Laugh or Gasp: The Misanthropic Misadventures of an Allergy-Free Rabble-Rouser with ( Deadair ) Dennis Life

Ever wondered what the life of a music junkie, a sports fan, a comedian, a writer, and a dating app wizard rolled into one would be like? Then, meet Deadair Dennis the man who dons all these hats with a style that's uniquely his. From his love for Fishbone and Elvis Costello to his adventures in the Punk Rock Bowling festival and his high school powder puff football exploits, Dennis takes us on an entertaining ride through his life, colored by his passion for music, comedy, and writing.

As we steer the conversation towards Dennis's career journey, he gives us a vivid account of his experience with meeting celebrities, like  John Feldmann from  Goldfinger and the stories that unfolded. We navigate through his experiences as a writer for Dig Boston, his unique approach to conducting interviews, his interaction with the music industry, and the challenges he faced in his financial journey. Dennis's story is not just about the glitz and glamour of the music industry but also about perseverance, taking risks, and making it work against all odds.

But the journey doesn't end there! Dennis also shares his amusing experiences with dating apps and how he navigates the dating world. He wraps up by sharing his philosophy of chasing dreams without waiting for permission, a mantra that has guided him through his life. With tales of punk rock concerts, an uncanny resemblance to Elvis Costello, and a love for podcasting, this episode is a wild ride through Dennis's captivating life.

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Speaker 1: 0:01

Welcome everyone to Music Junkies, a podcast about people sharing extraordinary stories about how music has impacted their lives.

Speaker 2: 0:18

Welcome everyone to Music Junkies. I'm your host and our guest today is comedian, actor, writer, podcaster. Has been heard on radio stations throughout the country, including SiriusXM. He's been featured on comedy festivals throughout the country. I love that you have a big comedy network podcast called what Do you Really Do, which is a good, good, good, good thing. And you're funny, you're loud and you're you know you have no allergies since 1981, so that's a really good thing, right?

Speaker 1: 0:50

So please don't forget to air it. That's my only positive attribute and I just totally, by the way, the professional performer podcast just stepped over all my own. My own name. Hi everybody, I'm Dead Air Dennis Mallor, pleasure to meet you. I just talked right over. That's Dead Air. You're going to ask where does the name Dead Air come from? It is not my real name. It is a nickname given to me in the radio industry that I worked for many years. Dead Air means silence and it is an ironic nickname because I never stop talking.

Speaker 2: 1:22

I love it. So, Dennis, what was your experience putting your playlist for me together today?

Speaker 1: 1:28

The playlist was was shrinking it down to just the ones that are the most significant. Like you asked for 10, I wrote 25 different songs at Artis and I'm like, oh, these are all important to me. I have also I write everything on post-it notes. I have notebooks for other things but, like so much of my life is written on post-it notes that I went through three post-it notes, back and front and back. I write very big to write this list together. But I had to think of, like, what are a significant to me? Like what bands are significant to me, what bands mean the most to me that helped shake me to the person I am today, and which ones also have a good story. Cause there's people that, like sublime, their music shaped me in my point of view, but I have no stories about sublime. The only story I got about sublime is sitting in my bedroom as a teenager and realizing when I hear what I got, I was like, oh, I know this band. They wrote date rape, oh cool.

Speaker 2: 2:25

Well, we're going to dive right into your playlist right now. We're going to start with a fishbone song. You ready? Oh yeah, party at ground zero or originally called pink vapor stew.

Speaker 1: 2:47

Oh yeah, it's a. I love fishbone. Like I remember the first time I saw a fishbone like her. Like I remember seeing like the logo and shirts in the 80s and 90s and knew nothing about it. And then there was a TV show called Viva Variety, you may. It was hosted by Thomas Lennon, michael Ian Black and her name is I'm scared is escape right now, but she is basically it's the people from the state, but also more people known better as Reno 911. Oh, okay, so in between their original MTV sketch go show the state and then Reno 911, they had this show called Viva Variety on Comedy Central where Thomas Lennon and Katie McKinney that's it, Kathy McKinney and Michael Ian Black played these weird like Eastern Northern being entertainer characters and it was a variety show of like comedy sketches and like sit and then they had music performances and fishbone played and I was.

Speaker 1: 3:48

I, I Dr Mad vibes, my Angela Moore, the lead Sarah, comes out and just playing a theremin in the middle, like at the beginning, it opens up with like a theremin and keyboards and it's just a whole group of black guys playing this funky, crazy, insane punk, ska, soul music mixed together and I literally looked at it and went oh my God, what is this and how do I find more of it?

Speaker 1: 4:11

And when I got to see them live for the first time, they did not disappoint. It was 20 years later. I'm going into the 930 club, their lead singer, angelo Moore, who is a born a Jehovah's Witness, turned Rostafarian, playing around this nightclub with a bullhorn, reciting bohemian poetry, with a, with pants, no shirt and just suspenders and a big, huge green offset mad hat or top hat, walk around, just scream into a megaphone in the middle of the audience and everyone's loving it. And the bass player, norwood, just reaches over there and Mike goes Angela, we're all tuned up, are you ready to do this? And he jumps on stage and they kick in and I was like this is a religious experience, fishbone, just a mixture of music that does not go together, by guys that didn't know what they wanted to even be and they mashed all this stuff up and every. Every song's a masterpiece and every song's insane and crazy and just full of energy.

Speaker 2: 5:09

Yeah, I actually just seen them in May at the punk rock bowling festival. Oh, you went to punk rock bowling.

Speaker 1: 5:15

Oh, I've been dying to go to punk rock ball. Was it Vegas again this year, right?

Speaker 2: 5:18

It was. Yeah, it was like bad religion. Rancid sloppy seconds me first in the Gimmie Gimmies, like it was so good. But Fishbone was there too.

Speaker 1: 5:29

Yeah, fishbone and like they are that midpoint between like second wave ska and third wave ska. They're kind of what them and the Boston's are like the bands that bridged those two genres of like that English second wave ska music and the influence of like distorted guitars into punk rock, reggae and pop punk and stuff like that, and they bridge that gap. Those Fishbone and Boston's were like the only two American bands on opposite ends of the coast of America doing ska music mixed with punk influences or doing punk music mixed with style influences, who knows?

Speaker 1: 6:02

But, and they're just so mind blowing, and also on top of everything, political, because how could they not be?

Speaker 2: 6:08

Yeah, how can they not be? Do you play?

Speaker 1: 6:11

There's a great documentary that. There's a great documentary called Everyday Sunsign about their formation. I think you can find out on Hulu at least that's where I watched it a couple years ago and just like learning what the where the low income streets that they came from and how they met each other and gathered. It's absolutely one for a documentary about a wonderful band.

Speaker 2: 6:31

Do you play any musical instruments?

Speaker 1: 6:33

I used to play the drums and I gave that up when I moved to Boston 10 years ago because I didn't want to bring them up here.

Speaker 2: 6:38

Yeah, and I didn't want my mother to have to deal with them, because they were in the garage. What's your first song? You learned to play on the drums.

Speaker 1: 6:46

She by Green Day.

Speaker 2: 6:47

No way really.

