him I was like you got to go first because I can't. I can't do this, like because he does so much for my career. Now, like he's so he loves everything about what I do and he's so incredibly supportive. But I mean he handles like my website, my album covers, my merch. He does all of that stuff and, honestly, like I end up ending all the handy stuff around the house Like not that. And the thing is that I love is because I was single for a very long time before I met him. So I'm I used to be a tradesperson. I'm also capable of doing all the things caught in the grass. You know doing all stuff. You know I can. There's a lot of stuff I can do on my own, but it's nice when there's someone there who's like well, you're working right now, so like you don't need to all do this thing or all do that thing. So it's nice to have that sort of division of labor.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I agree, we have some job job. So yeah, I'm like I know I could cut the grass, but it's a blue job. You go cut the cake I.

Speaker 1:

There's certain things you don't like, like I hate. There's a lot of things in the house I'll do, but one thing that I absolutely hate is taking the garbage out. Yeah, like out of the way, and it's just. It wasn't until years ago when I saw something in the garbage that nobody should have to see, and so like, even like putting stuff in the dumpsters, like when I lived in an apartment and stuff I'm like I can't, I hate this. And so when he came along and he's like I'll do the garbage, I was like this is perfect.

Speaker 2:

I'll marry.

Speaker 1:

Of course I'll marry.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry did you say you want to marry me.

Speaker 1:

I because you want to put the garbage out, but yeah, that's, and just little things like that, just stuff I don't like to do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I agree, right, next song.

Speaker 1:

Well, one fine day in the month of June. She's a downtown girl, she's a get-around girl. I figured that it'd write me a silly little tune. She's a downtown girl for sure. Downtown girl, downtown girl by the Irish descendants. I just love that sound because it's so. I love that, I love the beat of it, I love all of that. But I just love it because it's just, it's just a fun song, it's just. You know, and I, a lot of times when I'm doing a show and they say, do you want us to play some music before you get on stage? What song do you want us to bring you up to? And I will always say downtown girl.

Speaker 2:

And then when I get up on, stage I go.

Speaker 1:

I love that song. It's about a whore and I just love it. I love it. It's just super cute. Brings the ice, yeah, just. And it's just a fun song like, because even when I get up, no matter where I am, I'll start clapping and the whole audience will start clapping to the song. And it's just a nice thing to kind of build the energy at the beginning of the show and I just love listening to it. It's just a fun song.

Speaker 2:

I love it. So take you back to your teenage years. What, what posters were on the wall?

Speaker 1:

Back in the teenage years, oh God, honestly, when I was a teenager. I don't even remember putting posters on my wall Did you have a crush on?

Speaker 2:

like, well, I do, I do.

Speaker 1:

Well, those guys, yeah, like I remember like, so, like, say, the very early teen years and that like preteen it was like new kids on the block. And you know there was a Tiffany, Debbie Gibson I'm so old. And then when I moved out of the pop stuff as a teenager, I moved into, I went from the pop kind of stuff to like alternative grunge metal that kind of thing, and then I started to dive a little more into classic rock at that age. So I was really in the hearse and a couple of others, queen, you know that kind of thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, who was your? Who was your? Your lead singer guy that you're like oh my God, axel.

Speaker 1:

Rose. Yeah, hands down. Axel, wrote my teenagers 100% Axel Rose. Yeah, yeah, absolutely Axel Rose.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my girlfriend Autumn loved Axel Rose too and I was more of a duff girl. I liked Axel. But because everybody liked Axel I was like. Then I was always like geez, is this guy's stuff?

Speaker 1:

his pants Like dude like are you folding up your wiener and just?

Speaker 2:

like rolling it up, like aggressive. It's like I'm like that is because I want to see what it looks like Like that ludicrous line red carpet, it could just roll out. Like so much, oh God Was when you were into grunge, like, what kind of brought you there? Was it like Nirvana? Oh it was definitely, yeah, definitely. Nirvana.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that was the first introduction, and then it just kind of went from there.

Speaker 2:

Do you remember the first cassette or CD that you bought, the very first CD?

Speaker 1:

But your own money. I believe and this is hilarious, but I do believe the first cassette I bought with my own money was actually Alice Cooper, nice. Yeah, I remember because it was in the. It was remember you go in and they'd have them like in the bin and stuff, yeah.

Speaker 2:

They'd have them like five bucks, yeah, and then they didn't have like, also like them.

Speaker 1:

They'd have them like on a rack or whatever, and Alice Cooper and I got the Alice Cooper cassette, yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's when you were forced to like listen to the whole album, like it was such a pain in the ass to like fast forward.

Speaker 1:

Well, especially when you first get it, because it was like I know I love this song, but let's see what else is on here. Yeah, but it was still. It was painful. It was painful, but you actually liked the whole album the time that you were done, oh yeah you would, but like you'd sit there because it's like, well, if this next song sucks, you know I either have to fast forward or whatever. But yeah, it wasn't like now.

Speaker 2:

we just, you know, yeah it's like they have to put out one song. They don't even have to put out like five no, no, no.

Speaker 1:

And actually I love that Because I mean I'm back in the day, of course, when I was really young artists would do that. I remember having like Beastie Boys, where like one side was one song, one side was another song. I remember having oh God, what was that girl's name? Stacey Q.