Speaker 1: 6:49

Yeah, interesting, but now I play ukulele. Do you really, do you have it there? Can you play us a little tune that one's not tuned and it's. I have ukuleles everywhere and no, I'm not going to play. The ukulele is still a pandemic hobby. This is weird. I'm talking about not wanting to play my ukulele because, let's be honest, it makes me nervous to play in front of people. However, my day job now is I am a tour guide for Boston Duck Tours and the character I picked is a ukulele punk rocker.

Speaker 1: 7:23

because I wanted to create a, because we have to do these, these tours in a character a serial character and I picked a character that is literally my own personal self and I play every day for 35 people, five times a day. But that's me play honestly, earnestly, in front of people. No, that's, that's not a step I'm comfortable doing. Yet I'll pretend bad in front of 35 people and be comfortable with it, but if I got to play something honestly, we may not get there. We'll find out.

Speaker 2: 7:50

I love it.

Speaker 1: 8:02

All right. Next song Superman Goldfinger. Yes, I had to pick the most popular one by them because I wanted people to be like OK, I know what that is Like. It is like I just and, by the way, I just saw them and concerted again the other day with Spring Hill, jack and Big D and the Kids Table, which are New England's gobbins and whatever. Mike Hera, who was the lead singer of and who is the lead singer of MXBX he told banding it. Now he's playing bass for Goldfinger and I don't know what happened, but he is lighting a fire under John Feldman, the lead singers.

Speaker 1: 8:36

Ass and their, their, their live performances have taken to another level. There's so much energy, they're so tight and succinct and I'm going to say my care is not their best out of the bass players they've had. He's far from the best of them. He's an OK, acceptable guy, plays, plays the songs he needs to plays, but somehow him joining the band reignited everything under John Feldman, the lead singer of Goldfinger, and they are so much tighter and fun and great and having them I mean Charlie's back in the band on tour with them again. They put on a new record and it's a it's a good, fun time and I remember the first.

Speaker 1: 9:12

I was going to say first, the only time I met John Feldman, the lead singer from Goldfinger, was in Philadelphia. My buddy's band was playing in Philadelphia. We drove up the night before the crash at my brother's house who lived in Philadelphia, and we go out now. My brother and my best friend at the time were both vegetarians and they decided that we were all going to go to this really good vegan cheese steak place in Philadelphia, which I know. So many oxymorons in one sentence, but that's a lot. We're there and we're talking about how Goldfinger played the night before in Philadelphia and we missed it. They're playing in like New Hampshire or something that night, or Rhode Island. You know that night that we were there and they're going to be in the Baltimore DC area the next night and I was going to miss them because I had something else. So I was literally lamenting on how much like Goldfinger, one of my favorite bands, is right around me ever I'm going and I'm missing all these opportunities to see them.

Speaker 1: 10:12

We sit, order our food and we sit down. My brother and my best friend, ryan Moses, get up and they go to the bathroom and I'm just sitting there in this booth and I look over and there is John Feldman, the lead singer of Goldfinger, sitting right next to the counter, on arms distance away from me, where we were just standing ordering. He was literally standing behind us as we ordered our food and I'm like there's nobody around to confirm that this story happened. What's going on? So I get up, I went to finish his orders and he starts to turn around. I was like, excuse me, hi, are you John Feldman from Goldfinger? Yeah, he goes.

Speaker 1: 10:49

Yeah, man, I was like dude, I do the two hand of shake and I grab his hand. I was like man, dude, my name's Dennis. I'm a huge fan of yours. You allowed your music got me through rough times like in high school just listening to my bedroom. And, man, I just want to say, like your first two records were so great and everything I love, everything you guys do.

Speaker 1: 11:03

And I was just lamenting about how I'm not going to catch your concerts because last night you were here and I'm in DC, this, that and whatever. And I'm just shaking his hand and he goes oh cool, thanks, man, and I just go, dude, dude. And I'm still double hand, shaking him with both hands, and now I'm out of the loss words, just staring at him and I realized this and I'm like, oh God, I'm sorry, I'm being weird. He's like, nah, it's cool, dude, really glad you came here. They have really good vegan food because he is a huge animal rights activist. And I was like, yeah, but I got the meeting. And I just watched his face distraught because, oh, all right, I was like I'm going to go back and sit down now. Nice meeting you, sir.

Speaker 1: 11:43

We sit down and he goes to sit down and he's in the booth right behind us. So now I can't even tell anybody. This interaction just happened. So I get up and I run to the bathroom and I catch my brother and my friend Ryan as they're coming out. I was like, guys, listen, john phoned him from Goldfinger, sitting right by us.

Speaker 1: 12:00

I'm like, no, he's not. Yes, he is. Look Like a three stooge's movie. We just pop our heads over the wall, just one on top of the edge, and we're like it is. So we go and we sit down with all that cool. We're just whatever. We're eavesdropping on his conversations, arguing like the woman that he was with at the time. And now fast forward, however many years it's been. They put out a record and there's a song on there called the Knife and the lyric is please put the knife away from my neck. Like it's a song about him basically being attacked by his wife, girlfriend, whoever the person is, or it's not even about him, but it sounds like it's about a woman attacking him with a knife and me and my best friend Ryan theorized that song might be written about the woman that was sitting in the booth behind us and we could have helped John Felden out of this and he could have never had to write that song.

Speaker 2: 12:56

So you brought up high school. What were you like in high school?

Speaker 1: 12:59

Everything you see now, hyper covered in plaid, running around yelling songlers, irrational song lyrics and TV quotes at people.

Speaker 2: 13:09

Did you get any trouble in high school? Like what's the baddest thing you ever did.

Speaker 1: 13:14

The biggest trouble I got into is when you were growing up was there a thing called powder puff football? No, powder puff football a lot of high schools. I don't think it's a thing anymore because woke ism. But powder puff football is when the girls play, the women play flag football and the guys cheer lead and I pulled a Braveheart slash red hot chili peppers as we were all dressed as cheerleaders in skirts and whatnot and I lifted. We were doing whatever doing J-U-N-I-O-R-S, and I do this big leapfrog over a six foot tall classmate and then throw my skirt up to or to reveal just three pairs of socks. Do you want my feet? And you figure out where the other one was. That is awesome. And I got suspended. You got suspended.

Speaker 2: 14:10

Whoa, what's happening here and then? So what did they do for suspension? Just like couple days? Oh, you're frozen. What's happening here? You're frozen, dennis. All kind of gritty.

Speaker 1: 14:41

Okay, you're back now.

Speaker 2: 14:42

That was weird.

Speaker 1: 14:44

I've never had that happen before yeah, you froze on my end, and then, but I could hear you, and then audio went silent, so I don't know which one of us froze or if it was just a whole zoom issue, but word, what was the last thing that you heard me say?

Speaker 2: 15:00

That you lifted your skirt and you had three socks on, two on your feet.

Speaker 1: 15:06

So yeah, I've got the script. Now here's the biggest, like the most disappointing point is no one got a picture. I'm 17 years old. 17 years old. Nobody wants to take a picture of that. But can you imagine being memorialized in your yearbook where you just have a lifting your skirt, a big smile and a giant sensor bar across your waist? Now that is a pure wonderful picture for the yearbook.

Speaker 2: 15:33

I love it. So you're a jokester comedian. Yes, yes. What was the most challenging thing for you in high school?

Speaker 1: 15:42

Challenging thing for me in high school must have been what I would decided what I wanted to be when I got older. I always joke especially now when I work with kids groups doing tour guides if I always ask kids what do you want to be when you grow up? This, that, oh, do you want to know what I wanted to be when I was your age? When I grew up, I wanted to be taller. Hope it works out for you better than it did me. Like, just, this is a dumb little joke about it. But here's the thing was, I didn't know what I really want. I mean, I wanted to do everything. That was the problem. I wanted to be an engineer, I wanted to build things, I wanted to be a comedian, I wanted to be a rock star, I wanted to be an actor, I wanted to be an airplane jet fighter pilot, you know, and all these things, and couldn't narrow something down. You know, I wanted to work like I grew. I graduated in 99. So we were really at this cusp where technology was the emerging thing and I'm kind of an early adopter and always has happened. So it was.

Speaker 1: 16:33

For me, foresight was very beneficial because I could see that, oh, computers are going to be an important thing in the world so I want to be involved with computers. But it was really hard to get involved with computers when you're a poor white kid from Baltimore, Baltimore County. You know like took money to get into those things and there was no real way to get into that stuff even in schools. You know the computer capacity of things was very low and limited. But I know I wanted to be an entertainer and I knew how much work entertainment took to get into and you need a backup plan and you need financial supporters which, growing up in a low income household in Baltimore County that wasn't. There was no financial backing. You know my father's getting old and sick. He had heart attacks. He ended up retiring early, you know, because of health issues and we went from a two multiple income family between my father and mother working multiple jobs to working one job and my mother trying to do, like Ava and all these other dumb little you know, pyramid scheme scans to make money.

Speaker 1: 17:36

I went into working when I was a, you know, a sophomore in high school because we needed money and just realizing that to do the things I want to do they take money but we don't have that. So, trying to figure these things out and like the emergence of new technology, but not having the availability to do that, so it was like what do I want to do? Well, I want to be in entertainment. Well, that takes money, All right, so what's the job that I'm going to have while I work on the entertainment thing? Oh, engineering, oh construction, All these other things that had the benefit of here is a clear path to get from point A to B in my life would have been much more beneficial than trying to figure out how to do all these other things while wanting to do this thing here.

Speaker 2: 18:23

Yeah, and when did you start getting into kind of the broadcast writer role? Like, was it early on, where you always writing, where you always center of attention, and you just kind of grew into that role and writing.

Speaker 1: 18:40

Calling myself a writer is such a stretch.

Speaker 2: 18:45

I write on posted notes. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1: 18:47

Yeah, no, I write for a newspaper now. I do interviews for it. For a newspaper, dig Boston. I do every alternative weekly newspaper.

Speaker 2: 18:57

Is it like fast forward back in the day?

Speaker 1: 19:00

Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 1: 19:01

Like on a super smaller schedule and I do comedian interviews and so calling me a writer, here's how my this is my interview process. I record a conversation with a friend, I have an AI, transcribe it, I give it to my editor, he spell checks it and then they print it and then they send me a check and I'm stealing from a non-profit newspaper. Really is what it is. But I mean, I was always into the interview business, like when I was a kid, radio was the world and I wanted to be a radio broadcast because it brought all my loves together brought music, comedy, acting interviews, celebrities it brought all this stuff together in one place and that's what I wanted to do. So listening to radio interviews like my favorite jocks Elliott in the morning, gina Crash, scott Allen listen to these guys at WHFS and DC 101 and 98 Rock, kirk, mark and Lopez, mickey Cuchella, all these amazing Baltimore DC area radio, I mean even the grease man, like there's some entertainment value from the grease man. For those who are old school DC radio people know who the grease man is and if you do, I'm sorry you had to listen to him, but there's things to be benefited from him on that.

Speaker 1: 20:22

But like in the junkies and Chad Oden Dukes, and like all these other amazing radio talent that I got to listen to growing up, did great interviews. They were dynamic on the air, you know, and they were great and wonderful. I wanted to be those. So that's where everything really started was trying to figure out how to do interviews. I'm the classic example of a kid with a boombox stereo recording songs off the radio and then doing my own talk ups over top of them, or creating my own little shows and, and you know, plays and doing these interviews. Now that it was ever written down back in the day I didn't write things, you know by recorded so much stuff that is also disappeared in the world to digital audio.

Speaker 2: 21:05

I would love to get back all my mixtapes that I made like that. That would be like such a fun experience going through that. That'd be awesome.

Speaker 1: 21:13

Oh, I was doing my college in 2000, was doing streaming radio when nobody could stream radio. Like we were crazy. We were in a medium like no one in 2000s. Computers could handle streaming audio. No one could listen to streaming music through dial up Like what were we doing. There are so many interviews with bands that are probably awful and cringy, but also so many of those interviews that were good.

Speaker 2: 21:38

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 21:39

I used my college as a press pass to get into you know warp tour and into the WHFS uh sees yearly outdoor concert festival thing, the HF festival, and get to interview all these amazing alternative rock bands back in the day and record them all onto like cassette tapes or even digital audio recorders, which is like I was just saying this the other day. I probably somewhere in a box have my old zip discs of recording of interviews and stuff which I had to keep re-recording over because I can only afford to buy two zip discs and they only hold 55 minutes of audio and so I kept re-recording and all these things that just went out to work Like how much of this audio I uploaded and put on my MySpace site in the early 2000s, for I was like.

Speaker 1: 22:22

Hey, go to my MySpace and listen to my interview with so and so, and you couldn't listen to it then on the internet. But all these things, law we keep talking about, oh, everything's on the internet forever. Yeah Well, good luck trying to find a lot of my old stuff on the internet. I would love if you guys found some of my old stuff that got put on the streaming internet back in the early 2000s.

Speaker 2: 22:41

Right, I love it. Cheers awesome.

Speaker 1: 22:54

You're not sharing audio radio radio.

Speaker 1: 22:59

I'm assuming it's radio radio by Elvis Costello. You weren't. Yes, elvis Costello. Elvis Costello is an artist I found out late in life because I Didn't know who he was. I'm surprising. He's one of my favorite artists now and I've seen him at concert a bunch of times and he's amazing. He's 60 some years old, plays guitar and sings the entire time throughout his entire performances. And meanwhile this blondies the same age in their guitar player just sits on a stool and just Plays along. And Debbie Harry does not have it anymore. Her voice is not like a couple years ago when they made blondie, made their return. Debbie Harry had it. She was great, she was wonderful. She doesn't got it now she does an old woman shimmy on stage.

Speaker 1: 23:42

But Elvis Costello the way I discovered him is my very first job as a kid at 15 was working selling Italian ice and Lemonade and iced tea at Oriole Park at Candlemy Yards. Quit that job because I was shaking up a lemonade for a person and a foul ball went up and I'm being gregarious and go. She's like hey, lemonade here, get your lemonade. Shaking up this lemonade, and guy reaches over three people and snatches a foul ball next to my head and Sits back down and drinks his beard and he ends pillow drop off. Yeah, I'm not gonna. This is a hazard to my. I was going to be on ESPN's not top 10 for a concussion. If I survived it, I need to got it.