Speaker 2:

Oh, oh, my God, that is so crazy, samantha.

Speaker 1:

Fox, yes, the albums, and like it'd be one song on either side. I don't even know what those were called, maybe 45. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

But they were like the, you know, just short albums, and I love that. Now it's so much easier for an artist to release just like the one song and have the platform to release a song on a bigger scale, say before the whole album comes out, even. Yeah, because even as comics it works for us, because we used to be that we would do albums that were like 45 minutes an hour and now we can do like 20 minute albums because you're just going to put them, you're going to send it to Sirius XM for them to play the joke, so you can get the royalties, but then you put it on the streaming platforms and you're not burning through as much material.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so funny that you said Stacey Q, because I haven't heard that for so long. And somebody just sent me their playlist and Stacey Q, two of hearts, was on there. I was like two of hearts, oh my God. And I played it. I was like oh my.

Speaker 1:

God, I haven't heard this, for God. I remember she was on I was a little kid and she was on an episode of the facts of life and I think it was her and Tooty were like going after. I think it was like doing some kind of audition or something and yeah, I like that was the shit your brain holds on.

Speaker 2:

I know it's so crazy. All right, next song.

Speaker 1:

They don't know. I do it for the culture. God damn. They say I should watch the shit I post. Oh, god damn, say I'm turning big girls in the holes.

Speaker 2:

Oh God damn rumors Lizzo.

Speaker 1:

I love this song because the lyrics are just absolute fire.

Speaker 1:

You know all the rumors are true stuff, but the I just I love, I love that she's so she kind of a true.

Speaker 1:

She writes about whatever is happening in her life, which I feel, like most artists like, we talk about what we know, right, so it just makes sense that we would, because that you would talk about the hate you guys, because she, you know, she has such a huge platform and the thing is for and people can, you know, try to say this isn't true or whatever. But you just look at the comment section of the male artist of any sort of medium and a female artist of any sort of medium, and of course, liz has got a lot more going against her than, say, a very slim, white, blonde woman who's 20 years old, right, and so I certainly it's harder than what the man would have it, but I just love that she was talk like she talks about, you know, in the song being focused on her, but then all of these people are saying this stuff and it's, you know, the lyric of, like, you know, spending all your time trying to break a woman down, real as shit is going on. Take a look around.

Speaker 1:

And it's like yeah, like why are you wasting all of this energy on someone who's just simply existing? What is it affecting you? Right, exactly Like there's actual stuff in the world that needs you to be upset about, needs you to rage against, and this isn't one of them. You know, I know there's she's got there's a lot of, you know, controversy right now with Lizzo and the lead, the legal stuff she's got going on. But that aside, the song itself, the lyrics, I just love that she's so unapologetic in existing.

Speaker 2:

I love that. You said that I'm a huge believer in that too. I feel like that's the type of person that I am and I feel like I'm trying to create that culture with my podcast. What I've noticed over what I've kind of seen, is that I would love to have somebody like her on my podcast because I believe that she would be an artist that could be very, very transparent and what I find that's really, to be honest, a lot of the times. I really go for comedians because I feel like they can be very transparent.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes, when I have an artist on here, it's like oh, I don't want to say that, I don't want to make. Do you know? It's like listen, if you don't believe in something, to say you don't believe in something, who? It's your problem. You're allowed to have an opinion. You're allowed to say what you want to go say. I just feel like people are so worried about you know what am I going to say? That's why you probably noticed when I sent you you know, your kind of follow up letter. I said this podcast has explicit content you would be amazed.

Speaker 1:

This is my Weeding out.

Speaker 2:

Process. I'll be honest. You'll be amazed. People will come back and like what do you mean by sexual content? It's like well, if you tell me a story, it's about your husband or your boyfriend. I might ask you how long it took you guys to have sex. Right, you have a choice, though to not answer or to answer. That is up to you. I told you in the beginning you don't like the question. You could pass. I have no idea what your songs are going to bring up, so how?

Speaker 1:

am I supposed to know? That's right. We don't know where the conversation is going to take us, and you know, this is like I've I've never like.

Speaker 1:

There are things in my life that are private, but it's very few things and it's pretty much the same stuff that the majority of people would keep private. But there's a lot of my life that I'm very public about, and I also try to make it so that when I like, when I want to create like an inclusive safe space and that's not to say that, because I say whatever I want and that's my inclusive safe space, like, you know what I mean. So if a woman wants like, when I'm like, I'll talk about, say, being slutty. You know, I love. I love women, only their sexuality I love. I love that, I love that we're kind of moving towards that. I love anything that's sex positive.

Speaker 1:

But when people come in, though, and they start being judgmental or whatever, I'm like yeah, you can fuck off, we don't, we don't need that energy in here. That's not what. That's not what this is about. So it's more about like. For me, the only kind of people I would keep out are people who are, you know, judgmental, shitty, uptight, those kinds of people who think, like, my way of life is the only way of life, yeah, and it's like well, you know, what your neighbors are doing next door has no effect on you.