Speaker 1: 24:24

So I get a job working in an Italian pastry shop in little Italy in Baltimore. First day I'm working there was July 4th. Actually, first day they hired me was the bus table in July 4th. One of the other bus boys standing there, guy my age but like just taller, cooler guy named Shawnee, looks me. He goes. You know who you look like. I'm like hey, elvis Costello, I don't know who that is.

Speaker 1: 24:45

He goes you don't know Elvis Costello, like prototype Guido's Throughout this entire building like they were the sopranos before the sopranos. But that's how they all talked, it's how they all acted. And he goes oh, this kid over here does not know who Elvis Costello is, what. Oh, how does he not know Elvis Costello? Look at him, he looks just like him and I don't know who. This was pre-internet 1999, 19 if I'm 16. It was 1997, right Years later, first time I ever see Elvis Costello was one of the Austin Powers movies coming out and there's a scene in that movie where they have a musical performance and he introduces ladies, a gentleman, bert, back, I can know, let's go, fellow.

Speaker 1: 25:27

And they pan the camera over and it's these two soft rock musicians playing a soft rock song and Elvis Costello this time was very overweight, big, huge gap in a Steve still has the gap in the Steve and I was like, oh, I don't look like this big fat guy. Look, what the hell is this? So I go back and listen to his music. I find his SNL performance when he was back in the 70s a young dude. We had the same thick horn rim glasses. We had similar, you know, poofy curl hair and stuff like that. Oh yeah, narrow face in sucking cheeks. When I was younger and thinner, yeah, okay, I do look like young Elvis Costello. I don't look like old bearded gap to fat Elvis Costello. But I then fell in love with his old music and he's so amazing and talented and Probably has more Grammys than anyone else. And he's amazing and I wish I would have taken that as the compliment as it that it was meant to be at the time, instead of going. I don't know who that guy is.

Speaker 2: 26:22

What was your worst job you ever had?

Speaker 1: 26:26

Working sound for a traveling dance company.

Speaker 2: 26:29

Oh.

Speaker 1: 26:30

Could have been a cool job, except the people there. I I'm very sick, so I'm very sensitive to classes, bullshit, where, oh, you don't belong at this lunch table. Oh, you are this, you are that, and Me, a professional sound guy for my entire life, you know, recorded music for Michelle Branch, craig morning, natasha beddingfield like big-time artists, recorded live concert. I've recorded Cheryl Crowe's live concert. Okay, I got a lot of big deals under my belt, but apparently a bunch of dancers who have never worked audio Think they could tell me about what, how to, how to do audio.

Speaker 1: 27:07

Whatever, that's fine, I'm gonna let it be. But if you're gonna note me To try and make me look like I'm gonna continue not do my job, yeah, you're gonna keep telling me every every ten seconds bring up the volume, turn the volume down, do this, do that and your backstage you don't know what's going on. I'm gonna mention, gonna tell you, let me do my job and it really just stemmed down to. This was an entire company built by people who were dancers. I was one of two people that were not ever in the dance industry and they Ostracized me and that other guy and the other people too that didn't fit into their lunch table Demographic of people that we want to be around in this company and we want to hang around have fun with you know, first day we doing an event, I walk past a group I'm like, hey, good morning everybody. And then they say nothing.

Speaker 2: 27:52

No response but you're working with them.

Speaker 1: 27:54

What the hell we have to work together. We have to spend four days in the hotels and convention centers together on the road. Grow up, that's right, so I get thrown of course I get fired from the company because I wasn't the right fit, and of course by right fit Means I. They don't want me around because I don't fit the demographic of people. They want to be hanging around.

Speaker 2: 28:17

That's fucking unreal.

Speaker 1: 28:19

I hate people like that.

Speaker 2: 28:21

I do not. I'm the same way. I cannot handle that kind of stuff. I don't care how much money you have, I don't care what you do for a job or humans, and if you're a fucking dick, you're a fucking dick, period.

Speaker 1: 28:30

Yeah, I mean, I don't need that. Mean girls, both high school bullsh**t. You know I'm doing everything to be nice and polite to you. Trust me, you don't fit my demographic of people. I'm not gonna ostracize you. Yeah, I'm gonna buy you guys coffees in the morning because I'm gonna do that to my friends and I'm gonna do that to other people. We're stuck in a situation Together where we all have to work and figure this this out. You know I'm gonna be as good nice to you as I would to be my best friends if I was working inside them. Because you know what? I don't want to be miserable Working. I don't want to come here and like, oh, here comes so and so again rolling my eyes having to do that shit.

Speaker 1: 29:05

No, I don't want, I want to be able to live in harmony, harmonious harmony. Harmony is how many there we go for Talking about too many words of the same meaning stacked and stacked, and stacked on top of each other.

Speaker 2: 29:18

Well, I'm impressed that you have this band on your playlist. Not one person in, I'd say, probably 120 interviews, if not more. I've did have even brought up this band and I love this fact. I love the dead milk man. Punk rocker on I.

Speaker 1: 29:46

Like like three of their songs I don't. I don't love them, but they have Like. Listening to bitching Camaro, listening to punk rock girl, just brings you back to being a teenage kid in my, in my bedroom, listening to WHFS Driving around. When I finally got a car driving around in the middle you have to noon listening to the noon flashback with Bobby wall and just them playing obscure Alternative Rockets, just like punk rock girl and bitching Camaro. And I even remember meeting my brother who was living in Philly, became friends with the lead singer of dead milk man and I was hanging out with him one one weekend up there in Philly and he introduced me to him and I was like not impressed and I'm like I wanted this guy to be a punk rock icon but he was very weird and awkward and gangly and gave me like a A dead fish handshake and he was playing in a different band and he wasn't even the front man of, and it was just weird.

Speaker 1: 30:46

That is weird the dead milk man. I mean, yeah, like they reference it, like my tinder bio references that song, like I would say like if they play California dream, and will you get, if we asked for a Beast Boy song and they play California dreaming, will you get on the table and scream on such a winter's day with me and a woman actually met some me? She's like, oh, excuse me, that's the mama's and the papa's. And then I had to go All right, nerd time. Actually, yes, it is from the mama's and papa's, but the song is referencing the song punk rock girl by the dead milk man and in fact the Beach Boys did a version of that song back in blah blah, blah, blah, which is what he's referring to, the song that played on the jukebox by the dead milk man. Send them like, oh, she's never gonna.

Speaker 2: 31:27

Yeah, that didn't. That didn't get you a date, dennis. No, I did you a date.

Speaker 1: 31:32

I had a man explained to her punk rock music.

Speaker 2: 31:34

Yeah, and she's like swiping left. That was fun, have a good day, so why did?

Speaker 1: 31:39

I message him like so you opened your door to this.

Speaker 2: 31:45

So you're on tinder. Tell me how is tinder going? Tell me not at all tinder Like. Is it still as bad as I think tinder was five, six years ago, or is it even worse?

Speaker 1: 31:58

I mean it's, I mean they're all the same. First off, don't let anybody tell you that in the heterosexual world of dating apps, grindr is a whole different subject. That's because the subjects on griner or a whole different group of people, right? I'm not gonna say anything about grounder. I have no experience with grinder. I'm just assuming grinder is just Two dudes saying to each other what gets guys like me, me too, that's what I'm assuming it is. But when it comes to the other ones, there's tinder and hinge and Whatever, the bumble like, bumble let's. For those who don't know, you know I Tinder is an app where if you know two people who like each other, they match on that app. Apparently. When a man or woman like each other, they match and the man has to send her a dick pic, apparently.

Speaker 2: 32:45

Yes, that's how. I don't know like that's, I don't think the rules.

Speaker 1: 32:49

It's awful, it's terrible. Don't worry though. It is awful, it is terrible right, but there's a feminist version out there called bumble. And we what bumble is? It's basically same as tinder, except when a man Will then match that man can't message that woman till she first sends him a dick pic. So yeah, it's fair.

Speaker 1: 33:09

Yeah, it's all the same. They're all pits of of Lowest common denominator bullshit, like men are awful, women are awful. Nobody knows how they use these things. We're all on them because we're supposed to be on them, but nobody's actually. I mean for those who find love and on those great, you're the rare exception. You know everyone talks to him as oh, they're the hookup app. You open the app, then you find somebody who don't fuck. No, that is not how life works. That's what we keep saying they are, but nobody's using them for those things. Some people. Yeah, women, you have Whatever you want, you, you, it's the world's your oyster on day.

Speaker 2: 33:44

So much dick on there.

Speaker 1: 33:45

Yeah, but you're in control of Relationships, right, like I'm, the one has to impress you. Trust me, no woman needs to impress me. You know how you impress me Smile, that's basically it. Like having a pulse is basically, for the most part, you know, yeah, and we're all just shallow, disgusting, awful garbage things, looking for whatever is the best of this, and it's dopamine hits.

Speaker 2: 34:09

Yeah, I'm gonna be on that one you have on your phone. Absolutely none. No, you've never said one.

Speaker 1: 34:15

Oh, I've said one, but I have none on my phone. Actually, the only one I ever said was Pre iPhone.

Speaker 2: 34:24

Okay.

Speaker 1: 34:25

I had a Sony Ericsson Walkman phone Wow was a phone that was a music player.

Speaker 1: 34:32

I was dating a woman and this woman's. You know we're touching back and forth. Might she goes? I'm gonna be thinking about you when I masturbate tonight. So I take a picture of my cock I sent her and go like here here's material, material for you. And then she sends the most embarrassing reply that I could ever receive, which was she goes. Unless it's sitting next to a two liter coke bottle. I can't judge how big that is. I'm like if you're judging it gets a two liter bottle honey, you're gonna be very disappointed.

Speaker 2: 35:01

What is the process of getting ready to send a dick pic I?

Speaker 1: 35:08

Mean it's if you're talking to people who send them probably no process. That's the problem is they're just like okay, we don't look like.

Speaker 2: 35:15

Right now we're just sending this like don't you want it to like? Look nice.

Speaker 1: 35:21

I mean I don't know if people are dressing them up in costumes or putting them on iPads and putting beach photos behind them. So it's like, hey look, here's my dick at the Eiffel Tower, but which also, again, pick better things comparing the size of your dick to gentlemen. I don't know if there's preparation. The photos I've seen of other people's dick pics is. I worked at a hip hop nightclub for seven years in Washington DC. The amount of fucking loser dudes.

Speaker 1: 35:48

I would send dick pics to the women that were hanging out with me in the DJ booth. They would laugh them out every day and they would show it to me. Some dudes have way more confidence in their pieces than they really should and some guys congratulations, you have the appropriate amount of confidence for the appropriate amount of machinery that you have going on between your legs. It varies, apparently. I don't know how people do it. I mean I did it once for a woman that I dated and I deleted it and never needed it ever again, never even thought about sending another one ever since Like that was, I mean again, pre-iPhone.

Speaker 1: 36:21

So what's this? 2004,. You know, 2005 maybe? So it's been 18 years to a woman that wasn't unsolicited, but it wasn't solicited. You know it's kind of in the it's. That gray area was hey, if you're gonna masturbate to me, here's the thing that you should be thinking about it. Right, also to think I've never had a woman send me nudes either. Not, I think about it. I live a very boring life apparently. I mean, I don't know, for me it was get hard. Take a picture which, by the way, 18 years ago my 20s definitely not difficult Like I probably was already erected because she sent me the word masturbate in her in a text. Whoa, you know, I went from six o'clock to 12 very quickly just reading a text message. You know, when you're a 20 year old Viral guy, doesn't take very much to make you go from from six o'clock to midnight.

Speaker 2: 37:13

That's right. All right, I like this theme song. You picked the Pink in the Hill. The Pink in the Hill theme song.

Speaker 1: 37:23

it's not because of this, the TV show, it's because of the band. Now, this is a complicated one. Follow along, kids. Okay, the Weeklik's theme song is done by a band called the game refreshments.

Speaker 1: 37:35

The refreshments is a Arizona area band that I just discovered because of a TV commercial. There was a commercial, a Japanese band you were talking about. There were two Bear performances. There was a commercial for their first album, fizzy, fuzzy, big and Buzzy. I heard when their song Bandito's on the radio. They played a couple of songs in this commercial.

Speaker 1: 37:56

I'm like you know what this looks, interesting stuff. I'm gonna take a chance and I go to the record and tape traders in Dundalk, maryland. I buy their CD, which, by the way, it was also awkward to buy their CD because the cover of the CD has like a nearly naked cartoon, like pin up, kind of like airplane gal on it. So I'm like I'm a 15 year old kid, 16 year old kid, buying this record. That looks me. I'm kind of have this record with a half naked woman on top of it. No, I really like the music. I don't care about the cover at all. Right, like enough kids, teenage kids, my age, who walked past that album and clean up all three. Basically, right, I go home. It is music I've never heard of Maricana. Right, I've never heard before Just amazing music from these guys and I fell in love with them and I never got to see them.

Speaker 1: 38:49

They broke up they're reformed as a band called Roger Klein and the Peacemakers, which I never even knew because, again, internet didn't really exist. Googling things was not a thing, searching for stuff on the internet in the early 2000s you had to be a goddamn sleuth to figure things out. But I found out through. I've never knew another fan of their music my entire life until about probably 10 years ago. Eight years ago. No one else I've ever heard of them. My friends used to in high school would make fun of me for saying hey, what's that band that you keep listening to? Is it Sprite, right? Soda Pop? Is that their name? Ma ma, ma ma.

Speaker 1: 39:25

And I ended up starting really getting deep in their music and finding out about them. And I got to see them for the first time in 20 years, a few years ago after, on a boat cruise. And the reason I picked the King of the Hill theme song is because, hey, that's a song that everyone's gonna know by them. But also I got to see them again last year and they do a raffle ticket and that raffle prize is you get to come on stage and play the bout, the triangle used in the song, when they play the King of the Hill theme song, really, and I won it and I was like, oh no, I don't know if I want.