Speaker 1:

So just shut up, you know. So that's always kind of in my thing, but I'm very honest about what I believe, or whatever. And you're right, people, as a comedian, it's not like people are drawn to that, and that's one thing that people say that they appreciate about me is that I'm honest and there's no bullshit, and I just don't, I don't have time for it anymore. I'm getting older and I'm just like I don't have time for this shit. And and honest to a point where I'll admit, like even my faults, you know, like I do find myself falling into where I'm like, oh God, I sound like a boomer now, you know what I mean. Like certain things that I'll say and like, oh, why is the music so loud in here? Like when did I become that person, you know, or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I can't hear what you're saying. I've never said that before.

Speaker 1:

I know, and so now I'm like, I'm even honest about the fact that like yeah, it's part of me that are getting shitty. You know, like I just don't see the point in how I knew we are.

Speaker 2:

It's just strange to me, because I feel like we are trying to live in this world of honesty and respect and we can do whatever we want.

Speaker 1:

But that's like this surface thing that we see, but then you try to do that and it's like oh well, I mean, even just if you look at like I said again, going back to the existing just even the people that get enraged, enraged over a 10 second video that I make, that when you watch the video you're like I don't. So what exactly do they get mad about? Like, if you can't wrap your head around it?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then when you find out why they're mad, you're like oh, for fuck's sake, like, and it's because you know I'm doing something as a woman that they don't think I should be doing as a woman.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, and it's like whatever, like I'm telling you. So I'm driving a car.

Speaker 2:

Go kiss a car, goddamn it. Go kiss a car. All right, next one. I'm gonna fast forward this beginning because it's hey Metallica. They're coming to Edmonton next year.

Speaker 1:

I know it's exciting. I love Metallica, I this song for me, so I was introduced. This is when I started to get into metal, so I was introduced to this song. This is a crazy way to get introduced to metal. Grade nine literature class I had a teacher who introduced us to poetry by way of song lyrics and this was one of the songs that the teacher yeah, another one, I think another one was like Megadeth maybe or maybe a couple other ones, but like he used music and obviously he was, this was what he was into because it was quite heavy on the metal. But I remember and then he played us, we write the lyrics and then he played the video for us and I remember just being totally intrigued and really in Metallica after that and that song of course you know the, the whole story and all that stuff is is amazing, but just the, the music itself is incredible. When you sit and just listen to the whole, it's like, it's like a journey just musically, and I love it. I just love that song.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love Metallica. I grew up pretty heavy on Metallica. I liked everything. I was one of those people that liked Prince and then also Metallica. I would make huge hair band 80s girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I loved Vince Neil. Like yeah, I love Vince Neil's. Like eight four more.

Speaker 1:

Vince Neil's and he's like a hundred years old and I know Now it's like he won't sing anymore.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, now Nikki Six looks better, right, so it's like you're a taste. Who would have?

Speaker 1:

thought right.

Speaker 2:

Who would have thought? Who would have thought? Again, my girlfriend, I love Nikki Six and I liked yeah, you know, vince Neil, but I absolutely love Metallica Just an incredible band, and we're gonna go see them in in Edmonton. I've seen so many bands and that is somebody that I have not seen, which I don't understand why. I just feel like maybe I wasn't in the realm of where they were traveling to, so I'm not for sure.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't because, like in Newfoundland, we don't get bands like that. Right, we'll get bands We'll get, but you're not, you're never gonna see like Lady Gaga or Pink or Metallica or Taylor Swift. You're never gonna see those artists in Newfoundland. Just because of the first of all, that we, the arena that we do have, isn't big enough, and then the other side of it is, of course, the expense of getting there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And and it's risky, like it's risky every time you go to Newfoundland, you know, are we gonna get out of here?

Speaker 2:

Do you remember your first concert you ever been to?

Speaker 1:

My very first concert ever was well, I don't, we would always so they would do a lot of these big concerts. They would do outside, back home.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So you would, you would go outside and like in a big field and they would have it all you know. You'd buy your tickets and you'd go inside just beer, tent, blah, blah, blah. But we would always because we were kids so we would just go to like the other side of the lake, which you could hear everything, you could still see it, all that kind of stuff, and we would do that and I remember we saw it was like meatloaf. Brian Adams was the first one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro, this was the first one. Um, I don't actually remember my first ever, like actual, bought tickets and went to the concert. Um, but that I know that was the first one that I ever I was like 14 we got drunk in the field. Um, it was an all day thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we had a good time and so we were on the island too, so we didn't get a lot of people. It was like Kim Mitchell Right Adam's trooper, trooper well, trooper goes everywhere. Yeah, and so we would have to take the ferry and go to Vancouver, right, right, yeah, so we might be like lots, lots are closest. Our closest would be.

Speaker 1:

Halifax yeah Right, if you got lucky. Now I have seen some great acts in Newfoundland. You know, I've seen Kiss in Newfoundland tragically hit Um. I've seen um Kim Mitchell as well. Dr Hook, uh, but uh also goes everywhere in his paddling entrance. Uh, I did I did see Brian Adams in concert eventually, um, but you know I've seen her. Uh, tom Petty was one of the great ones that I I got to see.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would have seen Tom Petty.