Speaker 1: 40:02

Like it goes back to the conversation we had at the top of this, where it's like I can get on stage in front of a thousand strangers and tell jokes all day, every day. Never. My heart rate will never raise a beat. Like there is no nerves, there's no butterflies. That's me. You asked me to come play music in front of I'm playing a triangle in front of a bunch of people that also wanted to play the same triangle that I was playing, and somehow I wanted to back out. It was the most nervous I've ever been in my entire life. And I get to go backstage and I meet them and they're playing on stage. It's like when we play this song, come back here, they get me set up and like, dude, just ring the shit out of that. They'll hit it hard as fuck. I'm like I'm re-listening this song because I want to be able to do it right.

Speaker 2: 40:42

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 40:43

It's the most nerve-wracking moment my entire life and I go out there and they're like everybody come out of your ears, dan, it's all right. Here we go Down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And that's the greatest stage moment my entire life was playing with one of my favorite bands in the entire world Playing triangle to their song, to a what? 90 second song, if that you know, and everyone you know. I gave my phone to somebody to film it for me. Everyone's applauding and going crazy and we're doing pictures backstage. So I'm just like guys. This is like the greatest moment of my entire life. I have a signed poster up for them upstairs that I still need to put in a frame and hang on the wall. It'll go right here in the studio and it's just one of the proudest moments I have.

Speaker 1: 41:25

And I like the show King of the Hill. I don't love it. I like it a lot. It's a great show. I would tell everyone if anyone says, hey, should I show? Yes, you should, you know, but I'm never going to watch it ever again. I'm not going to watch it every runs If it's on. If I'm sitting in a room and it comes on, I'm going to watch it.

Speaker 2: 41:40

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 41:40

It's all about that band, roger Klein and the peacemakers. They're like just chill fun having music. Their lead singer, roger Klein, writes these narrative-based, like troubadour-like songs about stories of things that may have happened, things that didn't happen, completely totally fictitious stories. Stories about robbing the mafia or not the mafia but the cartel gangs, and like walking the border, like it's this weird line between like cowboy in Mexicana Criminal music that they write. That's just so refreshing and different and that's what I like. So much of the music I listen to nobody else listens to, not because I'm cool and different, it's because that's what just unfortunately, appeals to me is the different and the unusual, whereas with people that escape that, I dive head deep into that.

Speaker 2: 42:31

Yeah, so tell me a little bit about your podcast. When did it get started? How did you come up with the name? What is it about?

Speaker 1: 42:39

The podcast that I host is called so what Do you Really Do? The podcast where I interview artists and entertainers about their day jobs, talking about the stuff that we have to do during the day to support what we want to do at night. It's available everywhere Podcasts are potted and it's now part of the big comedy network and basically the impetus was 2015. I was hanging out with comedians here in Boston and I was talking we're doing Christmas party, so it was 2014. It was the 2014 Christmas party at Laugh Boston. All comedians hanging out talking to comedians and one of them this guy, casey. I knew he was like a designer, programmer, coder kind of guy and we were talking and I found out that he worked on this really popular Marvel mobile phone game and I'm like, oh, that's interesting, I want to know everything about the video game creation process and we're talking about it at the party and I was like this is what the podcast should be about Talking about our industry.

Speaker 1: 43:34

I have been an industry manager. I work in radio. People always ask me Even if you like the two things that everyone says to me when they find out three things, the three things people always say to me when they find out. I work in radio is one why do you guys play the same songs all the time? Because you idiots keep requesting the same songs every time. That's why. Two oh, you know what, I don't even listen to the radio. All right, cool. And then why are you going to ask? The third question they always ask, which is so you know, do you get to meet celebrities and stuff Like? That's what everyone wants to know? Those three things everyone always says to me Because it's an exciting thing. Whether you don't listen to radio or not, you know what it is and you want to be involved. You want to know things about that.

Speaker 1: 44:15

So I have an intersting day job. My friends have intersting day jobs. Yeah, I got friends who are waiters and baristas at Starbucks. But I got people who are amazing talents, like my podcast. I interviewed a band called the Dirty Dotties and the reason I brought them in is because, hey, their music is great. But two, they all have amazing intersting. They got a lab coat white lab coat, actual, literal, legit scientists that place trumpet in their band. Three of the people in the four of the people in the band are all music teachers and they teach at different places. One teaches at home, one teaches theory, one teaches in a public school, the other teaches in a conservatory All different environments of teaching music in different environments. One of the other members is a musical therapist. Oh, what's a musical therapist? She goes into a hospital when somebody is getting surgery and she plays her guitar.

Speaker 1: 44:59

Instead of dosing the kids and putting them under. She plays her guitar to control the rhythm of their heartbeat per minute. That's fucking voodoo and it's a scientific class at a university. It's insane. I'm talking to people like that. I have a friend for the band War on Women who does data compression, where she works with astrophysicists to take this billions of billions of terabytes of data information about the universe and condense it down into a thumb drive Like just amazing people who do amazingly talented things, but they have to do something else and because they're smart, they have these great, interesting jobs.

Speaker 2: 45:44

So you interview them. So how do you? Is it mostly just friends? Like, how do you pick your guests for the show? Is it a certain type?

Speaker 1: 45:53

I find somebody interesting and I bring them on, like most recently my buddy Justin Slego, back in Baltimore, who's the morning show at the Heritage Rock Station, 98 Rock. He's a stand-up comedian who's a radio disjockey who went into the stand-up condom. He's an amazing stand-up comedian that went to LA, got TV-thanked and then came back to Baltimore to host the morning show. So we talked about that dichotomy of working in radio from LA doing remotes in his business. A friend of mine, sarah K Gadot she runs a mental health facility with her husband, who's a psychiatrist. So it's just when I find somebody that has an interesting story to tell that I want to share with other people, especially a job that we haven't talked about before, I want to bring them on and I've been fortunate because, like I said, I've been interviewing people for a long time. I write for a newspaper. My newspaper job has gotten me a lot of really good high-profile interviews. Like I said, I got to interview Lewis Black from the Daily Show. We got to talk about his Jewish heritage in the middle of the battle of Ukraine and Russia and I'll get to talk to him about how he started in TV.

Speaker 1: 46:58

Jessica Kirsten, who's an amazing stand-up comedian we got to talk about her start doing clean comedy at Jewish places, when she is a lesbian, when she's hated by the people that she's performing comedy for, and she has to know that if I want to make money doing comedy, I have to go into the synagogue and tell jokes and not tell them that I'm a lesbian. We also talked about her eating disorder, which is a huge, huge point in her life that nobody else talks about. Eating disorders affects so many people. I have an eating disorder. I want to talk to mental health professionals because I live with mental health issues.

Speaker 1: 47:36

I want to bring the conversations that we're not having to the forefront and let people listen to them, whether it's how hard you have to work during the day and how much effort you have to put in things at night. I talked to Chris Tru, who opens and runs a comedy club in New Orleans, and talking about that, what does it take to go in and open a comedy club? Same thing with Jenny Stesson, who runs the Idiot Box Comedy Club in Greensboro, north Carolina. How these people survived the pandemic, owning a business that was already a fledging business, just because this industry is not a money-making industry. Comedy that is, podcasting, also not a money-making industry, but talking to these people and telling the stories of people who are unheard and the things that have jobs that we just don't even think about, what the efforts that go into these things are.

Speaker 2: 48:23

Yeah, it sounds amazing. I love it and I've listened to a few episodes and I just like the concept. I love that it's different. There's a lot of podcasts out there that are somewhat similar.

Speaker 1: 48:33

You get your music podcast, they go over records or whatever it seems very, or a couple of white dudes who call themselves comedians sitting around arguing why they should be allowed to say the N word on stage. Yeah, we've got a dime a dozen for all of those.

Speaker 2: 48:47

Yeah, so I love podcasts that are different, that think out the box, not the everyday podcast.

Speaker 1: 48:54

So I I'm not saying that because that's what was the impetus for that is because I did not have a podcast earlier, because I didn't want to just be another white dude with a Podcast who's a comedian. I needed to find a topic. That was one and, to be honest, when it comes to a lot of it, the topic it's more about the person. There is the top. The topic is just there to get us, to tell the audience who these people are yeah, the real story.

Speaker 1: 49:15

Yeah, and because when I get like some of these big interviews with PR people that contact me, I would like you know Kirsten's a great example. Her PR people like oh well, jessica doesn't have a day job, so she's not perfect for the podcast. Like comedy is her day job. Let's talk about how she as a mother and a per LGBTQ person lives her life. Like the biggest part of Clip from my podcast is how she was for daytime doing daytime talk show warm-up for Bethany Frankel and and how it was dealing with that woman in her and the unfortunateness having to deal with Bethany Frankel and her life has been the biggest clip of any my podcast. Because people want to hear that celebrity gossip. But also that's a real life story right there where she was Verbally harassed by her employer and she was like fuck you, I'm out of here. I rather Live in the gutter than ever work with you again. Yeah, because and that's a real, true thing that we were never gonna ever hear a story of yeah, I didn't bring that up to talk to her about.

Speaker 2: 50:15

Yeah, all right, next song. We got two songs left, you ready.

Speaker 1: 50:20

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 50:30

Hey, hey, mama, rock and roll will never die. If you can play your face in your eyes, you'll make a million dollars. Yeah, todd Snyder's Seattle crowd. Rock and roll will never die.

Speaker 1: 50:44

If you get played in your face in your eyes you'll make a million dollars. Yeah, todd Snyder's Seattle grunge rock blues. This is another artist, just like the refreshments of the Roger Klein the pacemaker's, where I knew no, I didn't know a single person that I've ever heard of them. I went for decades listen to music and never met another fan. The way I discovered him. Again, these are all like teenage years stuff, like I'm sure there's like a like a 13 to 18 year window where everybody discovers their musical loves. I'm sure you're noticing, and there's like a window.

Speaker 2: 51:16

Yeah, I love it. I love it. No, I love it.

Speaker 1: 51:19

Oh, it's the same thing with like Saturday night live. Everyone thinks the best cast of Saturday night was whoever was the cast was when they were 13. Yeah, same thing when it comes to like music. You all love the music that you love from like age 13 to 18 is when you discover, but I was probably about 16. I want to say 15, 16 and I was a Boy Scout and we were.

Speaker 1: 51:41

There's a very famous A Boy Scout camp called film on it's in Simeron, new Mexico, and this is where they shot the movie lonesome dove. That's the extent of celebrity of this place. If you don't know what those two things are, then you don't know what this camp is and that's fine. But the uh, I was out there, you know. It's a uh, two week hike adventure out in the middle of the desert of New Mexico and the counselors at this camp, and this camp still stands, film on Scout Ranch. It's still there. It's a working ranch. Uh, they insist.

Speaker 1: 52:14

Every state, like, every night, you go to like different stations, like you hike to different camp outposts and almost all of the outposts with except from like one or two, are all staffed and all the staff has to every night, do some kind of like Musical performance. That's kind of what they lean into. That's kind of their, their. Their gimmick is that every night you have some kind of party For for the campers around the campfire and you know telling stories, doing sketches, skits, but predominantly they want people playing music. And I'm at the ranch one night and whole night of music. You know these counselors playing and we're joining in this, that whatever.

Speaker 1: 52:48

And this guy just plays the song that you just started Seattle grunge rock blues. And I'm hearing the song and it's a comedy song about a band from Georgia that gets the bright idea in the 90s to go to Seattle, grow out their hair and become a grunge band. But they're going to have a gimmick and the gimmick is they're the only grunge band that doesn't play a note. And then the record labels come to see them because they're a band that always goes out and books on shows and just stands on stage and fuses the plays. And these record labels come to see them and again it's goes back to that narrative troubadour style that this guy, todd Snyder, has that I love.

Speaker 1: 53:21

Again, original music of like just crazy americana, southern rock, country, mixed with folk and blues and hippie shit and amazing. I love his stuff and that just this funny hysterical song from his first record, songs from the daily planet, where he's just like telling the story of a grunge band that didn't want to play and they go. Well, we don't know if we can sell records that don't have music and goes tell them we're from Seattle, like it's this satirical bite into the corporate world of music and grunge rock at the time and I love it. And you know they get hooked on drugs and they go on MTV on plug and refuse to play.

Speaker 2: 54:00

You know they film music video and there's no music, it's just them smashing their instruments.

Speaker 1: 54:05

So I heard you have this obsession with Converse Shoes.

Speaker 2: 54:08

What's your, what's your favorite Converse Shoes? Well, I I hadn't finished.

Speaker 1: 54:12

Let me finish on that and we'll get the Converse Shoes things because I met the bass player from the band at that scout camp. He plays the song and I walk up to a master's and I'm like I feel like I've heard that song. It's hysterical, I love it. What is it? He goes, it's my friend Todd song Like this dude just named Joe working at a ranch, at a cattle ranch, and he's like it's my, but I play bass on the record. You should check it out and I write it down. I go when I go back to my record and tape traders and I buy this CD Sound on her and I and I fell in love with his music. And it's just because the bass player didn't have a day job and worked at a scout camp For a summer and influenced me to be one of his biggest fans.

Speaker 1: 54:54

I still also have never gotten to see him live in concert because every time he comes around I don't get to be able to go because of this that whatever, I even had tickets and had to give him away to somebody else.

Speaker 1: 55:03

Oh no, yeah, it's so sad. I love his music and I don't know how much longer he's gonna be around, but I have to get out there and see him like his, his Austin City limits, very like this just teenage kid, practically like 19 year old kid, playing Austin City limits. You can just see he's probably gonna be growing up like in the as a kid being traveled around the country for this. That whatever is it kid and growing up They've been playing one of the biggest musical venues at the time. It's just you can see the joy in his, in his eyes, if you can find the Austin City limits with Todd Snyder.

Speaker 1: 55:32

But yes, to go back to the comfort shoes, only shoes I wear, that's basically it. They are just comfortable. I feel like I could run faster and jump higher in them, despite the fact that I can't run nor jump anymore. So I Conshoes and I am a. I love the punk rock lifestyle. They're back in fashion trend now and I don't care that they were ever in fact in trend or out of trend doesn't matter to me. I'll wear them every day.

Speaker 2: 55:56

Yeah, I do too. I wore them last night. They gave me a blister, but I'm still okay with that.

Speaker 1: 56:02

I mean, you know what they're better with dr Scholl's insults? Let's just be out, All right? I? Have been, so you need to dr Scholl's insult.

Speaker 2: 56:09

So I'm gonna play your last song. Do you want to pick, or do you want me to pick?