Speaker 1:

Oh, tom Petty was amazing and um, yeah. So you know, we did get some, but we just didn't get the the huge, huge. And a lot of the ones that did come to Newfoundland were artists who came because they had been there previously, perhaps, like when they weren't so, uh, on their way off, right, yeah, and we loved it so much. So whenever I talk to comics and then my friend Erin uh, who is the musician, she says the same thing about bands Every one of them will say Newfoundland was their favorite place. Because in Newfoundland you really are treated like a rock star, and even for me, as a comedian when I tour the island, um, because Newfoundlanders are very lovely too, in the sense that, like Russell Crowe will go there a lot and play it like over mics and stuff. He's friends with Alan Doyle, but he'll, um, he can walk the streets like the Newfoundlanders won't bother you, yeah. So even when I go there and I mean I'm like I'm well known in Newfoundland, but like I'll go to the smaller communities, even in St John's, in the city, you know, like I'll be eating dinner or something I go to get up to leave and somebody will approach, want a picture or want to talk to me, but they'll wait till I'm finished eating, right.

Speaker 1:

Um, people are really really cool like that and, um, they treat, they treat you well, like it's you know they're they're bringing you stuff or they're you know, offering you things or wanting to help or whatever, but also just in awe of, uh, the artists that they're going to see and and really will treat the rock, the rock stars, like they are genuine rock stars, like they're still impressed. They're not that city type that's like, oh well, whatever we saw. So and so last week, like you know what I mean, they're like, oh my god, it's BroBur. Oh, that's awesome, I love it.

Speaker 1:

They actually there's a cool story about how Trooper was trying to get to. I think what I say was Bogo, the island in Newfoundland, and I can't remember what happened. The ferry was down or something, but people started I can't remember what island it was, but anyway, fishermen and stuff they started putting the gear in their boats and bringing it across and bringing Trooper across, and it was like this really cool, like this concert is happening, kind of. Uh, I think and yeah, and so I just think like stuff like that is just very it's just the epitome of, of of how Newfoundlanders are with, uh, with, like any any celebrities that come through or anyone who's going to entertain them.

Speaker 2:

I love it. It's great. Alright, let's free Britney.

Speaker 1:

I love Britney Spears. For years Britney was my guilty pleasure. I didn't tell people I listened to her and then I was like, as I got older I didn't give a shit anymore. I was like no man Britney's the tits like, oh, I love Britney Spears. Um, I love all of her music. Uh, that song I like because I just love, I love the, the, just the rhythm of it, the beat, uh, I love the lyrics and, uh, it's just one of those songs that make you when you, when you sing along with in the car, it just makes you feel like a badass. And yeah, I just, I just love her.

Speaker 1:

I think I think she's great. I know she, you know she got a lot of shit and then, of course, everybody was like, oh no, but they're being mean to her, so we should be nice, and it was just like a weird thing. But I've always loved Britney, I've always respected her. Um, yeah, I mean even when I remember when she uh, her and uh K-Fed was, I think uh, kevin Federer, and the little yeah is when they split and she basically let him raise the kids, and I remember people getting really shitty about that, saying, you know, like you know, imagine a mother doing blah, blah, blah, and I remember like my friends were moms, you know, like you know that's just ridiculous and I was like, but if he gave her custody nobody would bat an eye.

Speaker 1:

And she has this huge career and she has this crazy schedule and I thought it almost is like she's acting in the best interests of her children and not her own selfish needs. So I just felt like I mean she, financially, she took very good care of her children. So I just always felt like she, she got a real shitty deal, a real raw deal, and no matter what she did, it wasn't great and so she kind of I think that probably led a lot to her sort of spiral is because it's frustrating when it's like if I do a, they're gonna hate me, if I do B, they're gonna hate me, if I do C, they're gonna hate me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't think she had a lot of real people you know in her circle. I watch that free Britney thing and I forgot that her and Justin Timberlake dated. I forgot about that and then like rewatching that it actually made me sick to my stomach. I was like this guy is bragging about potentially taking her virginity. Like what the fuck is going on, like we're just letting this happen.

Speaker 1:

The stuff that we sort of is. Even at the times, a lot of stuff may not have sat quite right with us.

Speaker 2:

But we didn't really understand, like at the time.

Speaker 1:

No, and we would have been laughed at if we brought it up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, until we were like being stupid or whatever, ridiculous, sensitive, whatever. And yeah, I just thought I mean, look at Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton. Like we all look at that very differently than it was portrayed back then. Now that would have been handled very differently. But with Britney, like I do, I feel like a good good, good.

Speaker 1:

Majority of everything that went wrong for her was a direct result of the people that were surrounding her. And if you have people that are just like, yes, man, that everything's just yes, yes, yes, when you should really have people around you that actually genuinely care about you and your well-being and your health and your mental health and all that stuff and sort of give her because I don't feel like she was ever given permission to have a life outside of her career and that was evident when we saw that she was still being basically forced to do that residency in Vegas. It's like, oh, she's so sick, but you're making her do this stuff and she was a cash cow to people, and so I feel like that that's a lot of it. It was that she never got an opportunity to even discover who she was as a person.

Speaker 1:

Yeah she has no identity.