Speaker 1: 56:14

Uh, I don't know the list I gave you. You pick, surprise me and I'll. I'll see which. I'll go through the category of stories and anecdotes in my brain and come out with whatever one that you play.

Speaker 2: 56:32

Okay, wouldn't it be nice if we were older than we would have to? Hey, some Beach Boys.

Speaker 1: 56:42

Yeah, I'm also looking at the list of of of uh notes that I Made for filling out your forms and I don't remember putting the Beach Boys on it. But here is that good Beach Boys story. I think I know what what story was in my brain when I wrote this down. I've seen the Beach Boys like eight times. I don't love them. I like them. They're great, they're wonderful, amazing talent.

Speaker 1: 57:06

But the reason I've seen them so many times is because I worked at uh oldie station and we would broadcast live from Beach Boys concerts every summer. So I got to see them all the time because we'd be outside like, hey, we're big 100.3. We're at Wolf's Rap for the Beach Boys concert. Come on Say hi, here we go, here's another Beach Boys song, right. And so I got to see them so many times.

Speaker 1: 57:26

And I know my two best friends and I have seen them twice together my best friend, ryan Moses, so I talked about who I saw it, you know, went to Philadelphia with, with his band, our other friend, tony X, and when we were younger we saw them like real young guys, like probably 18, 19. About tickets, we're gonna see them, we're walking to the venue. Guys like, hey, tickets for sale. Tickets for sale. I'll trade tickets for weed. Because he literally looked at the two, three, 19.0 kids walking by themselves To a Beach Boys concert. He's like, yeah, if there's anyone who has weed, is it going to be the old guys, it's going to be these three kids right here. And he was right. But we didn't need a ticket so we weren't giving up the weed.

Speaker 1: 58:06

But we went and see him a couple years later again, as friends that we do, because that's one of the things that we, you know, like 4th of July and and Beach Boys are the things that we kind of. And playing the me first in the gimme, gimme version of country roads, those are like our three things that we like. Bonds us, you know, that's our bonding, crying iron arm drunk Well, I love you guys moments. And we're going to see the Beach Boys in Baltimore and in there's this chain of restaurants called Dix last resort or Dix last in or whatever it is, and their whole gimmick is their assholes to you, they do you like shit, they make funny view, their harass you. So we go into that spot to get a beer before we go see the Beach Boys with John Stamos Whoa house.

Speaker 1: 58:52

Nice, hot looking guy, I never gotten to see Brian Wilson, but I've seen John Stamos with the Beach Boys. So we go in there for a beer. I know the gimmick of this bar. I didn't realize that my two friends did not know the gimmick of this place. We just went there, order a beer and a water. You know two beers and a water or whatever it is. My friends are standing there. The bartender goes oh, you want a water? Picks up the wand and sprays me with water from the wand.

Speaker 1: 59:16

And my friend goes what the fuck takes his beer, throws it, smashes it in the face of the bartender, jumps over the bar and then just starts beating the shit End of this bartender. We had to pull him off, drag him out and get him. He's like fuck you, come on, dude, I'll fuck you want to throw water ass, I'll throw this all motherfucking day. As we're dragging him out, I'm like dude, what are you doing? He's like the ass will spray you with water. I'm like, yeah, that's their gimmick, their ass holes. He's like why would anybody want to go here? I was like I thought you know, it's like we're good at roasting there, trying to roast, I figure we went in there, we'll roast them back. I didn't realize you're gonna beat the shit out of the guy. And, by the way, my friend is like five foot two and he just hopped over the bar like an olympic athlete and just beat the crap out of this guy and we just left.

Speaker 1: 1:00:06

I went to the beach boys concert and saw john stanos and if that bartender ever found out he got there's no way he. If he's listening to this podcast right now. Just remember, dude, you got your ass kicked by a beach boys fan who is five foot two inches tall. So maybe you're not the tough guy that you think you are working at dick's last resort.

Speaker 2: 1:00:30

I've been to that place in vegas and it's, it's a lot. It's a lot, it's a lot of fun that that guy was like. Obviously we had a table of like 13 people and they was roasting everybody, but he kept on trying to kiss me like the whole entire time. So it's getting to be like a little bit too much. Like, oh, look over here and then kiss me on the cheek. He was trying to kiss me on the lips but it was like k dude, like every time you come to this table You're trying to kiss me like it's, it's, yeah, I get your stick, but it's also starting to like feel like a little bit like crossing the line, a little bit too much Like this went for like a fun interaction, uh, to sexual harassment very quickly.

Speaker 1: 1:01:11

Yeah, just like my event went from, you know, fun and game and beers to physical assaults.

Speaker 2: 1:01:21

So where can we find you, stalk, you, hunt you down on the internet?

Speaker 1: 1:01:26

All the social medias. That's out there, it's at dead air. Denis d e a d a I r d e m n I s dead air, denis. Think about it. Dennis Does never stop talking. There is no dead air in his life. On the instagram, the twitter, the threads, the, the, the, the tick tock, you know, I put my stand-up clips on there, I put clips from the podcast on there and, of course, the podcast you can find everywhere. Podcasts are potted, it's called. So what do you really do? Just think of the name of you know, when you ever meet someone who says, oh, yeah, I'm an actor, oh, you're an actor. So what do you really do? Wait tables, like that's where the yeah, the name came from. Was that awesome. What do you really do, though? Like your Comedy stick and everything that you're doing? Yet little desk sounds so fun, but what are you really doing? I'm really doing is paying my bills of comedy. Yeah, not a lot of bills, but I'm paying some.

Speaker 2: 1:02:20

Well, I'm so much fun with you today, denis, thank you so much, but before I let you go, I would love some words of wisdom from you words of wisdom.

Speaker 1: 1:02:29

I was given these words of wisdom by one of my radio Icons, one of the people I got to work at work with, and a guy named albie d who's an amazingly smart guy in the business, and One of the things he said is if you oh, if you ever want to be considered for a job, do that job before anyone gives it to you. And I've always tried to take that into my entire life, like, look, I want somebody to pay me to be a podcaster, so I created a podcast. You know I wanted to be a paid interviewer, so I did interviews. You know I wanted to be a comedian, so I became a comedian. So anything you want to do in your life, just go do it. Find out how to, how to do it and just start doing. Don't make plans, don't talk about oh, I'm one day, this, that whatever today is that day, do it right now. And if you want to do it, just do it. Don't let's, don't wait for someone to give you permission to do it.

Speaker 2: 1:03:26

That's great words of wisdom and I appreciate you saying that because I tell you you have to just go and do it Right, especially if you want to get into the industry that we're both in you, just yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:03:37

Nike, that's shut up. Just do it just.

Speaker 2: 1:03:41

Thank you so much for joining me today. On music junkie, like follow and subscribe Dennis, I'll have you all list, all his socials, so you can definitely, you know, send him dick pics. I don't know, I don't know if he's really into dick pics, but hey you know it sent me all the body part pics.

Speaker 1: 1:03:55

It's fine, I'll sort through them. I'll show them to my friends. Why not? Let's have a good old naked time on the, on the dick pits and the, the tit pics and the other pics.

Speaker 2: 1:04:04

That's right, awesome. Thank you so much again. My pleasure.