Speaker 1:

Like how do you have a whole life where you can't even express how you feel to anybody because they will just record it, take that, throw it back in, you blackmail, you try to get money at it, like it's so crazy to be living in an environment like well, we and we know what happens with celebrities, especially when their children were growing up through this, and we know there's been instances over the years where there's been celebrities who was like, yeah, you know, you watch documentaries years later and it's like, yeah, and they were so out of it so we just gave them like two bumps of coke and pushed them out onto the state. You know what?

Speaker 2:

I mean, are you?

Speaker 1:

fucking serious Like.

Speaker 2:

I don't know why they're a junkie. That's fucking weird.

Speaker 1:

Like, and then, like I was just even recently watching a documentary about Bert Reynolds they were talking about, you know, lonnie Anderson saying you know, we needed this medication because he needed to get a good night's rest. They needed this medication because he needed to be sure, and then he needed this medic. And that's the thing, right, like it's. Like, how do we keep this person like? How do we just keep them working? They're treated like machinery as opposed to a human being, and I think that's what happened with Britney Spears, because even her own family didn't have her best interests, I know, in mind. It's heartbreaking, really, you know, and so I really hope that you know. Whatever she's, whatever she's doing now I mean, I follow her on Instagram. It's a little all over the place, but she needs to have time to find out who she is as a person, while also because Britney's watch she's got to be 40 by now- Gotta be.

Speaker 1:

And so also probably facing middle life crisis. So, and also all of the stuff we all go through as women the hormonal stuff, all of the so it's like Jesus Christ. Imagine going through the thing that you should go through when you're 20s.

Speaker 2:

And all we want is your money right, when all you want is our life.

Speaker 1:

It's crazy, it's heartbreaking, it really is like and.

Speaker 2:

I was watching on Paramount. There is documentaries there of WWF. I still say WWF, but it's WWE but it's like kind of broken down to each wrestler. And we were watching Rowdy Rowdy Piper the other day and it was like the craziest story. Randy Macho Man's, savage and him and Elizabeth, crazy shit. But it was all drugs it was. They were all gross.

Speaker 1:

I was all I watched this because I have to watch it.

Speaker 2:

It will blow your frickin mind Like. I did more old, like they did a lot of old school people, but I was like hoping, like British and for beefcake I hope they did Like they didn't even do Hogan, which when you watch each of the documentaries he's in there a lot and there might be a reason why they didn't do Hogan, because I think Hogan was I don't know, he's a bit of a knock case too, I think.

Speaker 2:

I think he was easily manipulated, in a sense that he was the face of the franchise and all these other people.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for a long time. I've read a lot of the biographies, the autobiographies. Mick Foley's books are incredible. Chris Jericho is also a great writer. A lot of the music goes right, or those guys didn't. We have same kind of thing, was like you know these guys, because Mick Foley, I'll tell you he go. You know that it's, it's a painful existence, so you're getting surgeries, you're getting this, and then you're expected to be back up in shape and back doing this stuff, and so it's no wonder that they were all, just, you know, out of their minds.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's crazy. You have to check it out. It's really.

Speaker 1:

I definitely will.

Speaker 2:

All right. Next song let's go girls. Nia Twain man woman.

Speaker 1:

That is the answer. You know, man, I feel like a woman and then you know, talks about I want to, and basically all of the things that go against what women are supposed to, you know, want to be or want to do. And, as well, I love about and but also at the same time, to still things that we, we, that we want to do to make us feminine. But it's, I feel like the song is just about being a woman on your own terms, and so I love that song. It's also my go to karaoke jam and because everyone will get out on the dance floor and everybody starts singing and it gets everybody pumped up. But yeah, it's just one of those songs that as soon as you hear it, it's like yes, let's go. It's like we just let's smash it, let's burn something down, like let's do shows, like it's just, yeah, it's just the of all people should I tween creates like one of the best type songs and I just love it. I just think it's a great song. I think it's just a great anthem for women.

Speaker 2:

How has your career as a female being a female comedian?

Speaker 1:

It's funny, just to give it. So one of the comics who's kind of right, you know coming up the ranks and doing very well and you know doing some really great things in the industry and they put up a post. She said I just want to get to the point where they can't, basically, where they stop pushing back on or stop questioning her, you know, and I and I replied because, because I'm, it took me a couple years to kind of accept this, but I'm in in Canadian comedy, I'm considered a female comedian, considered very successful, and so I was like I got bad news for you Because it actually seems to have gotten worse Now that I've climbed the ranks. You know my career. Basically I've been doing this for 17 years, but you know, two years ago my career exploded and like overnight, and now I'm at a point where, because I don't like to, I like I always had an ego, but then when everything got really crazy, I actually became more humble, which was interesting Because I think what it was?

Speaker 1:

It was like when you have a certain amount of people that, like you was like look at me, but then when you have, like a lot more people than you're, like, oh Jesus, I'm awful, like you know what I mean. And so I'm always trying to be a better person, which I love. That that's what it's inspired and made me. But but at the same time, I still I can't be a dormant and I still I need to assert myself, and that's been. It's at the point now where, when something happens, I just kind of go oh, I'm so, I'm too fucking exhausted for this shit today.

Speaker 1:

Like you know what I mean Like and so like I don't want to have to go back to people and go hi, I get where you're coming from. However, 17 years about to do my six debaters to lols, just for laughs, Norse laughs. Northwest Winnipeg Comedy Festival. Two seasons of a series. Second season I moved up to main cast and a writer Funniest person with a day job I won that the largest comedy competition in Alberta in 2016. Now I've toured the entire country.

Speaker 1:

I've opened for you know, Doug, stand. Like I shouldn't have to say these things. Do you know what I mean? Like I should because because the men don't, so I shouldn't have to sit there and try to explain to people. You know I'll have comics that'll get upset because I don't want to put them on my show, which is anywhere from $30 to $45 a ticket, because they just started to stand up and they can do five minutes. They know they can, their sure of it, and I'm like listen, I can't, you're not ready.

Speaker 1:

Work your way up like the rest of us did, yeah, and they get mad. And then what? They? They sort of see me on a like I know what level I'm at and I know there's always room to grow and improve and evolve, and that's what I work on. But don't treat me like I'm not at that level. I fucking earn that level, and so that's the thing I find is that I don't get respect isn't doesn't come as easily as it does for the men, yeah, so you kind of have to work for it constantly, even in situations where it should be an automatic given, which is frustrating.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I, I'm in the finance industry, so this podcast is my outlet, and it's the same fucking thing. It's like every time we turn around boys club, boys club, boys club, exactly fuck man. Like, oh, they're doing that. Okay, well, we'll just fucking sit over here and you know, oh, you're going on a you know playing golf. Like I don't want to fucking play golf.

Speaker 1:

Well, I had a guy one time like Booker, and he was talking about saying I wanted to do the show, and then he says, well, I don't know, we just had so and so, and it didn't go well. And I said oh, I said, did you hear of so and so for? And he's like no, and I said, exactly. So I actually have a strong social media following. I have proof that I put asses in seats. I have actual numbers of tickets sold. You know, like yeah, and so I have to like prove everything. I have to come out and prove everything right away. As soon as I open my mouth I have to have the numbers, that everything ready. And so I mean it's not always like that, but too many times it's like that, yeah, and it's frustrating. And yeah, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 1:

I remember one time because I used to work for a finance company and I remember we had this guy one of our customers would be in real shitty and it was a. We were a group of women are. My whole team was women, except for our boss who was a gay man. And I remember this guy says you know what? None of you, none of you women, know what you're talking about I need to speak to a man, put a man on the phone so I tell my supervisor he goes, tell me he gets a woman or a homo, it's up to him. And I was like I'm gonna love you, like and it's, and. But that's how it is. Like you know, there's always this sort of doubts. Everybody just doubts and you have to prove yourself, whereas for the men it's like we're gonna trust you until you fuck us over, until you fuck us, you know. Yeah, we realize that we shouldn't have paid to come see you. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2:

I agree. All right, it's brutal. It is brutal. I love Queen.

Speaker 1:

I do too, and this, that song is just so, so fun, it's so much fun. I mean there's there's a lot of Queen songs that I really love and I think Freddie Mercury was easily one of the greatest artists that I've ever lived but there's something about that song that's just. It's just makes you happy. Yeah, and whether you're in love or you're looking for love, or even if you just, you know, are going through shit, it's a great song to listen to. I just love that song so much. It's just and it kind of it's kind of. I love how it's almost like a, even though it's an older song. Even at that time, I feel like it's still going to felt very retro. Yeah, almost like they, they they decided to add like a stronger, heavier rock component to like a 50 swing song, like yeah for sure, 100%.

Speaker 2:

That's a great way to describe it, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I just, I just love that.

Speaker 2:

Do you have any pet peeves, Lisa? Things that drive you absolutely at the mall.

Speaker 1:

People who stop in free flow lanes drive me fucking crazy, and people who don't put their shopping carts back drive me crazy, and another.

Speaker 1:

Another pet peeve is definitely when people and I feel like everybody probably would consider this one to be a pet peeve, but it's when people try to because I I I thought for years that I like to have control of things because I was a single parent and it was easier if it was, if I knew everything that was going on and was in control of all of it. And then when I started managing my own career instead of like when I put my agency and everything a couple years ago, I realized no, I'm just a control freak and have a hard time relinquishing control. I don't mind when people ask or offer to help, but it really drives me crazy when people just do it Because I have like a system and because of ADHD and stuff, so like there's certain things I do where I have a system and if you get into there now, you just throw my whole system up and now I'm now I'm going to start panicking, and so that kind of drives me nuts when people think they're being helpful, but they're really like crossing the boundary right. That's the other thing. Yeah, because people get weird when you set a boundary. Yeah, they do.

Speaker 2:

Right and they're like. Like they're like I don't understand what. Like. What is this? No, like back in the day we used to have this thing called like conversation and we would have a discussion. We'd have an argument. It could even break out into a fistfight. Now you don't get to just fucking say something to me and I just sit there like a fucking retard and I just take what you say. I'm sorry, I didn't grow up in that generation.

Speaker 1:

And I'm yeah, we don't. I'm not like I, because a lot of women will ask me about like, how I get to be the way I am where. I'm just like you know, like pushing back on people or being you know. Somebody said I'm just like, fuck off. You know, like because I'm not, because people go. Oh, that's your answer. That's intelligent, it's like. It's not that I can't formulate an intelligent rebuttal, it's that I'm fucking tired of doing this. Yeah, so fuck off. It's like.

Speaker 1:

I'm at the point now where I don't, I don't, I'm not, I'm not going to sit here and waste energy on you, I'm just going to tell you to go fuck yourself. And so people say how do you get to that point? And I said you get. You get there when you realize, when you, when you get to the point where you just you've had enough, you start pushing back a little bit here and there and then you realize, wait a second, the world didn't end. I didn't lose my job, I didn't. This didn't happen. This didn't happen. I thought all these bad things would happen if I asserted myself and stop for myself. And then you keep doing it, and then it gets more and more and more to the point where you're like no, this is why I am, as a person.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it flows. I feel like your world flows, opposed to this whole push and pull. It's like react, react, react react Well, that's it right.

Speaker 1:

Like again with the response of fuck off. When people say, well, it's not a very intelligent response or very work on. My favorite is when they're like that's not very professional. I'm like I tell dick jokes for money. I don't know what level of professionalism you're expecting, but the thing is like, yeah, you get to that point and instead of me wasting time over here and creating more fucking stress and fuck off is a great sentence. Yeah, you know, we're done here now.

Speaker 2:

Like and you're shutting me off with all your bullshit anyway. So I'm going to shut you down and fuck off right now. We're done. What are you going to say to that?

Speaker 1:

Right, we're done now. So I just think, yeah, and it's definitely, I'd say a good 85 percent. Well, no, I'd say 100 percent of the preventable drama in my life is gone. Anything else that's here is the normal stuff that everybody has to deal with all the time. But yeah, I just don't.

Speaker 1:

I don't play that game anymore and you know, and I don't fuck around with boundaries either. So like if I'm telling someone this is the situation, and then they're like well, I want the situation to be this and I'm like back over, this is the situation. And I've had that happen with again, bookers or venues where we hadn't agreement. This is what it was. And then they demanded more, they demanded extra, or you know, they were shitty to me for whatever reason, because they were expected something different or whatever. And then I'd go don't worry about it, it'll never happen again. And when I say it'll never happen again, that's to shut them down, be like, ok, she's, she's acknowledged, it'll never happen again. It'll never happen again because I will never work with you again.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I filled your club, we sold, we sold it out. They're selling booze and food and overfist and all that. But that's the last time I'll come in here, I'll find another venue that's not going to do this to me or not treat me badly or at least respect the terms of the agreement, right? Which is basically what fucking boundaries are. They're just terms and clauses, and you know, and it could be, could be, you know something real simple, something real big, but people should respect them, and I'm fortunate to be in a position in life where, when people don't, I just I cut them off completely.

Speaker 2:

I am that black and white too. Yeah, because I get so black and white in it it's like well, it's really not because I feel like we played this dance for a while, and now you want to continue the dance, and I put it is black and white. It is, though, because it's like, don't do this thing, oh, you just did the thing I told you not to do. Yeah, so for me sometimes it's sometimes the things in fucking writing.

Speaker 1:

Do you know what I mean? Like so I'm like no, you, you don't respect any of this. This is not professional, so we're not going to do this again.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I agree, I'd like to, I agree, I love it. I love that attitude. I so want more people to have this attitude. I feel like we're just we're hurting kittens right Like I went into the store the other day and my previous career was a massage therapist years ago, like 17 years ago so I was like all into like raking and energy work and.

Speaker 2:

I still am. But I went into a store like that and I was like, oh my, these they're like beaten kittens. I said to my husband I have to get out of here and he's like, why did I go? Because the teller, all the workers, they're like beating kittens.

Speaker 1:

I can't handle it.

Speaker 2:

I there's, there's nothing, there's no backbone here. They're like no, I wanted to kill you. Please don't say hi to me like that. It's like I'm getting an aneurysm just by you speaking to me. It just it makes me nauseous because I just want to shake them and be like like what the fuck's that? Like, just feel like hi, you don't have to selling a guy but don't sell.

Speaker 1:

I think. I think for, like people in stores, I think they're just because, just from what I've seen as a comic people came out of the pandemic very different. It's weird and not good. No, very entitled, very demanding, very rude, very just ignorant and I think, like a lot of the retail people and people you see in stores are just like look, I don't, you could stab me probably. I don't want to say anything, so they're just scared. Yeah, they're so scared now because people are legitimately fucking crazy. They are.

Speaker 2:

And I've been really noticing a lot of the entitlement. It's like oh, that's interesting thing that you want to go and do and you think that you should do that and I should help you with that. Like I don't want to like these little shits.

Speaker 1:

They're so entitled, I don't even yeah, and it's, it's like, and it blows my mind because it's like every possible demographic. Yeah, it's just shitty right now.

Speaker 2:

I know Because people are like oh, it's young people, I go no, no, no, it's not.

Speaker 1:

I've had more issues with fucking middle aged dudes and older. Now the Gen X is better, but like the boomer dudes, holy fuck, holy fuck, like it's insane right. And so I'm like no, I get it, because I've experienced it, like I've been at shows where you know people get shitty. I've had crazy stuff happen. I've been assaulted twice on stage.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, it's since the pandemic. Before the pandemic they just yell shit or maybe maybe throw something at the stage. But now they're getting really out of hand and I've even had to put into my contracts for private gigs because even companies are not reeling their people in. So I have to put into the contract, like if somebody's being aggressive or, you know, incredibly disruptive, I reserve the right to end the show. So even though you've paid me X amount of dollars to perform for an hour, if 20 minutes in Jeff in shipping receiving is giving me a hard time and really being a dickhead, I'm going to. I'm not going to just walk off stage, we're going to go. All right, folks, that's my time. Thank you, have a good night. And that's it. Because Jeff breached the contract, so you couldn't control jet, so I had to do what I did on my end, which is stated in the contract.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I don't understand it, like you never used to do it. What is it Like? I just I don't understand what's happening. It's just so, it's just people being.

Speaker 1:

They're just thinking that they are that fucking important that everything is about them not realizing like it's like anything else, like you get on a plane and you've all paid for a ticket, so you don't have any more rates to anything than the person next to you, but people have it in their mind that they do, and it's the same thing at a show. It's like well, I paid 30 bucks to be here. Well, yes, sir, and so did everybody else in this room, and you're ruining the experience for them. So you got, you have to leave now, you know, and so that's kind of the kind of my my thing now, with with it all, I just I'm like no, I'm done, I don't have patients for this. Get the fuck out.

Speaker 2:

Yep and it's good. So what tours do you have coming up Right now? We have, I have the Maritimes.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm going to Newfoundland for 10 days with my husband. I'm just doing a couple of shows, but it's mostly vacation. But doing the Maritimes in September, Ontario, Newfoundland, the Arctic, again in October and then doing in November we're doing, yeah, November is Newfoundland and Alberta and BC. So, yeah, back back home for December and then I usually take a little bit of time off most of December and then probably like half of January ish, and then I'm back on the road again. Well, you'll have to keep us posted for a week and come and see your show.

Speaker 2:

I love it. Oh yeah, Lisa Baker comedycom All of my tour dates are listed under shows.

Speaker 1:

And yeah, it's kind of nuts, right now there's like 40 of them or something there. But yeah, what about? Where can? We stalk you on social media oh everywhere Facebook, instagram, tiktok platform, formerly known as Twitter. You know what else going on there. But yeah, no, but it's at Lisa Baker comedy on every, every platform. Lisa Baker comedy. You'll find me Sweet. We went from a bird to a fucking axe.

Speaker 2:

I'm like what happened on, like my app was. I'm like what's this axe? And I went on. It's like I know my app changed.

Speaker 1:

I was like fuck in Elon Musk. What a tool Like holy shit.

Speaker 2:

Right Last song oh.

Speaker 1:

Casey Moore is brand new. Hack them up, he's waiting. Last night, well, someone sold his hat and the eyes of Saturday after flight. I had a hat. Oh, I had a hat by Shani. So Shani is a Newfoundland based band and that gentleman you hear on vocals there is Chris Andrews, and Chris Andrews is an incredible musician, incredible artist, but also a very lovely man and I got the opportunity to meet him a few years ago.

Speaker 1:

I remember I was fangirling so hard I was. It was actually I was doing a show 900 seats, old theater show with a body of mine and Chris is in the wings and I get to meet him for the first time and I'm doing this big show. But I'm like, oh my God, chris Andrews is like right there, but I just love his voice and I love their music and I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, my God, you know the playlistтов. I'm like, I'm like, hey, I'm like, alright, you know, I think. I'm like, I think I was one of theestone. I'm like, I'm like, oh, I'm like, you know, that's just. I'm like I got it. I got it. Actually, I made a comeback and recently I kontaku with that song called Dope Clown was so cool.

Speaker 1:

Special prop Wipe the Faberah. That doesn't mean in a song we're not playing with nothing in our lives. You know, hones, wipe the Dope Clown was the cool song in which we outside before I came here home and over and we went early to. I was shooting at home, right mesan cat no-transcript. But that song is just like.

Speaker 1:

If you play it every Newfoundlander will sing it. My kids love it and it's just a fun song, right, you know, the show goes to Murphy's wake with his new hat, the hat goes missing and a big old fight breaks out. It's a brawl and it's just hilarious. But it's such a fun song and if you ever get the opportunity to see like Doreen Harvey or Shani live, it is quite or same. With the descendants, irish descendants it's quite an experience and it's just this. Even if it's not your style of music or it's not something you're familiar with, you can't help but just getting caught up in it all, like it's just crazy, right, it's like everybody's just smacking, smacking the tables, stamping their feet. So it's just one of those great happy drinking songs that I guess Newfoundland is known for.

Speaker 2:

I love it. Thank you so much, lisa, for joining us today on Music Junkies. What a blast, like I know. Thanks for having me. Yeah, this was fun. Yeah, I love it. I want to have you back on the show because this is so much fun and I think we could dive deep into a lot of other things as well, so I so appreciate you Anytime.

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Maintaining Boundaries and Asserting Control
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